I just came back to EQ, AGAIN, to try and fill my spare time as all other MMOs are pretty god-awful and are getting worse.
However, I just can't bring myself to play... I can't decide what class I want to play, if I want to play my mage (44, 3k mana), one of my alts, or make a new character and enjoy gfay/cb/kurns again.
So, I'm throwing myself at the mercy of the forum - name a fun class/race (In your opinion) to play, and I'll play it... This just isn't something I can do on my own for some reason, because every time I attempt to play a new alt or my mage, I start thinking that maybe theres something else I can be doing :(
Also, just out of curiosity, where is the Class/Race guide, and all those other links? It was really nice to have access to each class's forum, spell list, quest, equipment, etc. all from one page.
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If I was starting over I would be tempted to play the new race. The breath weapon they get intruges me they can be all things a human can. So like anything but Shaman/Beastlord/Bezerker. The breath weapon is a quest they get starting at level 5 that you can quest to improve every 5 levels.
Don't expect to have fun in GFay, CB and Kurns anymore. Those zones are all but dead. You'll be lucky to see more then 1 other in those zones at any time. That being said, there are new places to and new things to do that are pretty fun.
The new race, the Drakkin, are ok. There are mixed reviews on their looks. The breathe weapon is an AA ability on a 5 minute reuse. It's a frontal AA DD with a short duration DoT that also lowers the mobs resists a small amount, the resist being lowered depending on what dragon heritage you choose. It's nice as added DPS, especially when soloing, but I don't expect to generally be used quite so much in the higher levels due to the rather large range of the AE.
As to best class... depends on what you want. I hate to just throw it back at you like that, but it does depend on you more then anything. Do you want to melee? Do you want to cast? Maybe a hybrid? Are you more offensive inclined or support inclined? Thanks to the new quests in Crescent Reach it's REALLY easy to gain your first 2 dozen levels. I got my baby Drakkin cleric to 11 in like 3 hours, compared to my first toon, my ranger, who was still level 6 after 2 weeks of 2-3 hours a day back when I started (keep in mind that the game was VERY different back then).
What ever you choose, just go with the flow and don't worry about the grind so much. That's one of the leading reasons for EQ burnout that I've seen. People feel like they have to be 75 to see any decent content, but that's just not true anymore.
The new race, the Drakkin, are ok. There are mixed reviews on their looks. The breathe weapon is an AA ability on a 5 minute reuse. It's a frontal AA DD with a short duration DoT that also lowers the mobs resists a small amount, the resist being lowered depending on what dragon heritage you choose. It's nice as added DPS, especially when soloing, but I don't expect to generally be used quite so much in the higher levels due to the rather large range of the AE.
As to best class... depends on what you want. I hate to just throw it back at you like that, but it does depend on you more then anything. Do you want to melee? Do you want to cast? Maybe a hybrid? Are you more offensive inclined or support inclined? Thanks to the new quests in Crescent Reach it's REALLY easy to gain your first 2 dozen levels. I got my baby Drakkin cleric to 11 in like 3 hours, compared to my first toon, my ranger, who was still level 6 after 2 weeks of 2-3 hours a day back when I started (keep in mind that the game was VERY different back then).
What ever you choose, just go with the flow and don't worry about the grind so much. That's one of the leading reasons for EQ burnout that I've seen. People feel like they have to be 75 to see any decent content, but that's just not true anymore.
Maoukiji wrote:
Also, just out of curiosity, where is the Class/Race guide, and all those other links? It was really nice to have access to each class's forum, spell list, quest, equipment, etc. all from one page.
Over on the left side of this page, under the forum heading is the race/class boards with brief descriptions. I would go to the official SOE/EQ site to read in a bit more detail about classes and races. Also, there are many websites devoted to specific classes there stay current.
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If I were coming back right now, I'd make a Drakkin Monk. Best class I've ever played however, in terms of overall fun and usefulness, was the Ranger.
i'd say a druid drakk , the new lands has a ton of animals to cham pet for ya. plus all the sow, healing snare. dots. i have 3 new ones one on FV just lvl 22 just seeing the server. other 2 on same server dif accounts, plus a ranger drakk too so i can find the quest mobs easier
lvling there is very fast, and pretty safe for first 30 lvls. not sure after . i know my lvl 66 enchater died in next zone after moores. some wierd snake jumped him
lvling there is very fast, and pretty safe for first 30 lvls. not sure after . i know my lvl 66 enchater died in next zone after moores. some wierd snake jumped him
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5x eve online (Currently playing 2 accounts)
1x darkfall "worse game ever"
8x EQ 1 accounts char's lvl 30-52 7 years (3 accounts active)2nd fav
6x Asheron's call lvl 40-99 one lvl 132 (FAV GAME ALL TIME)
2 EQ 2
3 Horizons
3 WOW
3 DAOC
1 D&D online
4 FFXI
2 vanguard
4 anarchy
2 SWG
1 lineage 2
2 AOC
1 LOTRO
1 City of H / V
beta's AC2,lotro,eq2,aoc, lineage 2, darkfall, crimecraft, fallen earth, aion, Jade Dynasty
Id try a new charactor out of the new race. Bunch of quests you can do in that expansion, some of which are good even at low levels.
Hi
Thanks for the replies.
What I'm really looking for is just... Well, anything - I don't want to pick a class myself because I always end up just looking for the fastest leveler, or look too much into what spells they get when... It makes EQ, er, not fun to me.
What I'm really looking for is just... Well, anything - I don't want to pick a class myself because I always end up just looking for the fastest leveler, or look too much into what spells they get when... It makes EQ, er, not fun to me.
Make a Drakkin ranger and never look back!
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Perhaps I am the game's oldest noob, but I only very recently grouped with a berserker for the first time in a small Veksar group (lvls 53-59 or so). He was a Barbarian and he was just pouring the DPS on, making it near impossible for my warrior to hold aggro. If I get the time to roll another toon, I would love to try a Barb berserker. He was having way too much fun. Good luck to you.
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Janadea Volstagg
Realm of Magic
Stromm server
Well, I've had some time to think and I think I want to make a shaman. My only problem is figuring out what race?
I was going to go ogre since they can't be stunned from the front, but how useful is this? I know I want to be one of those "Crazy melee shamans", that jump in after slow/dots instead of root rot, but how often to mobs really stun? And how often does ogre's resist really work?
My second choice is a tie between iksar and frog, just because they both have high ac/agi.
But this leads me to my next question... How much does agi really affect AC? Enough so that I should get agi gear as well as wis gear?
I was going to go ogre since they can't be stunned from the front, but how useful is this? I know I want to be one of those "Crazy melee shamans", that jump in after slow/dots instead of root rot, but how often to mobs really stun? And how often does ogre's resist really work?
My second choice is a tie between iksar and frog, just because they both have high ac/agi.
But this leads me to my next question... How much does agi really affect AC? Enough so that I should get agi gear as well as wis gear?
Ogre's are only immune to stun from the front, but in regards to that I believe it's 100% stun immunity (not sure how spell stuns figure into this).
While you'll more then likely melee quite a bit in the low-mid levels, you probably won't melee too much post 50. I'm sure someone will come in here and dispute with a statement like "I meleed my shaman to 70, you just suck noob!" or something, but you're more valuable for your spells and mana then for your melee skills when you reach that point, at least IMO.
As to AGI>AC... it varies by class and level. For instance, 10 AGI will give a warrior slightly more AC then a ranger of equivalent level and stats. That being said, the conversion isn't really very good even for warriors. I'd probably worry more about mana, HP and raw AC gear then AGI if I were you.
While you'll more then likely melee quite a bit in the low-mid levels, you probably won't melee too much post 50. I'm sure someone will come in here and dispute with a statement like "I meleed my shaman to 70, you just suck noob!" or something, but you're more valuable for your spells and mana then for your melee skills when you reach that point, at least IMO.
As to AGI>AC... it varies by class and level. For instance, 10 AGI will give a warrior slightly more AC then a ranger of equivalent level and stats. That being said, the conversion isn't really very good even for warriors. I'd probably worry more about mana, HP and raw AC gear then AGI if I were you.
A rundown on Shamans. I made one last year and thought it over.
First off will you be ebil? (We are not evil just misunderstood, if only the halflings would leave us alone. Or if they didnt taste so good parboiled with a hint of lemon and butter.) There are as of TSS no racial penalties in game. Still a bonus for halflings.
Ogre cannot be stunned from the front. Back and sides yes, front no.
Ogres are not well liked in Old world zones, if you dont have the expansions it will take some thinking about. Nice Stam and Str for the tanking.
Trolls. Nice regen. Worship Innouruk and you get the handy clicky snare! This was the ultimate reason I picked troll for my shaman. Its handy and alows kiting and soloing in areas where you dont want your mob running. Now that I am in my 50s with shaman it is used less and less. You will be stunned but not that much. Worship Cazic and no snare for you, just nice regen. Troll regen was helpful before they sped up the non combat regen rates, it is still nice.
Iksar. Forage is a nice plus if you have no foraging toons. Regen and AC bonus not bad, see above for trolls. Oh and you can start swimming. I almost took an iksar for the foraging.
Barbarian. General class no major faction problems in most of the world. (tribunal is "neutral to a lot of races" ) Everfrost still one of the best zones in the game to start play in. Nice beginning quest for necklace item. My first shaman was a barb, didnt want to play evil race, leveled her to 16.
Froglok. Nice starting stats, and not bad starting area in Rathe Mnts. Only faction problems may be having Mithanial Marr as deity.
Vah shir. Big cats, safe fall, starting stats ok. Agnostic diety, Shar val and valley outside good starting zones.
I was going to suggest you looking at a shaman. We can solo most stuff if we can get it slowed. Up in the fifties it does get harder to stand toe to toe even against a slowed mobs. Wurms in Sky for instance.
edit for comments on agility ac. Go for raw ac. At level 60 (dinged this weekend) my agility buff raises ac by 7. That is a total agil on toon of 230.
Starting with 100 agil dex on froglok is nice but you will easily raise to over 200 any stat you have by the time you reach the forties. My stam has been maxed since 45. No need to cast stamina or boar on me just IOS or now Fosoul.
Good luck
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 6:37am PDT by Jonwin
First off will you be ebil? (We are not evil just misunderstood, if only the halflings would leave us alone. Or if they didnt taste so good parboiled with a hint of lemon and butter.) There are as of TSS no racial penalties in game. Still a bonus for halflings.
Ogre cannot be stunned from the front. Back and sides yes, front no.
Ogres are not well liked in Old world zones, if you dont have the expansions it will take some thinking about. Nice Stam and Str for the tanking.
Trolls. Nice regen. Worship Innouruk and you get the handy clicky snare! This was the ultimate reason I picked troll for my shaman. Its handy and alows kiting and soloing in areas where you dont want your mob running. Now that I am in my 50s with shaman it is used less and less. You will be stunned but not that much. Worship Cazic and no snare for you, just nice regen. Troll regen was helpful before they sped up the non combat regen rates, it is still nice.
Iksar. Forage is a nice plus if you have no foraging toons. Regen and AC bonus not bad, see above for trolls. Oh and you can start swimming. I almost took an iksar for the foraging.
Barbarian. General class no major faction problems in most of the world. (tribunal is "neutral to a lot of races" ) Everfrost still one of the best zones in the game to start play in. Nice beginning quest for necklace item. My first shaman was a barb, didnt want to play evil race, leveled her to 16.
Froglok. Nice starting stats, and not bad starting area in Rathe Mnts. Only faction problems may be having Mithanial Marr as deity.
Vah shir. Big cats, safe fall, starting stats ok. Agnostic diety, Shar val and valley outside good starting zones.
I was going to suggest you looking at a shaman. We can solo most stuff if we can get it slowed. Up in the fifties it does get harder to stand toe to toe even against a slowed mobs. Wurms in Sky for instance.
edit for comments on agility ac. Go for raw ac. At level 60 (dinged this weekend) my agility buff raises ac by 7. That is a total agil on toon of 230.
Starting with 100 agil dex on froglok is nice but you will easily raise to over 200 any stat you have by the time you reach the forties. My stam has been maxed since 45. No need to cast stamina or boar on me just IOS or now Fosoul.
Good luck
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 6:37am PDT by Jonwin
Thanks for the post, Jonwin. I decided to make a froggie shammy last night, he's already 7 and I love him. He's fast, short (I hate ogres/trolls for their height, which is why it was so hard to decide), and has ~180 str/sta, and 205 wis (Twinked with old bazaar gear).
I was surprised by the ratio of shaman/race on my server (Prexus), there were 14 froggy shammy, 3 troll shammy, 5 ogre shammy, ~10 iksar shammy and 18 barbarian shammy on at around 2am CST. Not a bad ratio :D, just kind of sad that people still think barbarian is still best (3rd or 4th highest wis, night blind, ... tall :p)
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 1:26pm PDT by Maoukiji
I was surprised by the ratio of shaman/race on my server (Prexus), there were 14 froggy shammy, 3 troll shammy, 5 ogre shammy, ~10 iksar shammy and 18 barbarian shammy on at around 2am CST. Not a bad ratio :D, just kind of sad that people still think barbarian is still best (3rd or 4th highest wis, night blind, ... tall :p)
Edited, Oct 25th 2006 at 1:26pm PDT by Maoukiji
Speaking of melee shaman, I wonder what kind of damage one could do if they used the three of these in their 50s:
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=6906
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=22010
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=50065
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=6906
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=22010
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=50065
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Your last link is not usable by a shaman. The augs are for melee classes alone.
Spirit of the puma is ok but uses a bit of manna for a short time spell. I rarely use it unless on raids when it is the only spell that I can land. (cast on a group member in melee) I get more damage out of bane of nife for about the same cost.
I dont use copper hammer I use the one with the 150 lifetap. Healing me and draining the mob. Much better IMHO.
Your last link is not usable by a shaman. The augs are for melee classes alone.
Spirit of the puma is ok but uses a bit of manna for a short time spell. I rarely use it unless on raids when it is the only spell that I can land. (cast on a group member in melee) I get more damage out of bane of nife for about the same cost.
I dont use copper hammer I use the one with the 150 lifetap. Healing me and draining the mob. Much better IMHO.
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