Ok, this is really weird. I downloaded the update for the new expansion and all "heck" has broken loose on my computer since. First, when I restarted my computer the everquest patcher is launching all by itself. WTF is that all about. But it gets better. My McAfree software got itself somehow shut down in the process and I had to reinstall that. On top of all that I was getting this message upon rebooting as well, "that c:\program needed to be renamed to c:\program1 to fix a problem" and I had the choice to do that or ignore. So of course before I went to work this morning I tried checking on a fix for it with the EQ box repoping up every 5 minutes after I cancelled and closed the box. So I uninstalled EQ from the install/uninstall function. That didnt stop the EQ patch program from loading so I had to delete my everquest folder. WOW!! So is it just me or is anybody else asking help from tech??? Oh and by the way I used "hijackthis" and it didnt show anywhere how in the heck that the launcher program was starting which makes this even stranger.