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#1 Oct 25 2006 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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the link - http://eqforums.station.sony.com/eq/board/message?board.id=Veterans&message.id=314249

From sony's board

I have received word that corrections for participating in the exploit for gaining AA points that caused the emergency update on October 17th will be happening here very shortly. What is going to happen is that anyone who participated in the exploit will be 'selectively corrected' and will be losing ALL AA points they earned on the day(s) they participated in the exploit. 'Selectively corrected' meaning this will not affect those who did not participate in the exploit.

If for instance someone participated in the exploit on Monday and gained 500 AA points, skipped doing so on Tuesday and just leveled AA normally receiving 10 AA points, then exploited again on Wednesday gaining another 700 AA points, they will lose the 1200 points they gained through the exploit and be refunded the 10 they earned legitimately on Tuesday. The same will occur for any points gained by these folks from the day of the update until the day of the correction happening, they will be refunded the points they legitimately earned and have those points available to respend as they wish.

Any AA points that may have been legitimately earned on the day they participated in the exploit will unfortunately be lost. Consider this a penalty fine for participating in the exploit.

Feel free to post any questions you may have regarding this situation here, and we will try to answer everything we can. Please keep your posted questions constructive and on the topic so we do not miss any good, valid questions. If you wish to discuss this issue further then just asking questions about what is happening, please start another thread to do so.

Kytherea ~~wielding a giant hammer & a hairless War Hamster~~

"I'm late, I'm late...."
#2 Oct 26 2006 at 3:05 AM Rating: Good
I have a hard time believing people wouldn't know that they wouldn't be able to keep all those aa's. Seriously. Lucky they aren't just doing a complete rollback on people who participated.
#3 Oct 26 2006 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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imagine they'd "reset" the AA's to zero? now that would be fun, hihi
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#4 Oct 26 2006 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
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Wish I had known about the exploit before it was fixed, I would have made a fortune selling the exploiters bonechips at 50 plat a pop.
#5 Oct 26 2006 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
they should take 100% of thier aa's away for doing it. if anyone knows of an obivous cheat like 500 aa for bonechip turn ins then they should have just contacterd a GM and got the aa's back to where they should be, anyone who just kept going with the aa's without telling the GM's shouls loose all aa's not only the cheated ones. but the other ones as a punishment. or ban the accounts for a month.

the main reason i say punish them harder as they could have caused a game rollback on all of us non cheaters. they didn't care about the rest of us. so ***** them over.
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#6 Oct 26 2006 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Easy IT, you yourself admit to buying plat and using WinEQ. Both of which are violations of the EULA, did you contact a GM? I think what they did was dumb, but not so fast to jump on the take everything away from them band wagon. If they took such drastic measures as "I'll show you, you're banned for a month" a month later they'd be saying "hey, weren't you supposed to come back and pay me money still? where'd you go?"
#7 Oct 26 2006 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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the main reason i say punish them harder as they could have caused a game rollback on all of us non cheaters. they didn't care about the rest of us. so ***** them over.

crack is bad, mkay?
#8 Oct 26 2006 at 11:40 PM Rating: Decent
hows is useing wineq a bad thing it just helps reduce windows. EQ lets us have windows . unless wineq has other features i dodn't know about. maby the pip or vidoe recording. i do remember on the soe forums they said it was not a macro or unattended exp program . they don't care about wineq.

yes the buying was bad. you read my posts. then you know how bad i felt about that back then. and still do.

eq now with the new expansion i have 2 charcters i have not twinked. and they lvl well now in 20's the drops and plat from new zones make the low end game worth playing. it's not a **** i died again every few minutes because of ****** gear and only having 100 pp at lvl 10.

so now if i was to start on a new server. i wouldn't ever think about buying plat. the new expansion woks for it's self.

now me and others buying plat all it does is help up lvl with better equipment. but having all those AA's will also lvl faster i guess. and i guess others having these things don't really hurt our game play. maby it helps us we get to play with well twinked and cheated AA skills that will help in group and raid playing. so forget what i said cheat buy steal do what ever you can to be better then the others who worked hard at it. so i and all theses others can group with you and lvl our own characters faster.

hell with that. just go buy accounts, why lvl at all.
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6x Asheron's call lvl 40-99 one lvl 132 (FAV GAME ALL TIME)
2 EQ 2
3 Horizons
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#9 Oct 27 2006 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
I think the characters should have been rolled back but nothing more then that. Its as much the fault of Sony for letting them do it imho as it is for them doing it. Sure they should have guessed it would have been wrong and they prolly wouldnt get to keep the AAs but some fault of Sony for allowing the bug has to be there for them to be able to do it at all. Its not like they were going all but LD to dupe things here, they were using a quest in the game that was broken.
#10 Oct 27 2006 at 5:26 AM Rating: Decent
IT I want to offer my services to you. you said
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yes the buying was bad. you read my posts. then you know how bad i felt about that back then. and still do.
Now how I can help is this. You give me the amount of plat you bought plus a 50% naughty player penalty then you can feel better. That way you are back to where you started, been punished and helped a very deserving player all at the same time. :))
#11 Oct 27 2006 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
FUNNY

i was grumpy last night.

oh yes any military out there ever heard of IT commander or is it LT commander
LT as in luitenant commander "misspelled yes i know" i hate fonts that take an "L" oe "l" and make it look like and "I"

your right is is 50% soe's falt too. thats why i gave up the punishment idea, let the cheaters cheat. soe can fix them when they can as long as they don't affect us. like a few yrs ago with a 3 or 5 day roll back . i was pissed lost 8 lvl's i had that week off from work and played alot. i quit for a while after that. soe make $60 amonth off me with 4 accounts active. and your right they don't want to loose money by baning and risk thenm not returning
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1x darkfall "worse game ever"
8x EQ 1 accounts char's lvl 30-52 7 years (3 accounts active)2nd fav
6x Asheron's call lvl 40-99 one lvl 132 (FAV GAME ALL TIME)
2 EQ 2
3 Horizons
3 WOW
3 DAOC
1 D&D online
4 FFXI
2 vanguard
4 anarchy
2 SWG
1 lineage 2
2 AOC
1 LOTRO
1 City of H / V
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#12 Oct 27 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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ltcommander wrote:
oh yes any military out there ever heard of IT commander or is it LT commander. LT as in luitenant commander "misspelled yes i know" i hate fonts that take an "L" oe "l" and make it look like and "I"

Wow.. I am hoping to make "Lieutenant Commander" next week.. as that's the rank above Knight-Champion.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/ranks.html

Smart world, ain't it?

Edited, Oct 27th 2006 at 1:48pm PDT by Felicite
#13 Oct 27 2006 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
ltcommander- Smiley: oyvey
#14 Oct 28 2006 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
lol i said i was grumpy. . happy now i have new graphic card 512mb. cheap one. agp as pci express is the ew thing. so now i'm even happier as i have a $1300 check coming from walmart retierment i can buy a new computer with. as i always upgrade every yr.
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To play well with others is to NOT GET THEM KILLED

5x eve online (Currently playing 2 accounts)
1x darkfall "worse game ever"
8x EQ 1 accounts char's lvl 30-52 7 years (3 accounts active)2nd fav
6x Asheron's call lvl 40-99 one lvl 132 (FAV GAME ALL TIME)
2 EQ 2
3 Horizons
3 WOW
3 DAOC
1 D&D online
4 FFXI
2 vanguard
4 anarchy
2 SWG
1 lineage 2
2 AOC
1 LOTRO
1 City of H / V
beta's AC2,lotro,eq2,aoc, lineage 2, darkfall, crimecraft, fallen earth, aion, Jade Dynasty
#15 Oct 28 2006 at 10:10 PM Rating: Decent
ltcommander wrote:
now me and others buying plat all it does is help up lvl with better equipment. but having all those AA's will also lvl faster i guess. and i guess others having these things don't really hurt our game play.


Since plat buying became popular the market has been screwed up hardcore. Mainly because of plat buyers low to mid level decent gear is off the charts expensive compared to what it used to be (talking PRE TSS), Making it impossible for non-plat buyers to compete gear wise. So yes plat buying has affected people. My question is how did people getting tons of AAs affect you?

And in reality good or bad Wineq is against the EULA. There used to be a thread about it over at EQ live.

I think SOE for once did a good job handling this one they fixed it as if it never happened (instead of massive rollbacks). Only suggestion i would make to them is to put a "Cheater" flag on thier EQ character profile.
#16 Oct 29 2006 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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And in reality good or bad Wineq is against the EULA. There used to be a thread about it over at EQ live.


Not that it really matters, but I don't think WinEQ is against the EULA. It USED to be, but they said they don't care anymore once they decided to add their own windowing feature. Are you sure you're not thinking about MQ?

EDIT: Ok, maybe I was hasty. Just checked the EQ forums and... there seems to be no consensus. The mods over there are ****'s about their boards and will lock/delete threads that talk about any kind of unallowed 3rd party software (a la macroquest or showeq), but there are quite a few threads about WinEQ. And of course there are people fighting back and forth about wether WinEQ breaks the EULA. I only see 1 semi-official response, saying it's against the EULA, but that's from a mod, not a dev or CS person, so I take that with a grain of salt. So, in the end, I don't know. *SHRUG*

Edited, Oct 29th 2006 at 8:13am PST by Jiggidyjay
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