I have been playing EQ on and off since it started. I play for fun , relaxment and enjoyment. I haven't purchased the latest expansion because there is still so much content left I have yet to see in the vast world of EQ. I was kind of surprised when I logged onto EQ the other night after and see a level 75 running around PoK. So I did a /whoall 75 and there are tons of them.
It had only been 2 days and people had done 5 levels already of content that was supposed to keep them busy for the next few months. What kind of enjoyment can you get from this game if you race through levels at that pace? I expected maybe one or two people who dont have a life to be 75 after a few days, the kind of people who spend 18 hours a day on this game, but this is crazy. Dont these EQ'ers have jobs or at least husband and wives? If they rush through this kind of enjoyment thier sex lives must be short and quick.
Me, I was so happy last night I was finally able to do some soloing in Skyfire and not get wiped. I made 75 pp from a task and loved it. (not that my toon needed it). These simple things is what makes the game still enjoyable for me after all these years.
Anyway I just thought I would spew some thoughts. I wish all you 70+ers the best on your way to 75 and I guess I will see some Drakkin 75s by this weekend.
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It had only been 2 days and people had done 5 levels already of content that was supposed to keep them busy for the next few months.
Incorrect. They've simply gotten to level 75, after being stuck at 70 for years. Getting to 75 is just the start.
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Me, I was so happy last night I was finally able to do some soloing in Skyfire and not get wiped. I made 75 pp from a task and loved it. (not that my toon needed it).
That's great, and the way it should be. Now be nice and let others play the way they like to play.
Edited, Sep 22nd 2006 at 4:09pm EDT by Gladestrider
Jets
You hit the nail on the head.
No job, sex life, or spouse
You hit the nail on the head.
No job, sex life, or spouse
I know a couple people that took off Wednesday, Thrusday and Friday from work just to level their toons. Most of these people are in hardcore raiding guilds as it is, and we all know that for raiding Level >>> everything else.
Don't feel bad for these people, they didn't have a life (according to society) before the expansions came out. IMHO, if that is how they want to live, then more power to them. Who am I to judge/criticize how one lives?
Don't feel bad for these people, they didn't have a life (according to society) before the expansions came out. IMHO, if that is how they want to live, then more power to them. Who am I to judge/criticize how one lives?
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Wow, such insight.
Personally, I have a life, a good one. I also have a good job. It turns out that I DIDN'T get to play much the first few days of TSS. But... I damn near took Wednesday off just to play. If I had, I'd be 75. So what? That would have been tons of fun. I'm not sure I could handle playing that way often -- but if I had had just a little less on my plate this week, it would have been a blast for a day.
Lots of people in raiding guilds, that play crazy hours, have families, social lives, jobs, even sex lives. It just so happens that playing loads of EQ is what they enjoy. Lots of other people don't have time to play every day, but still manage to hit max level right after a release, stay in the best groupable gear around, and generally play at a high level. The whole idea that you have to be a no-life loser to excel at EQ is based in mis-conceptions and ignorance.
Heck, I waste more time drinking than on computer games, and I still have more social life than I need. I play EQ, I just don't sleep!
Edited, Sep 22nd 2006 at 8:09pm EDT by Ganl
Personally, I have a life, a good one. I also have a good job. It turns out that I DIDN'T get to play much the first few days of TSS. But... I damn near took Wednesday off just to play. If I had, I'd be 75. So what? That would have been tons of fun. I'm not sure I could handle playing that way often -- but if I had had just a little less on my plate this week, it would have been a blast for a day.
Lots of people in raiding guilds, that play crazy hours, have families, social lives, jobs, even sex lives. It just so happens that playing loads of EQ is what they enjoy. Lots of other people don't have time to play every day, but still manage to hit max level right after a release, stay in the best groupable gear around, and generally play at a high level. The whole idea that you have to be a no-life loser to excel at EQ is based in mis-conceptions and ignorance.
Heck, I waste more time drinking than on computer games, and I still have more social life than I need. I play EQ, I just don't sleep!
Edited, Sep 22nd 2006 at 8:09pm EDT by Ganl
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exactly why raising the level cap is a total waste.Alienates alot of people.Getting from lvl 1 to 60 was bad enough.Then to 65,70 and now 75.What a daunting overwhelming task that must be facing a new player to the game.Then once they reach the higher levels they still suck unless they have 400-500 aa's.
we've raised the cap and now all the powergamers have reached 75 and what is different about there situation now than when it was level 70?They could have done other things besides raise the cap.
Bitter? A little bit.I was just demoted in my raiding guild because i didn't reach the level cap within the first week.If i don't reach it within another week,i'll be booted from the guild.They say in ordere to raid what we need to raid you have to be at cap...
I was really enjoying the game being at lvl 70.took me a very long time to get there.I enjoyed being able to come home from work,hop on the computer and raid for several hours.No lfg,no trying to get keyed for dungeons,just straight out playing.
If i stay with the game,i suppose in about 2-3 months i'll be able to make cap again but i'm really on the fence right now.
I'm not knocking anyones playstyle here either,if i had the time i would have made 75 in the first few days,i just have to many other commitments but i would still feel the same way about raising level caps.I think it is very counterproductive..
we've raised the cap and now all the powergamers have reached 75 and what is different about there situation now than when it was level 70?They could have done other things besides raise the cap.
Bitter? A little bit.I was just demoted in my raiding guild because i didn't reach the level cap within the first week.If i don't reach it within another week,i'll be booted from the guild.They say in ordere to raid what we need to raid you have to be at cap...
I was really enjoying the game being at lvl 70.took me a very long time to get there.I enjoyed being able to come home from work,hop on the computer and raid for several hours.No lfg,no trying to get keyed for dungeons,just straight out playing.
If i stay with the game,i suppose in about 2-3 months i'll be able to make cap again but i'm really on the fence right now.
I'm not knocking anyones playstyle here either,if i had the time i would have made 75 in the first few days,i just have to many other commitments but i would still feel the same way about raising level caps.I think it is very counterproductive..
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Job --Yes
Other Hobbies -- Yes
Kids --- Yes
Spouse ---Yes (12 years now)
Sex life ----NO
(refer to above)
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Edited, Sep 25th 2006 at 2:54pm EDT by orienth
Other Hobbies -- Yes
Kids --- Yes
Spouse ---Yes (12 years now)
Sex life ----NO
(refer to above)
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Edited, Sep 25th 2006 at 2:54pm EDT by orienth
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It had only been 2 days and people had done 5 levels already of content that was supposed to keep them busy for the next few months
Incorrect, as mentioned. Also, most people did not level to 75 in the new expansion. They levelled in DoDH, OOW, DoN and so forth.
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No job, sex life, or spouse
Incorrect.
My old guild, Vane, do not start raiding until 8pm local time because we all have jobs, families, children and lives.
The sex is pretty good too. (Not in guild, but real life)
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
The thing that upsets about me about hardcore people such as this is SOE seems to design quite abit of content for these people. I feel its because of these people that many of the recent expansions have had content casual players can't use. I mean really other then monster missions how much content is really casual player friendly in DODH/POR? Heck other then Creator Missions I have yet to have any use out of DON, and it seems like OOW mobs all have insane procs, fast movement speed, etc making them underconned. GOD was mainly hardcore player content for its time, and do I need to go into the absolute nightmare of Planar Progression???
I know people get offended and sick of hearing the term "No Life" But honestly what can you expect when you see a person devote enough time to gain lvl 71 to 75 in less then 30 hours?? I honestly wish there was a way to get rid of those people and put them on there own server, however it would be impossible. Even if SOE opened up a casual player server you would still get the hardcore jerks on there plvling to 75 in 2 weeks just so they coudl be #1 first.
I know people get offended and sick of hearing the term "No Life" But honestly what can you expect when you see a person devote enough time to gain lvl 71 to 75 in less then 30 hours?? I honestly wish there was a way to get rid of those people and put them on there own server, however it would be impossible. Even if SOE opened up a casual player server you would still get the hardcore jerks on there plvling to 75 in 2 weeks just so they coudl be #1 first.
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fu fronglo.
I was lvl 75 within 20 hours after release. I have a job, but took 2 days vacation to lvl. I have a g/f since 5 years. I ride skateboard 3-5 days per week. I have more sex then you can imagine, not only with my g/f.
Infact, the only reason I am close to the 'no-life' thing is because I have a work and a g/f which takes away to much of my time.
If you cant handle DoDh, DoN, PoR its not because your a casual player, its because you suck at playing and dont know how to plan your personal progression.
Dont expect to be able to jump to the toughest zone in the latest expansion without playing through earlier expansion first. What would be the fun of that?
With the gear that is available from relativly easy onegroup mission etc there is np at all to do most all 1-group stuff ingame.
GoD hardcore raider expansion? Yah mby you can call it that.. I didnt when it was released.. I wasnt raiding then, nor am I atm. I saw GoD as tough and hard! Something I could look forward to beating when I was ready which was 1 expansion later. I wasnt crying about it.. I was happy I had something to look forward to. (beating tipt for example).
I was lvl 75 within 20 hours after release. I have a job, but took 2 days vacation to lvl. I have a g/f since 5 years. I ride skateboard 3-5 days per week. I have more sex then you can imagine, not only with my g/f.
Infact, the only reason I am close to the 'no-life' thing is because I have a work and a g/f which takes away to much of my time.
If you cant handle DoDh, DoN, PoR its not because your a casual player, its because you suck at playing and dont know how to plan your personal progression.
Dont expect to be able to jump to the toughest zone in the latest expansion without playing through earlier expansion first. What would be the fun of that?
With the gear that is available from relativly easy onegroup mission etc there is np at all to do most all 1-group stuff ingame.
GoD hardcore raider expansion? Yah mby you can call it that.. I didnt when it was released.. I wasnt raiding then, nor am I atm. I saw GoD as tough and hard! Something I could look forward to beating when I was ready which was 1 expansion later. I wasnt crying about it.. I was happy I had something to look forward to. (beating tipt for example).
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The thing that upsets about me about hardcore people such as this is SOE seems to design quite abit of content for these people. I feel its because of these people that many of the recent expansions have had content casual players can't use. I mean really other then monster missions how much content is really casual player friendly in DODH/POR?
I cant believe anyone can say this with a stragiht face. Dodh/PoR had more to offer casuals than had been in a long time. Missions that yielded great rewards that could be beaten in Bazaar level gear. Quests in Arcstone that resulted in Time level armor.
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Heck other then Creator Missions I have yet to have any use out of DON, and it seems like OOW mobs all have insane procs, fast movement speed, etc making them underconned.
If creator is all you have gotten out of DoN, thats your fault for not trying to get out there and try other missions. There are several tasks that the casual can do, and the first 2 tiers of progression are based around casuals. And what version of OOW are you playing in if you are having all these issues. Raiders really only have ONE zone in that expansion. Casuals can survive in any of the others, though they might need to have done some gearing up first.
Only advantage the hardcores have over non hardcore is that they can often jump right into the hard zones, while casuals have to gear up for a couple months in lower zones before being able to.
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I know people get offended and sick of hearing the term "No Life" But honestly what can you expect when you see a person devote enough time to gain lvl 71 to 75 in less then 30 hours??
Or maybe its a person who does have alife, but just decided to take a day or two off from work or whatever to level up. Using 69.1 and the Nest, its not that hard to get to 75.
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I was lvl 75 within 20 hours after release. I have a job, but took 2 days vacation to lvl
Thats kinda sad to me that you would actually take time off of work to level to 75 on a game. Why, were you afraid that they would change the level back to 70 before you hit 75? Or did you think there was a prize for the first 100 75's on a server?
I have taken time off work to go on vacation, be with my kids, or even laze around with the wife for a day but never to play a game...There's got to be more to life than that.
If people want to devote time to EQ who are any of you to claim it's "sad" or say these people "have no life" or...cripes that power-gamers ruin the game for others.
Get off your pedestals (but don't try and get on mine!!).
Some people may find it enjoying and satisfying to use their vacation time to play a computer game, just as others might take two days off from work to go skiing. Different strokes for different folks eh.
And tell me how high-end peeps pushing to the end-game, wearing uber gear and killing the big mobs quickly could possibly ruin the game for others???
...and why does the recent visitor thingy up above say I am the only one here?
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Edited, Sep 26th 2006 at 1:48pm PDT by Elinda
Get off your pedestals (but don't try and get on mine!!).
Some people may find it enjoying and satisfying to use their vacation time to play a computer game, just as others might take two days off from work to go skiing. Different strokes for different folks eh.
And tell me how high-end peeps pushing to the end-game, wearing uber gear and killing the big mobs quickly could possibly ruin the game for others???
...and why does the recent visitor thingy up above say I am the only one here?
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Edited, Sep 26th 2006 at 1:48pm PDT by Elinda
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I have never raided on my main toon, a 74-soon-to-be-75 monk. It is not by choice but more dictated by my real life & work schedule. I have yet to see what some people deem content not geared towards a non-raiding toon. If you feel that DoDH, PoR and OoW do not offer any rewarding content to the casual player, then you seriously need to evaluate how you play the game.
This game is meant to be played at your own pace. Your own pace does not equal everyone else's pace, so quit trying to play a comparison game. If your guild threatens you to be level 75 in two weeks and you don't want to level that quickly, then your current guild is not playing at your pace. Find a new one if it is that upsetting to you.
Not everyone plays at the same pace as you, and a lot of people don't even play Everquest for the same reasons as you. Learn to accept those differences and you should be much happier playing the game as you see fit.
This game is meant to be played at your own pace. Your own pace does not equal everyone else's pace, so quit trying to play a comparison game. If your guild threatens you to be level 75 in two weeks and you don't want to level that quickly, then your current guild is not playing at your pace. Find a new one if it is that upsetting to you.
Not everyone plays at the same pace as you, and a lot of people don't even play Everquest for the same reasons as you. Learn to accept those differences and you should be much happier playing the game as you see fit.
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I was lvl 75 within 20 hours after release. I have a job, but took 2 days vacation to lvl
Thats kinda sad to me that you would actually take time off of work to level to 75 on a game. Why, were you afraid that they would change the level back to 70 before you hit 75? Or did you think there was a prize for the first 100 75's on a server?
I have taken time off work to go on vacation, be with my kids, or even laze around with the wife for a day but never to play a game...There's got to be more to life than that.
Ok lets look at this from a different perspective. You come here to a forum to bash people because of what they choose to do with thier time.
I say you sir are a loser what kind of person sees people do what they want with thier time(minding thier own business and hurting no one mind you) and gets so mad they feel the need to come to a forum and bash them. to me you sound like a kid whining taht another kid got more time on the swingset... You seem to need a life because you dont seem to have one, at least the 75's have something to do.
Gawd, people that are fake "sad" for other people annoy me.
Awww, jetsssssssssss, I'm so sorry that you thought putting that many s's in your name was cool. :( /headpat.
Jetssssssssss, you must not have a REAL life, with all the time you spend on an EQ forum complaining about how people play EQ. I feel sorry for you. :(
See? Annoying.
You go play the game the way you want, I'll play the way I want. Stop being jealous. :)
Edited, Sep 27th 2006 at 12:13am PDT by Myzeri
Awww, jetsssssssssss, I'm so sorry that you thought putting that many s's in your name was cool. :( /headpat.
Jetssssssssss, you must not have a REAL life, with all the time you spend on an EQ forum complaining about how people play EQ. I feel sorry for you. :(
See? Annoying.
You go play the game the way you want, I'll play the way I want. Stop being jealous. :)
Edited, Sep 27th 2006 at 12:13am PDT by Myzeri
Jetssssss wrote:
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I was lvl 75 within 20 hours after release. I have a job, but took 2 days vacation to lvl
Thats kinda sad to me that you would actually take time off of work to level to 75 on a game. Why, were you afraid that they would change the level back to 70 before you hit 75? Or did you think there was a prize for the first 100 75's on a server?
I have taken time off work to go on vacation, be with my kids, or even laze around with the wife for a day but never to play a game...There's got to be more to life than that.
Reason I took the time off was because there is little to do at work atm and I have +200 hours overtime put in this year which can only be withdrawed as time. Trust me, I have a life. I think life is more then work but if working is your idea of life then good for you. I dont want kids yet because there is to much I want to do in life first. Except for working 50+ hours a week im living my dream. Im 29 years old and I bet in my life I have done alot more then you. I hardly watch TV (which you might call having a life, I dont) and I sleep about 4 hours per night. I have competed in snowboard, skateboard and video games on a high to very high level which have gotten me to travel alot. There is hardly a weekend where im at home unless I have to work and since I'm a engineer / consultant I also travel alot in my work.
Leveling fast to 75 is my idea of fun, I like challanges. If I didnt like challanges my life wouldnt be as succesfull as it is and have been.
Now go back to the thing you call a life. Changing diepers, work and watch TV with your wife. You might pitty what I call a life but thats np, I would pitty myself if I had your life or the life of the average man.
I'm an avid non-raider, I laugh when I rez people with their 1.5s and 2.0s. My favorite expansions are DoDH and Ro for the easy SINGLE group NON raid tasks that yeild things with 100-250 hps. Look up quests like shop keeper's delight, crossfire, cloak of the spirit tracker, hell even do spirit mark armor in arcstone, if you completely suck these can get you to decent midrange bazaar geared. I would be 75 today if I weren't getting screwed with 12 hour shifts every day at work. Saying the game is geared twards raiders because you can't do anything doesn't mean SOE is failing, it means you are. Throw up the LFG tag and do something other than creators (the Don version of the highkeep MM). There's only 1-2 "pure raid zones" per expansions these days. You'd probably start a new thread about me if you knew that my wife and I box our entire group. We enjoy what we do, and we have 5 toons over level 70 with more AAs then you can count. Do we have a sex life? none of your buisiness, that has nothing to do with eq or how we play eq. My "main" and favorite toon breaks 14k hp and 2.5k ac. Very comperable to a friend's bard in a raid guild that has his epic 2.0, he has maybe 50 more hp than me and a whopping 8 more AC. I have never raided and I will never raid, but I hold my own and enjoy the game.
If you enjoy a game that doesn't yeild higher end content and farther progression I would suggest cruising the game forums and find a game that has everything the same lvl that hits the same no matter what and you can use one button for an encounter. I prefer a game that gets harder the farther into it you get.
I don't see how raising the level cap keeps you from continueing to suck at this game, if you sucked pre-75 coming out, you can continue to suck now and not worry about what the rest of us are doing.
And my last shot to make people mad before I depart the forum, fronglo, if you had half as many AAs as you had posts you might be able to take on a light blue, because I wish I could get rid of whiney people that don't upgrade their gear and think sony should give them +2000 hps and mana per expansion so they don't have to work to fight in new zones. And PS, I want my own server.
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exactly why raising the level cap is a total waste.Alienates alot of people.Getting from lvl 1 to 60 was bad enough.Then to 65,70 and now 75.What a daunting overwhelming task that must be facing a new player to the game.Then once they reach the higher levels they still suck unless they have 400-500 aa's.
If you enjoy a game that doesn't yeild higher end content and farther progression I would suggest cruising the game forums and find a game that has everything the same lvl that hits the same no matter what and you can use one button for an encounter. I prefer a game that gets harder the farther into it you get.
I don't see how raising the level cap keeps you from continueing to suck at this game, if you sucked pre-75 coming out, you can continue to suck now and not worry about what the rest of us are doing.
And my last shot to make people mad before I depart the forum, fronglo, if you had half as many AAs as you had posts you might be able to take on a light blue, because I wish I could get rid of whiney people that don't upgrade their gear and think sony should give them +2000 hps and mana per expansion so they don't have to work to fight in new zones. And PS, I want my own server.
32 year old here.
getting married = less sex
proven fact!
getting married = less sex
proven fact!
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Reason I took the time off was because there is little to do at work atm and I have +200 hours overtime put in this year which can only be withdrawed as time. Trust me, I have a life. I think life is more then work but if working is your idea of life then good for you. I dont want kids yet because there is to much I want to do in life first. Except for working 50+ hours a week im living my dream. Im 29 years old and I bet in my life I have done alot more then you. I hardly watch TV (which you might call having a life, I dont) and I sleep about 4 hours per night. I have competed in snowboard, skateboard and video games on a high to very high level which have gotten me to travel alot. There is hardly a weekend where im at home unless I have to work and since I'm a engineer / consultant I also travel alot in my work.
Leveling fast to 75 is my idea of fun, I like challanges. If I didnt like challanges my life wouldnt be as succesfull as it is and have been.
Leveling fast to 75 is my idea of fun, I like challanges. If I didnt like challanges my life wouldnt be as succesfull as it is and have been.
I didnt mean for this to be a bashing against anyone and I sorry if it did and I contributed to it.
If this is your idea of fun than I am happy for you. I was mainly just curious how if you rush through something you can get any enjoyment from it.
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I didnt mean for this to be a bashing against anyone and I sorry if it did and I contributed to it.
If this is your idea of fun than I am happy for you. I was mainly just curious how if you rush through something you can get any enjoyment from it.
For some the fun is in the journey, for others in reaching the destination. Different strokes for ....
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How bout this then?
Ok hardcore players wil always play the game like that, they wont change the way they enjoy playing. So give it too them full thottle.
New server that you heve to be lev 75 to enter .. 9Pretty much can call it the Demi-God Server).
You can ply all the way up to lev 100, the catch is that you canoot go back to the other servers, you will continue your EQ experiance as a power player as levels, content, and new abilities are added, but you will be compeating with only other like minded players.
Disallows showing pff to lowbie players to make yourself fell all big and important but hay your lev 100 so who cares?
You can't say that ppl who play EQ that much have no life. For some ppl it is their life. Some ppl use EQ for their social interaction with others as life situations make it impossible to get out of the house to do so otherwise.
That's just not the way I play.
But on the other hand. Alot of these are the same ppl who turned down my lvl 70 druid for a group because they felt she wasn't well equipped enough and didn't have enough mana to group with them. I'm a casual player and never will be anything else. I belong to a casual guild, that will never raid. Not complaining. I like it this way.
Just my 2cp worth
Hugs,
Tambora
BTW love the Demi-god server idea, and give them each 100kp to move there. jk
Edited, Sep 27th 2006 at 8:50am PDT by simcom
That's just not the way I play.
But on the other hand. Alot of these are the same ppl who turned down my lvl 70 druid for a group because they felt she wasn't well equipped enough and didn't have enough mana to group with them. I'm a casual player and never will be anything else. I belong to a casual guild, that will never raid. Not complaining. I like it this way.
Just my 2cp worth
Hugs,
Tambora
BTW love the Demi-god server idea, and give them each 100kp to move there. jk
Edited, Sep 27th 2006 at 8:50am PDT by simcom
if you make a "hardcore" only server then the likelyhood of you getting upgrades is going to go out the window. If nobody that takes down encounters that you can't handle is allowed on your server then you'll never get their scraps in the bazaar. This game takes all types, and even though I'm guilty of it myself, I hate people that think if someone isn't playing the way they are then they are wrong.
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32 year old here.
getting married = less sex
proven fact!
getting married = less sex
proven fact!
You married the wrong person, Dumbo.
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