years ago when i left EQ, the following xp penalties/bonus were in play (or close to the #s below) are they still there:
human, elf (all 3), dwarf, gnome = none
halfling = 5 or 10% BONUS
ogre = 5% penalty
troll/iksar = 10% penalty
vah shir = none
froglock = ???
this was true at least up to the gOd expansion, has this been modified, removed, or left in place since?
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Your numbers are a bit off but, yes, racial xp modifiers still exist.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
still in place, although I think some of your penalty numbers are pretty decently off.
The ole Racial Modifier thread
Halflings: +5%
Barbarians: -5%
Ogres: -15%
Troll/Iksar: -20%
Pretty sure the rest are non-modified. Slam, Regen and Stun Immunity seem to be the major causes of xp penalties and Frogloks & Vah Shir both lack those (and VS have the food penalty).
Halflings: +5%
Barbarians: -5%
Ogres: -15%
Troll/Iksar: -20%
Pretty sure the rest are non-modified. Slam, Regen and Stun Immunity seem to be the major causes of xp penalties and Frogloks & Vah Shir both lack those (and VS have the food penalty).
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
The ole Racial Modifier thread
Halflings: +5%
Barbarians: -5%
Ogres: -15%
Troll/Iksar: -20%
Pretty sure the rest are non-modified. Slam, Regen and Stun Immunity seem to be the major causes of xp penalties and Frogloks & Vah Shir both lack those (and VS have the food penalty).
Halflings: +5%
Barbarians: -5%
Ogres: -15%
Troll/Iksar: -20%
Pretty sure the rest are non-modified. Slam, Regen and Stun Immunity seem to be the major causes of xp penalties and Frogloks & Vah Shir both lack those (and VS have the food penalty).
thanks, for confirming that and adjusting the #s. what is the food penalty?
[quote=JophielHalflings: +5%
Barbarians: -5%
Ogres: -15%
Troll/Iksar: -20%[/quote]
What, nobody wants to be short? How come us halflings get an xp bonus. Not that I'm complaining at all. :) Just curious if anyone knows why.
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Just read the thread. It looks like it is because nobody wanted or wants to be a Halfling. LOL They also say Humans should have gotten some kind of Race bonus for havin "mediocre" stats.
Edited, Wed Apr 12 18:13:05 2006 by woogietwentythree
Barbarians: -5%
Ogres: -15%
Troll/Iksar: -20%[/quote]
What, nobody wants to be short? How come us halflings get an xp bonus. Not that I'm complaining at all. :) Just curious if anyone knows why.
edit:
Just read the thread. It looks like it is because nobody wanted or wants to be a Halfling. LOL They also say Humans should have gotten some kind of Race bonus for havin "mediocre" stats.
Edited, Wed Apr 12 18:13:05 2006 by woogietwentythree
summary of the modifiers you also find here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/EverQuest/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Exp._Boni
as to the VS food penalty, not sure, but wasn't it twice as fast?
as to the VS food penalty, not sure, but wasn't it twice as fast?
Still a noob. :-P
Characters on Drinal, Povar, EMarr, Firiona Vie.
Characters on Drinal, Povar, EMarr, Firiona Vie.
Common lore has it that humans were intended to get the +5% bonus for having average stats and no special racial abilities. However, it was accidentally coded to the halflings (who do get infravision and some decent stats). While the mistake was acknowledged, it was never anything the Powers that Be were willing to muck around with fixing.
I can't say with certainity that that's the fact but it sounds plausible. Given that the previous xp "fixes" for grouping and removal of class penalties wasn't a real fix but a slapped on patch with an artifical modifier, I can believe that truely editing the xp mod code is more difficult than you'd assume.
I can't say with certainity that that's the fact but it sounds plausible. Given that the previous xp "fixes" for grouping and removal of class penalties wasn't a real fix but a slapped on patch with an artifical modifier, I can believe that truely editing the xp mod code is more difficult than you'd assume.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
no the halfling bonus was inteneded and mentioned to be happening before X patch. then on that patch it went live. it was to intice players to play the halfling pally (new for that race at that time), but most people just made ling dr00dz
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no the halfling bonus was inteneded and mentioned to be happening before X patch. then on that patch it went live. it was to intice players to play the halfling pally (new for that race at that time), but most people just made ling dr00dz
the halfing xp bonus has been around way longer than halfling pallies have been
yes, but it was increased the patch after the pallies were introduced.
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yes, but it was increased the patch after the pallies were introduced.
no, it wasn't.
the only change to xp modifiers, ever, was the removal of the hybrid penalty.
Edited, Thu Apr 13 12:00:18 2006 by Groogle
I have to agree with Groggle on this one. The xp penalty and bonuses were hardcoded into the game pre-original release.
We just didn't know enough about the game to realize it at the time.
We just didn't know enough about the game to realize it at the time.
what ever on that one guys, but SoE did make mention after the pally for halflings went live that they were going to increase the xp bonus for that race to entice players to use them.
the hybrid penalties was droped a long time before that change to playable classes per race.
sadly soe does not provide access to all of their patch notes since release, or id did it out for you.
the hybrid penalties was droped a long time before that change to playable classes per race.
sadly soe does not provide access to all of their patch notes since release, or id did it out for you.
Have at it
Edit: March 19, 2002 was when paladins became a halfling playable class, just to get you started.
Edited, Thu Apr 13 15:21:19 2006 by Jophiel
Edit: March 19, 2002 was when paladins became a halfling playable class, just to get you started.
Edited, Thu Apr 13 15:21:19 2006 by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
The oldest patch notes I see on that link are January 2003.
ZatxWoopyoax the Irrelevant wrote:
The oldest patch notes I see on that link are January 2003.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
seem 4+ years has foged my memory more then i thought. i found the patch with the addition of the pally to lings, but no mention of the xp bonus to the lings... must be my head getting older..
the pally class was added to the lings in March of 2002. so a bit back that was.
the pally class was added to the lings in March of 2002. so a bit back that was.
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