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Is EQ for me and my kindFollow

#1 Sep 13 2006 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
I have played this game for 5 years now. Love playin but I am a casual player as in 6-10 on weekend, and 4-5 during the week. Can not get in good guilds to raid. Have to do alot solo. Have some friends that play about what I do. Well we all got discourged and left a few months back with all the grping that must be done. Sony keeps heading for the raid and not solo people ..so I was wondering ..am I playing the wrong game? Is there a game similar to this I should be playing? I always thought Norrath was big enough to keep some solo in it. I do realize this is a mass on-line game. Not trying to stop or discourage Raids ..grps..etc.Would like to come back, like the complexity of the game etc.. Any suggestions?
#2 Sep 13 2006 at 4:14 AM Rating: Decent
If you dont have a problem not having alts may try FV, upside is that you can get a lot of gear (raid gear etc) you cant on other servers as not much is no drop. Downside is that there are not a lot of lower level characters, again only one character per account, and if the monster is too much lower then you and drops something magic it may trivalize the loot (not drop the item). There are ways around this ask if you decide to come on our server about that.

Other games that are more designed for solo are World of Warcraft if you really like this fantasy genre ( I have never played it just what I have heard) but from what I have been told it goes raid content at its end levels too.

Another fun one that I have tried is City of Heroes/Villians I never got to like end content though so have no idea on what thats like, but I played it for like a free month off a internet download and it was fun casually and never required me to group.

Anyway hope that helps some.
#3 Sep 13 2006 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Interesting question Sean, and a topic that seems to come up often. Is EQ a predominantly a raid centric game?

I guess I suggest trying to play for a bit in a Vacuum...pretend you didn't know that there were big gnarly mobs out there dropping uber stuff that you couldn't access because of the lack of an elite raiding guild. Are you able to progress? Experience new content? Complete quests?...probably. I would argue that any toon at any level can keep moving forward in the game soloing. It's simply a matter of how fast.

WoW is easier to solo, but there is still raid only content. I would suspect that because of the sheer volume of content in EQ, though, there is just as much to do and see on your own as there is in WoW.

I'm not familiar with many other MMO's except Eve-Online, it's a very similar situation. You can solo and progress but there is much you can't experience on your own.

I don't know the server you're on but I would challenge the statement about not being able to get into a raiding guild - there are many raiding guilds with very basic requirements ie. minimum level of 60.

Try out some other games if this is getting stale...most of them have some kind of free trial. See how they compare and let us know:D


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#4 Sep 13 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
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I'd give Guild Wars a try. No monthly fees, and the design is very friendly to the casual gamer. If you can't find/don't want a group, you can take NPC henchmen with you as a bit of backup. The AI on them is pretty decent, too - indeed, its better than some players I've grouped with :D Apart from Towns and Cities, all zones are all Instanced, so no trains or griefing, but the downside is no zone chit-chat or assistance off passers-by. Fun though, especially if you only have an hour or so.

As mentioned, EVE-Online is a good sci-fi game, very much like Elite played in a multi-player environment. It's true that you need to join a Corporation (similar to an EQ Guild) to get deep into the game, but that's actually a nod towards being "realistic", as some stuff in EVE costs billions. PvP can be harsh, mind you, in the systems that permit it, and those are (naturally) the places to mine the REAL goodies. New players are shown no mercy in these systems, usually - the consensus is basically "Don't attack what you can't kill, and don't go where you can't defend yourself". Indeed, some Corps have a "Kill on Sight" policy towards new characters who enter "their" System, which might seem very harsh, but for all they know, you might just be an alt on a free trial account, sent in as a spy by another Corp they are currently at war with... Yes, it's a complex game, with a steep learning curve, but that's what I like about it :)

I also like the skill system in EVE too - it is far better (IMO) than the "levelling" concept we see so often and it pretty much avoids the "twink" concept. Skills are "learnt" in minutes, days, weeks or months - and that's REAL-TIME. The early skills take mere minutes to learn. Then the learning times get longer and longer, until you get used to a skill taking several weeks, if not MONTHS to learn. No skill in something means you cannot use an item that requires that skill. Period.

I'd see if they are still doing a free trial, and give it a whirl.

Edited, Sep 13th 2006 at 2:32pm EDT by Krago
#5 Sep 18 2006 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I think there is room for the casual player for getting the things that you need that require raiding of some sort. You just need to find the right guild for your 'toons. There are many casual players in the guild I am in. We raid as we need or want things. We enjoy just doing different things, and helping each other out. I am sure there are guilds like this on every server.
#6 Sep 19 2006 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good
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I also played EQ1 for about 5 years. I have played WoW for almost 2 years now and it is significantly easier to go level 1 to 60 solo or grouped as you wish. I am not an end-game person so I don't look at that content or what to do when you hit the level cap. To me the progression getting there is the fun part. I spent years playing a shadowknight and never even hitting 60. In a fraction of the time I hit the level cap in WoW. Was it fun? Yep! Can I do it again and have as much fun? Absolutely. I can try a different class, or try a Horde character instead of an Alliance character (2 different factions in the game).

I would be aware that WoW is easier in every aspect of the game, making it more casual friendly. Even the level 60 content, the high end dungeon 'instances' are constantly done with 5 and 10 man pick up groups. You don't have to put in significant time or find a raiding guild to access huge amounts of game content.

The biggest concern in looking at WoW as an alternative is will you be bored because it is easier? Will crafting satisfy you when you skill up every time you 'hit combine'? It is all trade-offs for what is more important to you. To me, soloability was more important and I quit EQ when I found myself resorting to 2-boxing just to progress without a group. Look at what you want from a game and make the best informed decision you can.

Good luck!
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#7 Sep 20 2006 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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I can't really relate to your actual situation because my wife and I both 2-box - therefore we allways have a group if we want one. Which is most of the time.

On the other hand, I have been playing for about 6 years now and have allways had one character that I considered my solo player. I soloed my ranger into the low 40's, and atm am soloing an Erudite necro. I have taken him to 34 in a fairly short period of time. I can easily solo yellows on the spires in SK and can get a level in about 6 hours of playtime.

I gues what I'm trying to convey is that the choice of character has a lot to do with how sucessful you can be soloing in EQ. I feel that it is important to have a class that can root or snare, and a pet is a HUGH help. It's also significant, I guess, that I've never felt the need to have really uber gear or to level fast.

Just my 2 cp worth - of course the main thing is to remember it's just a game and have fun with whatever game you choose to play. Once I found EQ - with a lot of presure from the wife - I haven't had any desire to try another game. I can't say that I've ever been bored with it, and I keep finding new areas to hunt in.

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#8 Sep 20 2006 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Biggest difference in playstyles is if you are in a guild or not, regardless whether they are a 'raiding' guild or not. Being in a guild gives you more things to do, even if it is just tagging along to help other people out. Check out the Post board in-game in the Guild Lobby on your server. There are lots of family type guilds that would welcome a casual player.
#9 Sep 20 2006 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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Sometimes it's worth being in a guild if only to be able to use the Guild Hall. After coming back from a year hiatus I had been removed from the guild and not having a guild hall was like torture. Of course guilds are good for other things too, but fater getting used to having a guild hall, not having one was beyond an annoyance.
#10 Sep 20 2006 at 5:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I personally play a lot of solo content, and I have never really felt like I was missing out on a lot. I enjoy my guild and getting PUG's, but I'm on at odd times and with a new family, I have to log fast occasionally. Never really had a problem, it's all in how you view the game. Can I get to the uber end this way; nope. But I still have fun and think the cost is worth it, so I'm still here.
#11 Sep 25 2006 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
Well I am in a guild. Most are never on. Some I know have had to let accounts go for a bit. I play a 65 Shaman so yes I can solo. The trick is getting the higher spells to be able to grp. I have gotten in some grps to get spells.I let them know up front what I have.I have also been asked to not grp because of it. I have other toons I go play more, but I will stick it out with Eq. I dread paying for a game ,expansions..etc. again. Thanks for your input.
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