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#1 Apr 05 2006 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
I'm a 69 (soon 2b 70 :D) bst on mith marr (stolen by saryn -.-) I'm looking forward to the permanent warder (suspend, log out, log in, unsuspend)

Can you give your warder player made armor? Would he be able to use magnetic armor and velium gemmed weapons?

If so, how bout no drop equipment? can I do a raid and give my pet say......a dragonkiller? O.o

Master Shedder Mangekat of Mithaniel Marr.
#2 Apr 06 2006 at 7:38 AM Rating: Good
give that account back to whoever you got it from
#3 Apr 06 2006 at 10:27 AM Rating: Default
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Yes you can.

A bst pet equipped with dragonkiller x2 (pets dual wield) and a full set of Anguish Plate would be an unbeatable killing machine.

GL with this and let us know how your guildmates reacts to these ideas.
#4 Apr 06 2006 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
From what I've read, however, pets are unable to use NOTRADE items so putting anguish gear on it is kind of a waste.
#5 Apr 06 2006 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Funniest thing I have read all day!

#6 Apr 06 2006 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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im not gonna laugh at this...cause when i was a noob and looking over the AA's and saw that i could suspend my pet when i log..blah blah blah..i was exicted too and thought that i could have a pet indefintally...

now for your reality check...

Suspending pets are great to keep their buff timers on pause while you get to the zone your goin to or when you log for the day...

hmm....

trying to think of anything else suspended minion is good for....

hmm....

coming up with nothing...

the fact is, when you die, any pet you might have had suspended, goes bye bye (you die, you have no more pets, suspended or no). trying to raid gear a pet would be a total waste. Plus i dont know what kinda people you raid with, but i couldnt' convince anyone i raid with to let me have raid loot for my pet! Mage Pet armor and rusty weapons are the only thing you will want to fork over for your pet. I regret getting suspended minion AA's now, and wish i would have just gotten pet hold and pet affinity (pet able to get group buffs).

Its up to you, but dont think that your gonna have this one all time awesome uber pet thats gonna never die, cause it aint in the cards son!

edit: minor spelling changes(prolly still missed some)

Edited, Thu Apr 6 19:21:59 2006 by lukistke
#7 Apr 06 2006 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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Before you log, get a shroud, pet/armor/buffs suspended, no AA points wasted.
#8 Apr 06 2006 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
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give that account back to whoever you got it from

dont be a dumbass
#9 Apr 06 2006 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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jrmayii wrote:
give that account back to whoever you got it from

I'll second this.
#10 Apr 07 2006 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Brudish is correct--warders can't equip no drop weapons/armor.
#11 Apr 07 2006 at 1:42 AM Rating: Good
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lukistke wrote:
now for your reality check...
and now for a reality tip since you picked up the check.=P
lukistke wrote:
Suspending pets are great to keep their buff timers on pause while you get to the zone your goin to or when you log for the day...
that'd be persistant minion you're referring to there, not suspend minion.

suspend minion 1 suspends warder/pet but wipes buffs/weaps/armor and does not maintain warder/pet across zonelines.

suspend minion 2 suspends warder/pet with buffs/weaps/armor but like SM 1, does not maintain warder/pet across zonelines.

and of course, neither maintain warder/pet through logging out.
lukistke wrote:
hmm....
trying to think of anything else suspended minion is good for....
hmm....
coming up with nothing...
then you're not trying hard enough.

pet pulling. suspend warder/pet, cast green warder/pet to mobs, and pull. necros and shadowknights have added benefit of FD'ing while pet pulling. not sure what mages and shammies do, but we beastlords make do or die or zone. i've successfully solo'd ldons using pet pulling.

back up warder/pet in case one dies. handy on raids where warders--if allowed mind you--have the life span of me soloing Quarm.

persistant minion, as well as the above covers:

convenience of not returning to PoK to shroud to keep a warder/pet.

convenience of not having to burn mana to cast a warder/pet if logging unshrouded.

so, there's not only a use, but several very good uses for beastlords to buy SM 1/2 and PM.
lukistke wrote:
the fact is, when you die, any pet you might have had suspended, goes bye bye (you die, you have no more pets, suspended or no).
with PM, before rezz, cast warder/pet and suspend. you'll have a warder/pet w/o the inconvience of waiting for mana to regen yet again--hey, you're only gonna lose that mana again, might as well use it.
lukistke wrote:
trying to raid gear a pet would be a total waste.
agreed.
lukistke wrote:
Plus i dont know what kinda people you raid with, but i couldnt' convince anyone i raid with to let me have raid loot for my pet!
no, b/c it's typically no drop and that's a total waste--better to let it rot.
lukistke wrote:
Mage Pet armor and rusty weapons are the only thing you will want to fork over for your pet.
/arches eyebrow in surprise


that's not the advice i'd expect from someone with as many AA as you have. rusty weaps and mage armor? why not mage weaps--fists, blades, etc--and, while soloing, throwing gear that'll rot/dupe lore/can't use on your warder/pet? my warder had quite a few nurga drops on it b/c of duplicate lore messages; might as well put the stuff to use.
lukistke wrote:
I regret getting suspended minion AA's now, and wish i would have just gotten pet hold and pet affinity (pet able to get group buffs).
i got suspend 1 and 2 before i got discipline or affinity; its worked very well for me. though, i will say i've enjoyed affinity if anything for the mgbs and group HoTs and paragon taking on warder. also, i really should pick up pet discipline but stubbornly refuse...ok, so i'm a glutton for spamming the back button.=)
lukistke wrote:
Its up to you, but dont think that your gonna have this one all time awesome uber pet thats gonna never die, cause it aint in the cards son!
i can agree somewhat--it depends upon what AA he has. a 70 beast without avoidance/BF/WA/etc seriously needs to reconsider their AA choices if SM 1/2 and PM are taking the lead.

none-the-less, i've kept the same warder with ghetto persitant minion--shrouding--for over a month. granted, i didn't raid during that time, but i was logging about 2 hours a day soloing/grouping.

handy is all i have to say. breaking the DSP side entrance of GE w/o adds is fun stuff for one example. even though solo'ing ldons isn't everyone's cup of tea, it's an interesting experience i think all beasts should try. mana saving is always a good thing to me, whether before a rezz or logging on the next day. raiding and having a spare--or even just grouping and especially solo'ing is handy.

one could suggest with the amount of mana regen, pots, mind buffs, GH hottub etc, SM 1/2 and PM don't have the lustre they used to, and one would be correct. but that doesn't mean the AA is totally lacking a sheen.
Edited, typos, tags, clarification, etc

Edited, Fri Apr 7 10:35:28 2006 by joev
#12 Apr 07 2006 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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1.I think that even giving your pet weapons that are gonna rot is still worthless...

You cant give pets no drop items, so thats out..

Giving your pet droppable items, IMO, is a waste...i would use those items for tribute.

2. Suspended minon is good for pet pulling...I never do this, i guess thats why i didn't think of that. I hate soloing though too : (

3. Also having a back up is good for soloing when one dies...

joev put it right, they are good to have, but dont get them before other, much more needed AA's, IMO
#13 Apr 07 2006 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
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lukistke wrote:
1.I think that even giving your pet weapons that are gonna rot is still worthless...

You cant give pets no drop items, so thats out..
yup. not in dispute by me. =)
lukistke wrote:
Giving your pet droppable items, IMO, is a waste...i would use those items for tribute.
if you're soloing--i see below you don't like to so i'm aware of your situation--and the same lore item (note, lore, not no drop)drops twice, you might as well give it to your warder/pet b/c you can't pick it up. tribute one and have some ok or not so ok gear on a warder/pet.

put it to you this way, had 2 SHFD drop in Charasis one night. i was the only one in zone so no one to give them to. i gave them to my warder as i had one on me already. i enjoyed some seriously good procs off my warder for about a week...until i tried to solo something that, um, i shouldn't tried to solo. =)

in a group situtation, if no one wants a lore, droppable item--or can't pick it up due to dupe message--and your pet/warder can use it, why not just feed to warder/pet. certainly doesn't hurt, and if it doesn't help, no biggie.
lukistke wrote:
2. Suspended minon is good for pet pulling...I never do this, i guess thats why i didn't think of that. I hate soloing though too : (
fair enough. i'm primarily solo due to hours of play but i manage the occaisonal raid/guildie group. but, even if i didn't solo a lot, i'd say it'd be useful for those times of just dinking about. however, odds are there's better AA to buy at that point--or if a beast has so many AA the choice between SM 1/2 and PM and innate CHA, is pretty much forgone. =)
lukistke wrote:
3. Also having a back up is good for soloing when one dies...

joev put it right, they are good to have, but dont get them before other, much more needed AA's, IMO
true enough. think play style does come into it and what the demand for the AA might be/is.

Good Hunting Dar Khura,

Edited, Fri Apr 7 20:45:17 2006 by joev
#14 Apr 07 2006 at 10:19 PM Rating: Default
Look. Your warder is, at times, going to die.

So here are some notes.
-First of all, give that account back. I'm thirding this.
-Use Mage-summoned items.
-Your pet can't use No Drop. You can give it to it, but it'll just eat it.
-You die, your pet dies. The items are gone.
-Give it cheap trash you get along the way if it's missing a slot.
-Shroud and camp. The pet will be back when you log back on and unshroud, so you can suspend now. You can still get the AA's when available to avoid this hastle.

Find something cheap.. cheap enough that you don't mind throwing it away. And give it that. Mage-summoned is perfect for this. As for the missing slots, do as you will.
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