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#1 Jun 06 2006 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know exactly how spell casting specialization works? I've heard that if you have 200 specialization in something you'll have a 20% chance of having the mana cost for spells of that type halved. I don't know if this is true or not.
Also, how does the spell casting mastery aa affect how this works?
#2 Jun 06 2006 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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So.. I went out to find facts on SCM and mana savings for my model to decide wether to Spec change and/or buy Secondary Forte. So after much wandering about, I settle on this Archived for Reference because it's so good Graffe thread:

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3471

From which I extract (painfully) these answers: Specialization nor Spell Casting Mastery is *not* random, but a fixed savings per cast. You still need the "base amout" to cast the spell, but when you are done the savings are refunded.

Specialization

50: 3% savings (or 2.5)
200: 11% savings (or 10)

so.. 100 should be between 5% and 6%.

Spell Casting Mastery does not add a random check, but rather another fixed percentage of savings:

SCM1: 2%
SCM2: 5%
SCM3: 10%

Without secondary Forte.. with SCM2 you are getting a refund of 16% mana on each of your primary spec spells, 8% on the others. Once you get SCM3 you will be getting 13% and 21% respectively.

So, to summarize, if I read all this correctly:

Fixed Mana Savings (in refund form, after cast):
Spec  SCM0  SCM1  SCM2   SCM3 
 50     3%    5%    8%    13% 
 200   11%   13%   16%    21% 
 
 100    5%    7%   10%    15% 
  to    6%    8%   11%    16%

Plugging this into my model of spells I really cast makes my head hurt.. but that's thats my problem. Does anyone have any information to invalidate these assumptions?

http://www.necrotalk.com/index.php?showtopic=4448&st=0&#entry43064

Edited, Tue Jun 6 12:39:36 2006 by Felicite
#3 Jun 06 2006 at 4:46 PM Rating: Default
That's rather excellent. That means with the focuses that save 23% to beneficial or detrimental, you'll be saving nearly half the mana cost of a spell. And then if you throw in focuses for priests like on the anguish BP's you're paying only a little under a third of the full mana cost. (Edit: for the ancient heals)

Brilliance!

Edited, Tue Jun 6 19:00:30 2006 by Brudish
#4 Jun 06 2006 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Im assuming you mean Ritualchanter's Tunic of the Ancestors

A focus effect of 23% savings, such as Touch of Judgement, would stack with SCM, but not with OoW tier 2 chest piece. I am pretty sure, although i have been wrong before.
#5 Jun 08 2006 at 1:02 AM Rating: Default
Ahh, yes, it probably doesn't. Though... I don't know, I get this odd feeling it might stack. Who knows? Somebody enlighten us.
#6 Jun 08 2006 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Brudish wrote:
Ahh, yes, it probably doesn't. Though... I don't know, I get this odd feeling it might stack. Who knows? Somebody enlighten us.


It doesn't.
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