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#1 Jul 23 2006 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
Gm’s still not helping
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1. You may not steal kills.

Kill Stealing is defined as the killing of an NPC for any reason that is already fighting or pursuing another player or group that is prepared to engage that same NPC without that group's specific permission.

The intent of this rule is discourage and make note of habitual Kill Stealers, not to punish those who honestly try to work together or those who make an honest mistake. Its enforcement by the EverQuest Customer Service Staff will reflect this philosophy.

This is quoted from Everquest rules

Now my question is when you are ksed. How much information do you need to provide for the Gm to do anything?

My friend is a level33 warrior. Was at a camp he could solo, green mob and a level46 necro named necrolyte comes in for the same mob. Now while Everquest doesn’t support camps, players do, so my friend informed him it was camped. He even asked necrolyte if he would
Like to join his group, as he is cool with lotto. When necrolyte said no he then asked if he just
Planned to ks him. Necrolyte said he planned to take the mob.

Now my friend waited for the mob to spawn and damaged him first and was fully capable of defeating the mob but not able to out damage a 46necro. So necrolyte was able and did ks.
My friend did take logs of what happened and petitioned in game. Gm says he didn’t see it so not helping.

Part of the reason I made a character on the progression server was because I was told there would be a Gm present there and that they would be doing more about stuff like ksing.
So I am asking how much is needed to prove someone is ksing so that a gm will do something?

posted at everquest as well but expect it to get locked.
#2 Jul 23 2006 at 4:06 PM Rating: Default
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And this is a surprise how?
#3 Jul 23 2006 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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I had this happen a long time ago. I was in a unrest group camping the ghost. At the time the boots was still worth something, heck so was the ring. Anyways we camped the ghost room for about 2 hours killing mobs around it for exp. All of a sudden a lvl 50ish druid pops inside the room with wolf form on.

Told the guy we was camping the room and he said we can't keep camps we have to play nice. Sure enough the ghost spawned and we was damaged first and we hurt it first. Of course we stood no chance against the dps of this wizard and he won and sent me tells taunting me that he just looted the boots (before linking so not for sure he did). After telling him off real good he told me I was /reported and petitioned for harassing me and then in another tell I am informed a random newbie loves the boots.

I asked him what he had against us and apparently a person who wasn't even in our group trained his friends charactor so he hated us. I also petitioned and reported him and I never even heard from a GM.

Moral of the story, there is always a-holes out there.
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#4 Jul 23 2006 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL, which was he druid or wizard??
#5 Jul 23 2006 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
um, since when have the GMs ever done anything helpful since VI took the ability to do a zone/world kick away from them?
#6 Jul 23 2006 at 10:34 PM Rating: Decent
Heh, funny one for this. A few years ago a group of guildmates and I were doing the AC camp in OOT and had been there for a couple of hours already when this HE Cleric shows up and asks if he can join us. We were polite and replied that our group was full, which it was. He then get's annoying and asks if someone in our group would drop so he could join because he really needed JBoots. We all chuckled to ourselves and still let him know that he would just need to come back with some of his guildmates after we were done with the camp and we would let him know when we left. He promptly threw a snit and called us the appropriate ammout of names, which we ignored and about 10 minutes later a GM shows up and let's us know that we now have to "share" the camp with him. OooooooK. At the levels we were at, he was 5 levels lower than our group average so we had no problem sharing. First time it was his turn and a cyclops popped we let him have his mob and watched him die with absolutely no interfearance on our part what-so-ever.
#7 Jul 24 2006 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Let him die as you should lol...

GMs did help me once. This was also two years ago so do not apply this standard. this was back when you could /gm and find some names on-line.

Was hunting Crags in EK with 24 druid. Seemed like everytime I found a Crag, snared and dotted it these level 55s would swoop in and kill it in nothing flat, Oops sorry didn't see you they say, sure how did they know I had engaged or so they say...after the third time telling them to stop Ksing me, I contacted GM. There were 2 level 55s in zone, don't know if they were working in tandem or not. GM showed up, talked to us and told them to leave and find more suitable xp zone. I got a ration from them in tells so I /reported them.
#8 Jul 24 2006 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I can only say keep reporting the kill stealing. Sooner or later you will have a GM on the spot when it happens.

My experinces with GM's and Guides has been good. 3 months ago I accidently destroyed a shamans medicine bag that had some lore items in it. They were restored to me within 2 hours.
#9 Jul 24 2006 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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um, since when have the GMs ever done anything helpful since VI took the ability to do a zone/world kick away from them?

cept gms can still do a zone kick, and can still lock you at your keyboard, so you can't type or move except to reply to their tells.
#10Donbayne, Posted: Jul 25 2006 at 12:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) beastroar never claimed it was a surprise.... smartass.
#11REDACTED, Posted: Jul 25 2006 at 11:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuse me. He was certainly ******** in great detail like he was surprised............numbnutts.
#12 Aug 01 2006 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
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#13 Aug 01 2006 at 8:02 PM Rating: Decent
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One expects better of a Ranger. You sure you ain't a Druid?
#14 Aug 05 2006 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
EQ needs to be more like WOW in this respect. No ksing in WOW because whomever taps the mob first, gets the kill. This would really help the low levels when the higher levels swoop in for farming purposes.
#15 Aug 05 2006 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
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How does that work more specifically, does it not allow the person who engages the mob after someone else do any damage or does it just not allow them to loot?
#16 Aug 06 2006 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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A GM is never gonna help with kill steals unless he actually watches someone do it. Simple as that. Seriously, there are far more serious things that sony will not do anything about such as 3rd party programs that all the ubers use but sony dont ban them cause they will lose like 1/3 of the playerbase.

Seriously, get over it, kill steals happen. Just cause someone accuses a person of kill stealing it dont mean a gm is gonna just go ban somebody without any proof.

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Now my question is when you are ksed. How much information do you need to provide for the Gm to do anything?


The gms need to either be there and see it happen or the person needs to admit he did it and you /report the text. That's the only way they will do anything and even with that it unlikely they will do anything. Like I said earlier there are far greater problems that gm need to handle.




Edited, Aug 6th 2006 at 8:42am EDT by TheGreatSieg
#17 Aug 07 2006 at 11:34 AM Rating: Default
Saeel, in Wow, if you hit the mob first, you are the one who gets to loot it (unless you are in a group, then group loot rules apply.) It doesn't matter who hits it second or how much damage they do.

Also, if everyone in your group is on the same quest and you need a particular item from a mob, most of the time, you will all be able to loot that item after one kill. Now this is not true if you are on a collection quest, just if you need one item. That and the fact that most mobs spawn fairly quickly, cuts down on your camp time so there is not a lot of camping going on.
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