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#1 Oct 22 2006 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
What class do you Recremend to solo with?
#2 Oct 23 2006 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
Necro - only choice. No other answer.
#3 Oct 24 2006 at 1:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes there is.

Beastlord.

Especially at higher levels.
#4 Oct 24 2006 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually any pet class can solo pretty well ....as can a druid in kiting .;)


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#5 Oct 24 2006 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Bards are quite efficient soloers. They can solo from 1 to 70 if you know what you are doing. Very difficult, but very fun.
#6 Oct 31 2006 at 7:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Bards are quite efficient soloers. They can solo from 1 to 70 if you know what you are doing.

Actually from 1 to 75, though I 'gimped' my Cleric from 71 to 75 with my Bard pulling 99% of the weight.
#7 Nov 01 2006 at 9:27 AM Rating: Default
the best class by far.. and I dont care what anyone tells you they are lying..

the best class to play is the one you like


no other will do
#8 Nov 03 2006 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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the best class by far.. and I dont care what anyone tells you they are lying..

the best class to play is the one you like


no other will do

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#9 Nov 07 2006 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Whatever class you feel the most comfortable with is the best one to solo with. I personally love the berserker class and solo with him, but it all depends on what you're good at.
#10 Nov 13 2006 at 6:07 AM Rating: Decent
I would like to say that all classes can solo to lvl 50...

now at the lvl 50+ is when the game does it's real 1st break in classes...

that is when each class's weakness and str come to light.. the 1st time... the classes break 2 or 3 times in the game and then come back together somewhat later on...

please note I have played EQ for almost 5 years now... and I have 1 of every class to at least lvl 65.. this means nothing really... i dont know everything not saying that.. i'm just saying this from my own exp

here are the playing styles of each class...

if you like to Blow crap up.. with one or 2 really big nukes.. then your a mage.. mages can solo.. and are pretty good at it... but they are more of a group toon to Bring the Final blow to any more.. pet is really good when buffed and can hold his own against any mob that is with is reasonable close to the same lvl... the only real str of a mage is his pet... with out his pet a mage cant do anything.. really the pet is a large part of the class.,.. it is the mage;s greatest str and his greatest weakness.. mages kill things with nukes 1 or 2 BIG KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS

if you are more of the solo type player.. you are a necro... necro I think..i know.. are one of the most powerful classes in the game... they lvl really fast. can can split almost any mob and are really good farmers.. and unlike the mage,. the necro pet is no more than a long term mutli mob dot... a speed bump if you will... but at higher lvls the necro pet can out tank or tie mage pets.. I have seen it done.. and for those of you that done think so.. find a lvl 75 mage.. and a lvl 75 necro.. no pet toys.. no buffs let them go at it.. the necro let wins about 60% of the time. anyway... when things go bad.. the necro has this great ability called... FD.. that no other solo class gets. this is what i think breaks the necro away from all others.. and makes it the best solo class imo only...necros kill things with what is called ( root rot ) you root pull the mob away from spawn point root him and dot him and sit and watch... or they snare and run away dot and kit.....necros can solo mobs that are 10 + lvls above them as long as they are snareable.. necros = very very very very high DPS imo the necro dps is the highest in game... BAR NONE

and yes mage's and wiz I mean more so than you... in a raid.. do a parse.. necros will be at the top of the list. if not on top of the list.. the longer the fight the more DPS a necro does.. mages and wiz dps = to the amount of mana they have.. as I said 2 or 3 good nukes and wait for mana..

beast... well.. I have one lvl 64... he is but all that great at soloing lvl 65 to 70 lvl mobs.. bst biggist str is the pet.. the pet makes up for alot on bst.. bst pets proc a stun that helps keep hate off the beast lord while he slows and heals his pet or handles whatever else came with his pull... the thing about bst is they have some really nice buffs and they can Slow most mobs so they can handle them.. they can heal ... and they are very good dps

at very high ends monks can solo... I have a monk with 11k hp.. and he can solo.. alittle, depends on the zone and the mobs...i dont think monks should be thought of as solo'rs

shammys... shammys are really good solo'ers as well.. depends on gear.. the lower lvl cannie spells suck imo so again this is a class heave dependant on mana.. they have the BEST slows in game and can dot the hell out of mobs.. heal and have a pet...to help keep mob off the player.. pull with slow.. send pet root dot get away... shammys shine more so in groups IMO

chantys... chantys can solo as well... I do alot of charm xping with my chanter, with a GOOD charmed pet a chanter can pretty much own a zone..but again this is a class like the mage without a pet they are dead as a door nail..chanters IMO are better in the group settings

SK.. these are necro/ tanks want to be's.. and to about lvl 54 they solo really really well... snare fear tanking for sk's and they can get xp while LFG.. the biggest problem with SK's is they are a plate classes that never really will have more than 1900 AC without raid lvl gear.. which sucks. my lvl 66 sk has spell mission gear / POF gear and god gear.. he is alittle over 10k hp.. and 1900 ac.. he can tank in wos as long as the mobs is slowed and the healer is on point... the great thing about SK's is they can give or take hate at any time they want, now if your a raiding SK... you will be the best dang tank in the game... as long as your not head to head with raid lvl mobs say in COA or such... but you will lead the way.. 90% of the mobs are going to be on you like hair on a bear... but its ok.. your ac will be 3k+ you will be the man.. sk after the midlvl game are group toons mostly...

this pretty much covers it...

mostly as in all classes in EQ it really depends on your playing style and what you plan on doing later in the game...

the true solo'ers are .. mages / Necros / chanters to a point..

this doesnt mean that others cant... just means the others are not as good as the above are

Edited, Nov 13th 2006 at 6:14am PST by bruur
#12 Nov 15 2006 at 7:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Great post bruur!

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I have soloed just about every class up to about 50, and I agree that from there on it becomes more difficult. At this point, I have a Rogue, Paladin and Mage above 50 which a trade off playing. Basically which ever class or setting provides you enjoyment, that's what is best for you at the time. I also have a 50+ cleric, but that has been more grouping, so I really can't speak to that.

If your looking for an easy game with minimum downtime, then the basic four would be best (necro, mage, druid, beast), otherwise your solo experience will be a challenge. With the med/heal change from the last expansion, downtime has been reduced, but the actual fights will still be a challenge. A melee will have to have the ability to take the face-to-face punishment of the combat, no matter what. PoK buffs will become a necessity as well, but hey, it's a rush when you have a named murkglider down to 30% and you see Virt begin to flash!
#13 Nov 22 2006 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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You neglected to mention the Druid
#14 Nov 25 2006 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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What class do you Recremend to solo with?


You can solo with anything. Easiest class to solo with is the Necromancer. They have the second or third best pet in the game, and can FD should a fight go against them. After necros, probably the Beastlord. They have a pet that rivals the Necromancer's, heal spells, the third best slows and haste spells, plus some decent DD spells and melee. Magician might also be a good choice. They are the second most powerful nukers and hands-down the best pet class in the game. Be warned, though, a Magician is a pure-caster who cannot FD, and is consequently extremely vulnerable. A Druid is a good choice, too. Although their pets are a cruel joke, they can snare and they have the third best nukes in the game.

Hardest class to solo with is the Enchanter. While a charmed mob could be more powerful than any summoned pet, there is always the risk of the charm breaking, even with Total Domination (an AA that makes the Enchanters' charms harder to break). Plus Enchanters cannot heal themselves or FD, and their defenses are a joke. Their nukes and DoTs are weak, also, but they do have the second best slows in the game, as well as debuffs. They have the best haste spells, also, but hasting a charmed mob is risky, since it will retain whatever buffs you give it, even if the charm breaks. With patience and care, you probably could learn to solo the Enchanter, but they remain the most group dependent of all classes.
#15 Nov 26 2006 at 6:57 AM Rating: Decent
I will have to agree with almost every post here you can Solo with just about every class but need to find one that fits you and your playing style....Me i am a wizard at heart and have gone solo for almost the entire 7 years i have played. Quad kiting is a Great thing for me and keeps me on my toes but as with any class you play you need to get a feel for the soloing when you are a noob and with each lvl you go up you will get new spells and or Wepons to help change your Stratagy up a lil bit. So play a few of the classes that you feel comfortable with and see which on you like the most and go from there
#16 Dec 14 2006 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
[b]I soloed my ranger from level 1 to 51. When LDoN came out I did about 50 missions, then got completely EP flagged (the hard way, no shortcuts and no 86s)for all Elemental Planes by level 64. Now I am soloing again and am 68 with a little OVER 240 AAs. All the other classes need help (either PCs or pets) but []the ranger and the druid [/] are the FIRST AND ONLY TRUE SOLO ARTISTS in the game.
#17 Dec 17 2006 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
I must agree with Draavin.. my ranger's been soloed all his life. Buidhe is currently 71 with only 143 AAs, but soloing well in The Steppes/Iceclad and exploring pretty much wherever he wants to. (I'm a retiree from two previous guilds and currently an officer in Prophetic Alliance FV.. I group too.)

I've always found it funny that most threads like this begin with no mention of rangers; our existance doesn't occur to non-rangers.. since we're probably not the best at ANY ONE THING, we just don't come to mind.

Rangers do, however, get asked into groups, you bet we do. Whether for DPS, CC, scouting, pulling, kiting, tracking, off-tanking, healing (you'd be surprised) or saving the casters' lives when the tank falls, rangers fill the bilet.

No, we don't have a mystical, magical pet... but we do have very good snares and roots, our DoTs are satisfactory, our DDs deliver good damage, with Innate Camouflage we're awfully hard to detect most places, and we're pretty much self-healing.

Ask yourself just who it is you know who soloes without a pet.

Whereas several other classes can solo well in particular places and under the right circumstances, my vote for the absolute, hands-down best soloist over all of Norrath goes to the very versatile and oft overlooked ranger.
#18 Dec 25 2006 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
The greatest soloing class is the necromancer. With the fear-kiting they are nearly unbeatable
#19 Dec 26 2006 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Necromancer.

There is no need to attach "if you know what you are doing", "especially in X situation" to this answer.
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I can't edit my post but I had to get this in.


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Ask yourself just who it is you know who soloes without a pet.


Necromancer.


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All the other classes need help (either PCs or pets)


Not a Necromancer.

Look, it can be debated for centuries. I mean, I know Rogues and Warriors that solo for xp at level 70 and higher. Anybody can do it. Many classes do it well. Some classes better than others. Some need gear, some need skill and others luck.

All you Rangers, Druids, Beastlords, Bards and such if you could jump into the game with a Necromancer at the same level and gear as your main and play that Necromancer with the same skill you took years to develop with your main it would blow your mind.

The very first reply to this thread closed it out perfectly.
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#21 Dec 28 2006 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
Any, and i mean any class can solo with good gear, if you dont have good gear, go with any class that has pets and crowd control.
#22 Dec 28 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
Also as far as Necros doing the most damage, hence getting more exp, im not so sure.

The best soloer i have currently seen was a twinked cleric in city of mist, he had a hammer had a 350 damage undead proc, that with a haste potion and his regular cleric nukes he could *easily* solo yellow/red con mobs (at same time with root)and took him less then 30 seconds to kill each mob, he was level 44 i believe at the time. He only needed one small heal per fight so with mana potion i dont think he medded too often, a necro could probably kill as fast, but they have far less ac then a cleric and will burn mana much faster on lifetaps or dotting, where as the cleric can just use his uber weapon like he is a zerker.

I suspect this guy was getting exp cap every pull, and it was hot zone so probably dinging faster then just about any other class, id say every 30 min or less.
#23 Jan 04 2007 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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It also depends on what you are wanting to solo and to what end. Each class has its strengths and weaknesses. The only toons I've soloed with extensively and my experiences with them:

Ranger: My ranger didn't have too much trouble soloing a lot of things, but he had a considerable amount of trouble with summoning named mobs. Gear also had a HUGE effect on his ability to solo. Anything that would require a long time to solo would be much more difficult if it were in an indoor zone (meaning Sow might wear off). For simple AA grinding though... very good return. High melee DPS meaning minimal downtime, plus very nice archery bonuses (double damage on targets standing still, bow crits, etc).

Necro: My necro has been able to solo things at an amazing pace, especially since the medding revamp. She also can solo summoning named mobs on occasion, assuming they don't hit too rediculously hard (a la the TSS named). She can solo for regular experience with almost as good a return as with a group and AA experience with better return then with most groups.

Bard: My bard has soloed some pretty cool things. If the mob can be mezzed and doesn't have a DT, it can probably be soloed by a bard. My bard soloed Nezekezena and Phinny for his 1.0 when he was level 56ish (and no, he wasn't twinked all out). He soloed Grimror Plaguebringer (named ogre mob near the entrance to PoD, level 60) when he was still level 53 or so. Of course he doesn't summon and he's pure melee, but he hits hard as hell and you're guaranteed a ton of rat adds. Bards can solo at a scary pace in the 30-60 range with swarm kiting, but after that... it drops to a crawls pace, wether it be regular experience or AA. You can still do it, it just takes a LOT longer.

It takes skill to solo with any class. Effectiveness as a solo class is usually very subjective or very gear dependent. In general, the most effective soloers are those that never need to get hit (bards, necros, druids, wizards, etc). You also have to be able to put out enough damage to kill your target. If you constantly run out of mana or don't have the patience to chant kite a mob as a bard, then it's all a moot point.
#24 Jan 06 2007 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
Almost every class that solos has broad limitations (snarable/rootable, no summons, outdoors etc) and within those limitations that class will shine.
I have known a lot of people from various classes that soloed, some because they liked the challenge, some for something to do while LFG and some in desperation. The happy soloist I have known were necromancers, mages, beastlords, druids, bards, these people would solo because they could do it well and earn decent xp/rewards for thier time. Other classes can solo, but usually don't because it is easier/more effective to get a group.
When cloosing a class to solo with ask yourself what you want to be doing for the next 75 levels - if you enjoy moving around a lot then a kiting class works for you, maybe you want to watch your pet tear mobs apart, beastlord or mage and if you want to occasionally get a few licks in yourself - beastlord.
Necromancer DPS is great, mainly because a necromancer can afford to burn a lot more mana per fight. I have soloed with enchanter, necromancer, shaman and druid and the necromancer was hands down the fastest soloist. With the introduction of the downtime rest system, the others' solo ability has increased quite a bit.
Direchaos, I don't think of a special set of circumstances and twink gear really makes for a real soloing comparison.
#25 Jan 14 2007 at 6:08 AM Rating: Default
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at higher lvls the necro pet can out tank or tie mage pets.. I have seen it done.. and for those of you that done think so.. find a lvl 75 mage.. and a lvl 75 necro.. no pet toys.. no buffs let them go at it.. the necro let wins about 60% of the time.


I am often amused by the diffrent test folks come up with, that they believe prove this or that. To me which pet or class is stronger is less important than which class you like to play. But if you want to compair pets or classes, then you should do it in a way that best reflects the actual strength of what is being compaired. What best reflects the actual strengths is dependent on how you play the game. Since we are talking about soloing I would suggest that each pet be set up to its strongest with only what their owner can provide.

So the mage pet should get pet toys and mage buffs, the necro pet no toys but necro buffs. This is because to me soloing is done by logging in where i want to solo and playing for about a hour. No time to run around PoK looking for buffs and so on.

So to me a shaman pet is weeker than a mage pet, but then a shaman pet for the most part fights mobs that have been slowed. So it doesn't need to be as strong, also its owner can tank more than a mage can, so again it doesn't need to be as strong, furthermore it's owner has better buffs. I think this has a lot to do with why some say the BL is over powered their pet is one of the strongest in the game, and the BL has some of the best buffs, debuffs and spells for soloing, and some ability to tank as well.
#26 Jan 14 2007 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
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I have played EQ for over 7 years and even with dial up 95% + soloed the following;

- 68 mage 100 AA
- 65 necro 40 AA
- 61 monk 40 AA
- 58 druid 30 AA
- 58 wiz 21 AA
- 57 War 21 AA
- 56 Rog 21 AA
- 55 Cleric 21 AA

Most have nice gear that can be farmed by my mage. Given the cost and lack of ability to self gather level 69 / 70 spells solo, most people outside e-bay cannot get such spells solo. I have bought one level 70 spell and hope someday to get my mage to the point I can scribe it........

Mage / Necro / Druid easiest to solo (Necro safest/Druid more fun as Track skill helps you understand all the zone you play in. Druid is the only toon without Veteran rewards, so no exp bonus for druid, however still levels faster than almost all other toons and all levels for my knowledge till level 58.

With Veteran AA Monk solo very easy, and FD and instill doubt make like fun. The same Veterans reward AAs make the War and Rog still hard to level. One key to allow a rog solo is instill doubt and sow or snare item in OT and DL.

Wiz hard for me to solo until run 3 at level 51 fast leveling outdoors (Mid 50s)

Cleric very easy to solo low 50s. Cleric are great with undead, but often hard to get to the undead without agro from the living.

I tend to solo not out of choice but mainly due to frequency of LD due to dial up (Major raids or groups spam tends to knock me out of the game) and to being married to a wonderful lady who I would rather spend may time with in RL than group with online friends in EQ.

Have fun

Byby (Prexus TA rocks)

Edited, Jan 14th 2007 10:16pm by byby
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