If you have this group, what would you add?Follow

I'd say with the enchanter the paladin would become somewhat obsolete as anything but a ramp tank and therefore not useful during all instances. I might add a DPS class that's easy to box in place of the pally such as a mage or a wizard. If you want something to cover ramp and be DPS though I'd add a ranger.

My bid is then an enchanter and a ranger.

Well you will definately need a slower (unless you're only ever doing Unrest instances and relying on the necro ) and with the stated need for mindbuffs, Chanter is the obvious choice. BST would be the same to a lesser extent, but you'd also gain an offtank and some DPS. A shaman wouldn't be able to provide mindbuffs, but hasting/slowing, backup heals and secondary DPS are better than the BST's. I'd say Chanty is priority 1, then either of those two for the final spot.

That brings up a question: would a pet be able to rampage tank? I'm not even sure of the mechanics.

Enchanter for sure. But he might want a classic puller type, Bard or Monk. If he six-boxes with a Bard he may need to stock up on some linament for his wrists too.

Heh.. I somehow missed the 6-box reference. Playing a bard + 5 other characters might be a bit tricky.

What's so difficult about boxing a bard? Just autofollow on the cleric and play mana regen. Such simple.

Enchanter for sure for #1. I would take Ranger for #2. Good HP for ramp tank, and once you get endless quiver AA they are a 1 button DPS char... very nice for multi box situation.

Bard and Shaman there is not really an option.......no group is complete without them!!

Haha.. You made me laugh. Fun joke indeed.

Your primary need seems to be a slower to me, so its pro con shaman, enchanter, beastlord for that. I would probably go shaman or enchanter, with me thinking shaman as best bet.

Other slot specially if your 6 boxing would be a forget me class. As in if they do nothing do I lose much or will I notice it and how much time must I devote to them. So here you want a Wiz, Mage, or Ranger. Occasional big nuke that your not relying on in first two cases, and a autofire save some of my toons weaponshield guy in the later. (note I am not saying these classes suck but am saying that with less management they can do more for you as a 6 box)

Anyway thats my oppinion. If you feel the need for another tank go ranger they arent plate but arent pushovers and really are more DPS then pally or SK in most cases.

I still feel your biggest problem with being able to handle level appropriate mobs though is the slower. I think that if you cover that with enchanter,shaman, or BL you will realize it too. So really 6th slot is wildcard to do with as you will which is why I suggest someone who wont require much maintenince.

Edit: [Disclaimer: I am not belittling anyone's class here. Please realize that in a boxed situation, you cannot play the character to its fullest potential. So while I say fire-and-forget about some classes, that just means that I can hit a key then go back to the warrior to keep the mob attention and the cleric to keep the warrior alive.]





First to address these two remarks. There are too many idiots out there that ruin the game for me. Between the people that join the group for 5 minutes then leave to the people that complain and whine about everything, I would rather fill out the group with my own characters. Plus, I play mostly at off peak hours where finding a solid group that wants to hunt where I would like to hunt is difficult. During peak hours, I'll play the cleric with friends in group situations or go raiding as a guest with one of the top five guilds on my server.

I have six machines and time to play (read as: retired with money). Not using MQ or any other third party program. The necro and druid are pretty much one button (EQ hotkey) characters. With audio triggers, I know when an important spell (like snare or slow) lands. If a dot is resisted, I can always come back once the fight is engaged and recast it. I'll be the first to admit that my 6-box group is not as efficient as a real group, but I enjoy it and in the end that is all that matters. Now, back to regular programming...

Thanks for the replys!

Bard: I have considered this. It would satisfy the pulling needs and once properly geared, it should solve the rampage tank issue. The comments about do I really need the clarity line is well taken and this should suffice. Plus with /melody, it could be more of a "fire-and-forget" character for my boxing needs. For melee, a bard would have the same boxed issues that a paladin would have, but I could live with that.

Shaman: If I go with the bard, I think the shaman will fit into the scheme of things. With the audio triggers and EQ hotkeys, he too could be a fire and forget.

Paladin and SK: While making a better rampage tank, I am seeing some people's points that the lower DPS would not be that great later in the game when compared to a ranger.

Mage and Wizard: I would love to have either one of these in my group. Sadly, I see them fitting my needs in the last two group slots for how I want to play.

Berserker, Monk, and Rogue: Too difficult to box for decent efficency. I tought heavily on a rogue, but in my 4-box the mob moves a lot with the necro pet and warrior that using a rogue would be tough.

Beastlord: Now this is the one that is giving me the most difficulty. For what I want to go after, would their slow be good enough. I think it might be good enough. The BL would also provide some mind buff bonus (going back to the comment of do I really need the clarity line), pet DPS, and a decent rampage tank. Plus with the BL filling both the rampage tank and slower roles (my two most needed), that opens up to perhaps adding a mage to the last spot because the pet toys and CoH would solve a couple other problems.

Enchanter: You have me thinking about if I really need clarity.

Ranger: Fire and Forget DPS and a solid rampage tank.

So, after reading all of this it comes down to...

1 - Ranger + Enchanter
2 - Bard + Shaman
3 - BL + Mage

Edited, Jul 18th 2006 at 10:43am EDT by Pinzarn

fast note on melody, if you miss a note, you are fubar until the melody is over.

from what i understand, and i could be wrong on this, if you miss a note on the first song, you have to wait until the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, pulse before you can restart the melody macro.

that is a long time to wait if it is am important song like snare/slow when the mob is running away to pull his friends at the end of a fight.

Enchanter and Ranger

You'll get slows, hastes, and mind buffs from the chanter and CC for the adds. Ranger for the ranged dps and decent tanking for ramps and off tanking in a pickle.

I was (mostly) joking about the bard autofollow+mana song.

A necro would *not* be a good choice for CC when boxing/botting. It's too active in most cases. You would need to deal with each mob individually and much of it includes snaring, kiting the mob away and rooting it somewhere. That's far too much effort when you're also controlling 3+ other characters. Chanter, of course, is the master of efficiency with area stuns and area mez.