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#27 Aug 07 2006 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Why don't you just admit you have been placed here as a shill for Sony.

I wish. (Any sony people reading this board - PM me if you want to hire me, I'm even living in san diego this summer!)

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Going on, your first "question"-- "what no drop policy"- duh Gulf of Gunthark was first expansion where new spells were no drop, after that everything became no drop or it's corrolary "attuneable".

a) LoY wasn't the first expansion with nodrop spells
b) LoY DEFINITELY wasn't the first expansion with nodrop items, nodrop items have been extremely prevalent in the upper end of every expansion since velious. do you even play everquest?
c) LoY didn't have any attuneable items

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Your second "question"-- "what explosion of bazaar costs"- You must really have your head where the sun don't shine.Also I noticed you didn't address my cavaet "greed of SoE"- your silence on this issue is overwhelming testimony to the blatant face of SoE greed and stupidity. Thanks for your welcome feedback that can rebutted so easily. I suggest you keep your alleged "thoughts" to yourself in the future. If you want to really qualify any of your remarks/"thoughts" as requiring anything but a subliminal animal response to truth and light; then Duh, keep up the good work because you sure make a big glaring target and reflecton of SoE corporate stupidity.

excellent. instead of actually answering the damn question, just start up the ad hominem attacks!
#28 Aug 07 2006 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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no reason to flame...look at the poll most have not touched PoR, they need to do something that allows folks to catch up to at least OOW, like increasing rune drop rates for started. Also the casual player have it tough since many of the missions are now harder MM's in general have been tweaked, DoN missions now respawn, and DoDH mission require X number of kills. So do not flame the casual players they in general have it tougher to do what many of us did when the expansions first came out.

Personally, Sony should tweak the last few Expansions to allow casual players to catch up. How hard would it be to put in a rune vendor, so you could trade a number of one level of runes for a higher. They could be a little creative so casual players do not get left behind and leave EQ. The more that leave the worse it is for all of us that play

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#29 Aug 07 2006 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
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no reason to flame...look at the poll most have not touched PoR, they need to do something that allows folks to catch up to at least OOW, like increasing rune drop rates for started. Also the casual player have it tough since many of the missions are now harder MM's in general have been tweaked, DoN missions now respawn, and DoDH mission require X number of kills. So do not flame the casual players they in general have it tougher to do what many of us did when the expansions first came out

I'm not flaming casual players, I'm flaming stupid players.

MMs are still easy as cake. even in casual groups you won't get many don respawns (and yes, I've been playing as a person with 0 pieces of raid loot, with other people with 0 pieces of raid loot.)

runes are down to 4-5k, except for glowings/greaters, quite whining. (I will admit, people with nodrop mez etc probably have a legitimate gripe.)
#30 Aug 08 2006 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Too many expansions just goes to show that SoE doesn't give a *&^* about the gaming experience or the customer service issues; they're primarily concerned with milking EQ players for new money.

When the majority of players can't keep up with the progression of the newest expansion and are working on content three expansions eariler you would think Sony would pull their head out and work on gaming aspects that affect the majority of their subsription base and stop producing new expansions.

I for one won't be buying another EQ expansion.


There are guilds that have beaten PoR and for them the game would stagnate and get boring. I always see a new expansion as a good thing. We should start worrying when the expansions stop as it probably will signal the beginning of the end of EQ.

I am not sure what progressing has to do one's enjoyment of new content. We do not have to "beat" an expansion to move onto content in another expansion. I'm sure the majority of sony's subscription base *has* played in PoR. I started playing shortly before Gates of Discord came out and I basically did zero progression on expansions before GoD.

Basically, Sony has to balance EQ to appeal to a broad base of players, to arbitrarily state that they should stop developing new content 'because I'm not there yet' is similar to stating Sony should shut down old content 'because I'm past that'. Just to clarify, I'm not done with all the progression either. However, I like the fact there is a lot more to see with more on the way.
#31 Aug 08 2006 at 12:01 PM Rating: Default
Although I have made zero progression thru POR (mainly due to not getting an uber enough group interested) I have enjoyed other aspects of POR. I liked the gear quests that Srakeats mentioned (and yes he's right, they are worth it). I also like the new missions that came with POR such as the Dain ones and some others. Revamped Ro deserts are good, as is the expanded bank. Tradeskill Trophies. There's usually more to an expansion than the basic 'progression' part.
#32 Aug 08 2006 at 12:25 PM Rating: Default
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excellent. instead of actually answering the damn question, just start up the ad hominem attacks!

The question was answered by implicaton; presupposing the fact that where your head is positioned ie "where the sun don't shine" means you have no idea of Bazaar cost trends for the last 5 years(caused by the no drop policies- could do a 1st and 2nd error statistical test, maybe do some Poison or bionomimial statistic models or maybe even a GPSS simulation (query entry on statistial models) for you or maybe recommend some basic economic texts on economic substitution models but since you cant understand basic english I would be wasting my time.. Yes been to bazaar lately and for the past 5 years apparently you dont understand the word explosion of costs.

Your response on LoY is typical of someone who is at first grade reader level. "New spells" at LoY could only be purchased from vender by user duh meaning no drop--- that was the first time vendor offered spells where no drop. The statement "after that" qualifies time sequence and means Attunable became prevelant AFTER LoY. Duh
#33 Aug 08 2006 at 12:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Your response on LoY is typical of someone who is at first grade reader level. "New spells" at LoY could only be purchased from vender by user duh meaning no drop--- that was the first time vendor offered spells where no drop.
Planes of Power vendor sold spells from the Library were No Drop. This, of course, mattered more before PoP was open to everyone.

I don't think there ARE vendor sold LoY spells. They're all quested.
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#34 Aug 08 2006 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Your response on LoY is typical of someone who is at first grade reader level


I think the real problem is that you're writing in a language that could only loosely be described as "English-like." It's very amusing to see you attack someone's reading levels when you have yet to form a thought in an intelligible manner.

And bazaar prices have been steadily decreasing over the past 5 years. Things that used to sell for 50-100k regularly sell for less than 5k. Even OoW Runes which started around 20k (on my server, at least) are down to around 5k. Prices in the bazaar are doing nothing but dropping... The new, top end stuff from each expansion gets more expensive, but prices of existing items decrease.
#35 Aug 08 2006 at 3:10 PM Rating: Decent
Only the newest and most uber baz items have increased in price. The rest of the stuff continues to drop. Stuff that was a complete buget buster 2 years ago can be picked up and slapped on an alt. Not sure where the idea of inflation is coming from. Urban legend I think...
#36 Aug 09 2006 at 1:54 AM Rating: Good
even ignoring the blatant inaccuracies in your post...

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maybe do some Poison or bionomimial statistic models or maybe even a GPSS simulation

HAHAHA, congratulations, you can't spell binomial OR poisson.

maybe my stat class is starting to fade in to my distant memory, but, err... this doesn't seem like something you could apply a poisson distribution model to, anyway.

Edited, Aug 9th 2006 at 3:11am EDT by Groogle
#37 Aug 09 2006 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I have clashed with Groogle on the casual/hardcore issue before and he doesn't understand the issue of a casual player, simple as that.

But and it's a big massive in your face and you can't ignore it BUT!!!

he is right in everything he has said in this thread, except for Rune prices (running at 8k for rune, 10k for minor and 12k+ for lesser on AB).

That doesn't make everyone else wrong though, it's just a different way of looking at the game.

Everyones primary reasons for complaint when they leave EQ is that it's too easy and everything is handed to you on a plate. Yet everyone still wants it made easier... it it supposed to be hard folks!

This comment made me giggle...
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My main is lvl 68 and will probably never advance further, lost interest in leveling when I realized I will never get my 69 and 70
What utter tripe! Any casual player can do MPG trials or RSS with a good group and you can get both greater and glowing from there.

I found it much much easier to get my 69 spells compaired to lvl 67, lessers are much rarer drops than greaters and you don't have half as much competition for them.

I had more fun doing Spell missions and some of the Dodh quest series than i had since LDoN was at it's peak and you get great drops from them.
#38 Aug 09 2006 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
tarv of the Seven Seas wrote:

Everyones primary reasons for complaint when they leave EQ is that it's too easy and everything is handed to you on a plate. Yet everyone still wants it made easier... it it supposed to be hard folks!


Agreed, I receive more satisfaction when completing a hard task or quest than I do completing an easy task, plus the rewards typically scale to the effort put in.

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What utter tripe! Any casual player can do MPG trials or RSS with a good group and you can get both greater and glowing from there.


I hate to make it even easier, but greater runes often rot in RSS (at least they did a few months ago). But you do have to be in zone and learn where the camps are. A sad note though, I saw a group of "uber" toons in WoS down a minor raid mob and were selling the looting rights to a greater rune for 20k. Somehow I find that just wrong.
#39 Aug 09 2006 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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On a sad note though, I saw a group of "uber" toons in WoS down a minor raid mob and were selling the looting rights to a greater rune for 20k. Somehow I find that just wrong.


Oh yes, by all means lets re-start the moral debate over selling looting rights...
#40 Aug 09 2006 at 7:46 PM Rating: Good
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I have clashed with Groogle on the casual/hardcore issue before and he doesn't understand the issue of a casual player, simple as that.

I haven't raided in like four months =p
#41 Aug 09 2006 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh yes, by all means lets re-start the moral debate over selling looting rights...


Doh! Didn't know I was re-starting a moral debate. These toons that were selling the looting rights were also training the mob to various camps in Wos before they killed it. I find that wrong also.
#42 Aug 09 2006 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
Have a 70 Sk on Betox been to ToB and done at least one raid maybe 2 with MI and soon after they reached it they disband and spread across the servers.
#43 Aug 10 2006 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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This comment made me giggle...

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My main is lvl 68 and will probably never advance further, lost interest in leveling when I realized I will never get my 69 and 70

What utter tripe! Any casual player can do MPG trials or RSS with a good group and you can get both greater and glowing from there.



I'm sorry but when I say I can't get them I mean it. I can only be on for max an hour, need to log for an hour or two then come back for an hour again.
I can't get any MPG or RSS groups under those conditions, with the LFG time and the time it takes the group to get ready and get there it's time for me to log before getting started.
Before someone tells me to go play Oblivion or something I would like to say that I never said that I want SOE to build this game around me and my needs, nor did I say that I want to be able to get gear that have +25 on all stats and 400HP and mana. All I said was that I have no intention to buy new expansions since I don't seem to be able to get anything out of them.
Sure, I would like to be able to get my spells some other way, quests, research or bazaar but that seems not likely so therefore I will not be leveling up and progress. It's my problem, all I did was answering the poll question so don't take this as a "I want it all but I don't wanna raid" post.

#44 Aug 10 2006 at 1:35 AM Rating: Good
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Have a 70 Sk on Betox been to ToB and done at least one raid maybe 2 with MI and soon after they reached it they disband and spread across the servers.

wait, MI disbanded?

hahahahahahaha.
#45 Aug 10 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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[quote](and yes, I've been playing as a person with 0 pieces of raid loot, with other people with 0 pieces of raid loot.)


How come?

Just wonderin'

Oh I voted don't yet have the expansion. Still don't have DoDH on one account. May get the next though??

Edited, Aug 10th 2006 at 1:22pm EDT by Elinda
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#46 Aug 10 2006 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
Ah, yet another thread sidelined by the likes of Sir Groogle and Jophiel.

One has absolutely no clue and argues for the sake of arguing:
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And the other, has adimttedly "Retired from EQ" thus accentuating the fact that he posts here just to spite and throw polls off topic, while minimalizing the thoughts of others, even if "others" might be using "English" as a second language.

Get a life you board troll:
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#47 Aug 10 2006 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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..and yet some make unnecessary posts just to comment on others posts.


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#48 Aug 10 2006 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
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and yet some make unnecessary posts just to comment on others posts


The pot calling the kettle black?
#49 Aug 10 2006 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
And others make unnessesary posts about others unnessesay posts about other posts...
#50 Aug 10 2006 at 1:49 PM Rating: Default
I thought that was the whole point
#51 Aug 10 2006 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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How come?

Just wonderin'

old friend dragged me to her server =p

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One has absolutely no clue and argues for the sake of arguing:

for all the people talking about how wrong I am, you would think at least one of them would be able to point out how I'm wrong.
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