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#1 May 30 2006 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
I am currently a lvl 62 Ranger on Fennin Ro. I do not play as much as I used to mainly because I am (in my own mind) a true ranger and prefer to do things on my own...and due to me being a casual player and probably not as good as I could make my ranger I now play less and less because most people tend to not want to help the casual player toward the higher levels (only my opinion),

So with those experiences in mind. I have done something interesting or idiotic (perception being the key) recently.

I have a lot of pp from helping other people, friends that have quit and given me either gear or pp. Regardless I am not really playing all that much anymore....so I decided to experiment with something and I truly do not think it will spread but I hope that it does.

I have sent out an /ooc and asked if someone could spare 10pp to help me out. Just that statement alone (later I changed it a bit, but this is what I began with) I then waited for someone to respond, if anyone would, and then asked them "If I give you a gift and ask for nothing in return would you be willing to continue the chain" Then I gave them 10k in pp, granted not to a lvl 1 or anything but someone DB or higher to lvl 62, all I told them in response to their suprise and basically "WTF" was do something you think is equivilent to this gift to someone in the near future....

ok essentially a pay it forward EQ style, maybe not even EQ style but me style.....

I am no moron I know of the ten people I did this with maybe two or three will continue the random act of kindness....but for me it brings some random enjoyment to someone in EQ that seems everyone is for either themselves or only their guild (again only my opinion.)

So flame me, tell me what you think because I am curious if anyone thinks the small thing I did will have any impact in a game I used to love so much....

#2 May 30 2006 at 7:49 PM Rating: Decent
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One would like to think so, but I would say it will have no impact at all.
#3 May 30 2006 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
That is a great act of kindness to do for someone else. But I think you should approach this in another way. Now don't get me wrong. 10K of PP is ALOT but I think you should thin that out a bit. Lets say u give 100PP to a lvl 50 or so. That would be gone in a day and the person who recived the gift wouldn't really care because its not much to him or her. But what if you gave 100PP to a lvl 10-20. That would be alot more worth it for that person because he or she could use it to buy 10 times the amount of things a lvl 50 would.

Just my two cents.
#4 May 30 2006 at 9:07 PM Rating: Good
It's not going to change anyone, but it's cool as hell. It reminds me of the way it used to be when I started back in around 02, when there were always dozens and dozens of people running around GF, often receiving help from high levels engaging in random acts of kindness.

Edited, Tue May 30 22:15:19 2006 by Gladestrider
#5 May 30 2006 at 9:14 PM Rating: Decent
I think that is why I did it because it reminds me of when I first started in 2000. When Gfay was the Bazaar and people always did really nice things for people at very random times.
It seems like EQ has moved away from that. I agree that it may not have any impact and thinning it out for lower lvls is a great idea.

But even if it works for two out of the ten I did it for then it may at least give someone that enjoyment that should be had while playing this game.
#6 May 31 2006 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Interesting idea. I had become a good bit jaded myself until very recently. Rolled an SK and went to Netherbian to solo level up a bit at the center column. Over 2 days was amazed at how many higher levels passing through would just randomly stop, buff and/or heal and move on. Wow! Told a buddy that the very next thing I would do would be to come back with my level 70 and buff/heal everyone I could find in there. Then run to DSP and do the same there.

Maybe it's catching!
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#7 May 31 2006 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
Gotta say that is a great idea. 1 caveat I would add would be to make sure to write the name down of people you give to so not to duplicate efforts (give to someone more than once) and avoid the super-greedy trying to "double-dip" from you. Yes they could come back on another toon but at least you avoid some of it.
#8 May 31 2006 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
I do in fact have the names of all ten people. And I plan on kind of following up with them in a little while, but not in a big brother capacity. But I wanted to do more than buff or heal or get someone out of a tight spot...Which is still a very positive thing in EQ but very seldom do people go out of their way to help somone else unless it is convienent...

With all the lvl 65+ toons online at any given time. They could act as a guide, during some down time, and send a shout for a newbie group 20 or less and offer to guide them to a lvl appropriate location and sort of "train" them.....instead of camping out in GH /lfg.

And you better believe those 6 people that got involved would probably never forget the person that helped them and probably do the same when they got that lvl.

So I am not going to do this everytime I am online and I am looking for more interesting ways interact with the people that don't have the time to grind out everything and are on EQ for the community aspect that I truly enjoy.

Being a 62 Ranger I cannot PL anyone, nor do I think it is appropriate but I can take people to my old hunting grounds and show them what worked for me and tell them my tricks of the trade(which are not many)

The pp was a first step into a few ideas I have to make things more enjoyable for some other people and remind me of why I enjoyed the game so much in the first place.
#9 May 31 2006 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
i tried to give 2k plat to a player who invited my lvl 16 necro into his group and lvled me to 20 in an hour and a half. he said no. but then said if i wanted to i could split it to the group so i did everyone said thanks. it seems rare to find players willing to give money for nothing back. and even more rare for a player to so no and even more rare to say split with group .

for a player to be willing to help many is nice but in the same day i was soloing forest giants and had to use feign death for the first time and noticed that mana regen is as if i was standing. i mention this in general chat. i not only got laughed at but a min later i had to type fast as i was under attack. i typed "lol i have to use freign again, under att by giatns swamped me pet had to die.

at this time i get nasty message about my spelling and using att is stead of attack. i asked the others in general if it was really that hard to understand my text even with the spelling errors, most said no. but this one guy kept on me for 30 min. getting meaner and meaner with his text. i said i'm glad this is latenight and no kids online to see this guy freeking out over spelling.

i feel that if the Etiquette of some players is so bad they should just leave the chat. i'm sure many misspell words or use short hand when typing. and there's no reason to freak out on them. or critize them for not knowing everything about all classes or about the whole game.

vetplayers should be helpful or just say nothing if nothing good to say. some of us players just play to help others. as it's fun. we're not here to put down everybody else. i understand that there are kids playing and their attitude can be bad but set an example and be courteous.
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#10 May 31 2006 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
I wish you luck on them paying it forward.

I started in the fall of '01, and I can still remember when someone gave me 100pp about a month after I had started. At that point in time, I had less then 10pp to my name, and the generosity of the guy just astounded me.

As a druid, I do love handing out buffs free of charge. But one of my favorite things used to be to go down to gfay and do an /ooc that I would buy bat wings or spiderling silks for 100pp each. I always got the "are you crazy", tells but I really wanted to help the newbies. Its not as much fun anymore with so few real newbs out there.

Back in about '03 (while gfay was still big), my guild organized a party down in gfay. Scavenger hunts, drunken races up in the trees, etc. The most popular was an EQ trivia game, where if you answered correctly, you could choose a prize out of 4 backpacks of stuff. One of the best nights I can remember.

#11 May 31 2006 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Back in the day.. when I was young and never strayed far from the gates of Neriak.. my sister and I came across and amazing thing: A middle aged Feir`Dal Ranger that was joking with the guards at their post by the gates. Amazed that a day loving elf of Faydwer would be accepted by the guards, we struck up a conversation with him (while staying near the guards).

Light banter at first, but it turned serious when he paused and explained this was his last day in the world. In fact, the very last hour. We asked why he was here, then, at the gates of our dark city? Well, he explained that he loved the quiet calm of our Forest and the swimming in the dark waters of Neriak (something I enjoyed nightly.. but that's another story) so much that he had worked most of his days gaining the respect and trust of the citizens and officials.

So, he continued, he had come here with the sum of his estate in hopes that he could share it with the youth of Neriak. Perhaps us.. *smiles* Now my sister and I were the not childern of nobles, but our family were successful merchants in town.. an we had no reasonable wants of our own. We were not outfitted to slay dragons, yet, but we had everything we needed in our early Season.

Yet this pale elf was so earnest in his want, no it was a need, to help that we took his coins and for the next week we returned them to youth of Neriak.. ten times over. In his name, always. We told his story and explained that "this was his purse".

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My House would often picnic at the gates of Neriak on a weekend day. During the week we would gather magical weapons useful to the young, tailor and backsmith bags and armor, prepare food and drink. We would wear our finest silks and smile while we blessed the young and handed out our little treasures, and perhaps a few gold coins from each of us.

But it became harder and harder to find anyone that desired.. well.. anything. It seems everyone was an old soul, and laughed at our gifts as toys.. demanding or already having more. So sad.. how can a world grow without children?

Until I stopped going home. But that is yet another story.
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