Hey all!
Ill try to make this msg short and readable, though there is a lot I would like to say in it.
Okay I started EQ in 1999 and stayed till Dec 2004. I just returned. The reason I left was the feel of EQ had changed so much. I was missing the old school feel and the social and teamwork components.
Do you miss hearing "CAMP CHECK".... "ORC 1"?
or Riding the boat?
Begging for ports (well it sucked but it was part of it)
FayMart and EC Tunnel Bazaars? (all on me for sale - at Torch 1)
How about being chased down by those orcs and lions and running to a guard or EC tunnel for help?
Maybe Drovlargs hand you your **** ???
Well, here's your chance to relive those nightmares............(/WEG)
ANNOUNCING an OLD SCHOOL SERVER.
Actually, its not 100% accurate, but for us, it will suffice.
Mission Statement:
To return the feel of Old School EQ to the game, as well as the community in which it was played. (This is why we must all consolidate onto a single server)
Plan:
1. We will decide on a server (I'd like FV for the RP value, but it only allows 1 character on it and many wouldn't delete a char to make a new one. And I wouldn't expect them to delete an old char.)
2. We will all create a new char, skip the tutorial, hail the POK girl if you desire, and take a book to your original start city for your race. If you wanna come to EC and you are in Kaladim.... Hmm start walking and seeking ports. (not sure if the boats will ever work properly again, but, that's life I guss)
3. Join one of the guilds that are affiliated with the Old School Movement and begin playing.
4. NO PL'ing
5. NO Twinking
6. Prefer if we were to buy only from affiliated guilds that are doing the old school only thing as well. but that's your guilds choice.
7. Get those tradeskills rolling, and start selling that well sought after Bronze armor. ,/SNICKER
8. Try our very best to only use items that drop in the old school content.
9. Stay in Old School Content (this is someting we will discuss as a group of guilds, as to what we call old school. I'd say stop at velious, but some feel since Verant did alot of the Shadows of Luclin Expansion that we should use that. I'm easy really, I can go for either, we can decide as a group if you like.)
10. We can decide if we want to allow the newer spells and class/race in it as well, such as frogluk and vahshir, beasts and zerkers. Frogluks new city places them in old school content, and the beast and the zerker can be used by old school races, so again, we can decide.
Thats about the basic concept.... To recreate an OLD SCHOOL server within an exsisting Server. Sure, its not 100% the same as the old days, but we can sure relive them as close as possible. If everyoe follows the basic rules, we should be very close to the orignal game. If we buy only from affiliated guilds, the economy will be self structured, and we can all pay that 2 pp for banded again /LOL. We can discuss using only old school recipes or not, it can get pretty detailed, but we will decide as a group to be fair I think. I will be creating a guild, and I would LOVE to hear from you if you would like to join.
If you are currently in a guild doing similar things, please consider joining us as a full guild. Yes, we'd ask that you restart new chrs just to place us all at the same basic spot with the same rules. We could keep the chrs to level 5 or lower just for the innitial start up date, then carry on like we used to and level and more importantly HAVE FUN!!!! Its not so much a race to the top anymore, we have all seen TIME enough times by now. Lets just have fun and raid old school content..... FEAR the CHARDOK ! :-)
Please email me if you would like to join m guild, Affiliate your current guild and be willing to make the server move, or wishing to create a guild of your own to affiliate with us, and follow those basic concepts. If we ALL go to the Same server, the MSG will reach SONY faster. Not to mention, we will be able to actually find groups etc. instead of being spread to the 4 winds like we are now acrossed all those servers.
Sure, there is room for improvment here, so lets chat about it.
Email me at ajin_antonic@hotmail.com or in the game on Quellious to AJIN or to PITBUL.
Spread the word, link the thread, drag in your old buddies, lets get the veterans back in and raid Befallen :-)
Any emails welcome, whether you agree with the concept or are opposed to it.
AJIN ANTONIC
Battle Cleric of Brell
ajin_antonic@hotmail.com
Edited, Sun Jan 8 09:29:51 2006 by AJIN
Edited, Sun Jan 8 09:38:17 2006 by AJIN
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Good Luck with your endeavor.
If you have a powerful macintosh computer (well powerful as in a higher end G4 with a good video card) you could always try Everquest for Macinitosh. It only goes up to POP expansion wise and its even cheaper per month.
I had really thought about that but then I priced a PC that could run it, damn apple computers are expensive compared to a PC.
I had really thought about that but then I priced a PC that could run it, damn apple computers are expensive compared to a PC.
Hi
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Do you miss hearing "CAMP CHECK".... "ORC 1"?
or Riding the boat?
or Riding the boat?
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Begging for ports (well it sucked but it was part of it)
FayMart and EC Tunnel Bazaars? (all on me for sale - at Torch 1)
How about being chased down by those orcs and lions and running to a guard or EC tunnel for help?
FayMart and EC Tunnel Bazaars? (all on me for sale - at Torch 1)
How about being chased down by those orcs and lions and running to a guard or EC tunnel for help?
But if you do enjoy that then good luck, personally i think it would get very old, very quickly.
Edited, Sun Jan 8 13:25:14 2006 by tarv
Yawn. That's what? The 100th? 1000th? post saying this that I have seen.
Have fun, play the game however you wish.
Have fun, play the game however you wish.
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I beg to differ, All posts seem to talk about making aguild to do this. I am talking about consolidating all these type og guilds onto a single server, all start new chrs, and simply play within that community. Not just my guild, ALL guilds that are desiring Old School Only play. I think most posts discuss how it would be nice to get a new server. I am offering an OPTION to wishing for a Server, Im offering the ability for us to simply designate a server ourselves and all go to it and play there. If we are all in one place, its easier to find groups etc..
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yeah we all miss it but i dont think you could keep the new game out quite that easily
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Yawn. That's what? The 100th? 1000th? post saying this that I have seen.
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I beg to differ, All posts seem to talk about making aguild to do this. I am talking about consolidating all these type og guilds onto a single server,
... actually you are both right. Weve seen probably 20 of each. Although there seems to be a lagre number of people who seem to want this to happen there is virtually no chance of SOE adding a sever when they are merging/deleting servers for lack of interest.
Good luck with your quest I would suggest maybe starting a guild that has certain rules that fit what you are looking for.
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Aye, I agree, I have created AJIN on Cazic Thule, and requested a Guild Creation. I hope other guilds from other servers would come and reform their guild on CT or join mine or another guild. Im not really looking to run a guild, Ive done that before, I just wanna recapture some of the good old days of grinding in LoIO or SF, GD, EC WC Befallen - you get the pic, without all the twinking and modern gear, or stuff. It might not work, but if we dont try, it definitely wont.
Thanks for the best wishes, and anyone wanting to join - please email me
ajin_antonic@hotmail.com
ATM seems like CT will be the server, I ask all to make a chr and send the name to me - or your guild name if you are making a guild for this.
Thanks for the best wishes, and anyone wanting to join - please email me
ajin_antonic@hotmail.com
ATM seems like CT will be the server, I ask all to make a chr and send the name to me - or your guild name if you are making a guild for this.
I agree in the fact that this would get old in a hurry. While I too, have been playing since 1999, and admit that the mystery and awe of the game has long gone...it has been replaced with ease and familiarity.
Riding the boat sucked.
Running across WK sucked.
Having to beg **** head druids for ports sucked.
While I miss the EC tunnel, the bazaar is incredibl easier.
Progress happens whether you like it or not. PoK was a fantastic addition to the game, as were the luclin spires before that. While some things have lessened the game (monster missions like the one in high pass) the gmae has evolved into something better thna it was.
Also, i would request that you forget thinking about using FV for this idea. I play on FV and the community there would ridicule your idea...and if you come up with something stupid enough to get picked on by the fV crowd then you have truly come up with a gem of idiocy.
In closing, while people tolerate the amish and find them interesting, no one flocks out to join them.
Tacosid
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Riding the boat sucked.
Running across WK sucked.
Having to beg **** head druids for ports sucked.
While I miss the EC tunnel, the bazaar is incredibl easier.
Progress happens whether you like it or not. PoK was a fantastic addition to the game, as were the luclin spires before that. While some things have lessened the game (monster missions like the one in high pass) the gmae has evolved into something better thna it was.
Also, i would request that you forget thinking about using FV for this idea. I play on FV and the community there would ridicule your idea...and if you come up with something stupid enough to get picked on by the fV crowd then you have truly come up with a gem of idiocy.
In closing, while people tolerate the amish and find them interesting, no one flocks out to join them.
Tacosid
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I voted for the other guy.
There have been a few guilds started up with rules restricting members to "old school" content. Looks like one I had followed a bit, Days of Old folded.
There is one interesting comment though in one of the threads. In the last expansion we were given access to a 'new' EQ place - Escape to Norrath was created to bring in new players I guess. There are no fees or something for the first 30 days maybe - not sure. I've never run the program though it's loaded into my EQ files since DoDH. From what I understand it is only the first three expansions. Maybe something to check out???
There is one interesting comment though in one of the threads. In the last expansion we were given access to a 'new' EQ place - Escape to Norrath was created to bring in new players I guess. There are no fees or something for the first 30 days maybe - not sure. I've never run the program though it's loaded into my EQ files since DoDH. From what I understand it is only the first three expansions. Maybe something to check out???
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
It's been done before and always inevitably fails. Remember that progression drives this game. Even back then people played the way they did because that is the best that was available. The game has changed and it will never be the same as it once was. I hope your guild works out but trying to send SOE a message is a waste of time.
Any server they do create will be great for about 2 months. After that there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to do and go back to their old servers. You will end up with 2 high level guilds fighting over the limited high level content and a handfull of casual players that can never find a group. Meanwhile, you will have another 1 off server that SOE has to spend development time writing customized patches for. The demise of legends and the PVP servers is proof that special rulesets just don't appeal to enough people long enough to be feasible
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Aude Sapere
Oh hell camp me all you want f**kers. I own this site and thus I own you. - Allakhazam
Tacosid wrote:
In closing, while people tolerate the amish and find them interesting, no one flocks out to join them.
LOL
I am an ex "Days of Old" member. I created two toons just for that purpose. We could never maintain a critical mass of players. The players we had were great, and very proficient at their classes.
Although many players talk the talk, not many want to walk the walk, so to speak. There is also a wide range of views on what constitutes old school, which leads to strife. I actually quit the game after Kunark came out - I was/am a Monk. Was VERY upset about the new fangled Monk weapons.
I do wish you well, and I hope it works out for you folks. It might just work if you can get all the old school players game wide on one server. Good Luck.
Although many players talk the talk, not many want to walk the walk, so to speak. There is also a wide range of views on what constitutes old school, which leads to strife. I actually quit the game after Kunark came out - I was/am a Monk. Was VERY upset about the new fangled Monk weapons.
I do wish you well, and I hope it works out for you folks. It might just work if you can get all the old school players game wide on one server. Good Luck.
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Looks like one I had followed a bit, Days of Old folded.
I was actually just going to post to the OP that Days of Old sounds like it might have ben the place for him to try. Sorry to hear that they went down - I considered joining them for a bit, myself, but I can understand why it happened that way.
I have made a few toons on the Test Server and I have been having a blast there, on roughly these same lines. While there are fewer toons on there, the bazaar is almost dead so it's almost impossible to plat-twink a toon, and the zones are usually underpopulated, so it is very solo-friendly. The only serious negative I have is the server is, understandably, more unstable the the others. Good luck with attempt!
Excellent description of all current servers :)
there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to doYou will end up with 2 high level guilds fighting over the limited high level content and a handfull of casual players that can never find a group.
Edited, Mon Jan 9 23:17:11 2006 by Reyla
there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to doYou will end up with 2 high level guilds fighting over the limited high level content and a handfull of casual players that can never find a group.
Edited, Mon Jan 9 23:17:11 2006 by Reyla
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
LOL reyla.
Dont forget some dumbass halfass rotation on qvic or something lol
Dont forget some dumbass halfass rotation on qvic or something lol
No matter how many times I read these kinds of posts - I just don't get it. Why? Why would you want to go back to the way things were?
It's like walking into Bestbuy and saying to the clerk, hey this Pentium 4 3.6 GHZ laptop is really nice but what I'd really like is an IBM 5155 with DoS cuz windows just has too much clicking. Oh and can you throw in the roll-about suitcase with that?
Edited, Tue Jan 10 01:15:50 2006 by Netos
It's like walking into Bestbuy and saying to the clerk, hey this Pentium 4 3.6 GHZ laptop is really nice but what I'd really like is an IBM 5155 with DoS cuz windows just has too much clicking. Oh and can you throw in the roll-about suitcase with that?
Edited, Tue Jan 10 01:15:50 2006 by Netos
I've tried joining in on these things 3 times and they've all failed. It will never work.
I also agree completely with this.
There is ONE idea that could work.
A server that starts from Day One of EQ (Go Go Classic people), but still progresses into the game.
The encounters have been beaten and the strats for everything are all there to be used so the content would be chewed up and spit out at an alarming rate.
So with that being the case, every 5 months add the next expansion.
I personally think SOE would get a TON of old subscribers back for this type of thing ($$$) and it would give all of the classic supporters the chance to relive the old days. Plus you damn sure know there will be a TON of people wanting to be the first guilds to beat the encounters and be #1 as they move through the expansions, which creates the support needed to maintain a healthy server.
Eventually the server should catch up to all the current servers, but that would be long enough down the line that it's a non issue really.
This evolving type of server could work and something that I think would be fun to do. Maybe that movement could be started instead of this Velious or Bust type of discussion.
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It's been done before and always inevitably fails. Remember that progression drives this game. Even back then people played the way they did because that is the best that was available. The game has changed and it will never be the same as it once was. I hope your guild works out but trying to send SOE a message is a waste of time.
Any server they do create will be great for about 2 months. After that there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to do and go back to their old servers.
Any server they do create will be great for about 2 months. After that there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to do and go back to their old servers.
I also agree completely with this.
There is ONE idea that could work.
A server that starts from Day One of EQ (Go Go Classic people), but still progresses into the game.
The encounters have been beaten and the strats for everything are all there to be used so the content would be chewed up and spit out at an alarming rate.
So with that being the case, every 5 months add the next expansion.
I personally think SOE would get a TON of old subscribers back for this type of thing ($$$) and it would give all of the classic supporters the chance to relive the old days. Plus you damn sure know there will be a TON of people wanting to be the first guilds to beat the encounters and be #1 as they move through the expansions, which creates the support needed to maintain a healthy server.
Eventually the server should catch up to all the current servers, but that would be long enough down the line that it's a non issue really.
This evolving type of server could work and something that I think would be fun to do. Maybe that movement could be started instead of this Velious or Bust type of discussion.
Lord Symbius wrote:
I've tried joining in on these things 3 times and they've all failed. It will never work.
I also agree completely with this.
There is ONE idea that could work.
A server that starts from Day One of EQ (Go Go Classic people), but still progresses into the game.
The encounters have been beaten and the strats for everything are all there to be used so the content would be chewed up and spit out at an alarming rate.
So with that being the case, every 5 months add the next expansion.
I personally think SOE would get a TON of old subscribers back for this type of thing ($$$) and it would give all of the classic supporters the chance to relive the old days. Plus you damn sure know there will be a TON of people wanting to be the first guilds to beat the encounters and be #1 as they move through the expansions, which creates the support needed to maintain a healthy server.
Eventually the server should catch up to all the current servers, but that would be long enough down the line that it's a non issue really.
This evolving type of server could work and something that I think would be fun to do. Maybe that movement could be started instead of this Velious or Bust type of discussion.
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It's been done before and always inevitably fails. Remember that progression drives this game. Even back then people played the way they did because that is the best that was available. The game has changed and it will never be the same as it once was. I hope your guild works out but trying to send SOE a message is a waste of time.
Any server they do create will be great for about 2 months. After that there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to do and go back to their old servers.
Any server they do create will be great for about 2 months. After that there will be two or three max level guilds completely monopolizing the content. The people that you are trying to attract will get sick of being maxxed out and having nothing to do and go back to their old servers.
I also agree completely with this.
There is ONE idea that could work.
A server that starts from Day One of EQ (Go Go Classic people), but still progresses into the game.
The encounters have been beaten and the strats for everything are all there to be used so the content would be chewed up and spit out at an alarming rate.
So with that being the case, every 5 months add the next expansion.
I personally think SOE would get a TON of old subscribers back for this type of thing ($$$) and it would give all of the classic supporters the chance to relive the old days. Plus you damn sure know there will be a TON of people wanting to be the first guilds to beat the encounters and be #1 as they move through the expansions, which creates the support needed to maintain a healthy server.
Eventually the server should catch up to all the current servers, but that would be long enough down the line that it's a non issue really.
This evolving type of server could work and something that I think would be fun to do. Maybe that movement could be started instead of this Velious or Bust type of discussion.
I still don't see this happening. Everquest's code has changed a lot graphic and otherwise. You're asking SOE to setup a sort of special rules server that will need to be carefully handle with implementing old and new code. This is highly unlikely.
yawn...
Unless you and the 37 other people who want to see this give SOE a million bucks each it wont happen.
There might be a couple thousand who might want to do this for a day or two, but that's it.
Perhaps you would have better luck convincing SOE to make Instanced Zones where you can become old-time EQ characters and take on old-time EQ objectives. Ah yes, expansion #234, Lords and Maidens Eraced. Journey back in time to when Norrath was created...fight weak bosses with even weaker equipment...rush naked into Crushbone, Befallen, and Blackburrow, using only the equipment you can pry off the dead! LaME takes you back to the good old days, when toons were toons and mobs were nervious...
Unless you and the 37 other people who want to see this give SOE a million bucks each it wont happen.
There might be a couple thousand who might want to do this for a day or two, but that's it.
Perhaps you would have better luck convincing SOE to make Instanced Zones where you can become old-time EQ characters and take on old-time EQ objectives. Ah yes, expansion #234, Lords and Maidens Eraced. Journey back in time to when Norrath was created...fight weak bosses with even weaker equipment...rush naked into Crushbone, Befallen, and Blackburrow, using only the equipment you can pry off the dead! LaME takes you back to the good old days, when toons were toons and mobs were nervious...
Dothammer wrote:
yawn...
...fight weak bosses with even weaker equipment...rush naked into Crushbone, Befallen, and Blackburrow, using only the equipment you can pry off the dead!
...fight weak bosses with even weaker equipment...rush naked into Crushbone, Befallen, and Blackburrow, using only the equipment you can pry off the dead!
Let's see how good you really are.
Really the difficulties of mobs versus equipment is a question of relevency. Things are NOT that easy in EQ now. Were they harder before? I don't think fighting the mobs was harder. What was harder was getting to the location, waiting in line to camp a mob, CR's and various other non-combat tasks.
I do think the lore has been watered down along the way but that's likely just a side effect of age.
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
Since necro-posting seems to be all the rage...I'm jumping right in.
This post was one of many, here and across the EQ community forums, that spurred creation the progression servers.
So, some 1.5 years later whats the verdict? Were they a success? Were people able to recapture the challenge, the excitement? Did you again experience that bit of fear during your first trip from Qeynos to Freeport as a newb. Was that sense of adventure there waiting for you in the Karana's and the Commonlands?
Who played on the progression servers? who still plays?
I was really pretty excited about the Combine when it opened up and made sure I was right there on day one. Lol, I couldn't handle the crowds of day one, but stuck it out to see a druid to level 14. Quite frankly, I was happy to come back to port books, potions and SUMMONING STONES.
I haven't kept up on the progression of the progression serves, but am aware that the two combined to the Combine.
Was the whole idea of trying to recreate EQ's earlier days successful?
Oh yeah...WOOT, its FRIDAY!!
Edited, Apr 20th 2007 4:43pm by Elinda
This post was one of many, here and across the EQ community forums, that spurred creation the progression servers.
So, some 1.5 years later whats the verdict? Were they a success? Were people able to recapture the challenge, the excitement? Did you again experience that bit of fear during your first trip from Qeynos to Freeport as a newb. Was that sense of adventure there waiting for you in the Karana's and the Commonlands?
Who played on the progression servers? who still plays?
I was really pretty excited about the Combine when it opened up and made sure I was right there on day one. Lol, I couldn't handle the crowds of day one, but stuck it out to see a druid to level 14. Quite frankly, I was happy to come back to port books, potions and SUMMONING STONES.
I haven't kept up on the progression of the progression serves, but am aware that the two combined to the Combine.
Was the whole idea of trying to recreate EQ's earlier days successful?
Oh yeah...WOOT, its FRIDAY!!
Edited, Apr 20th 2007 4:43pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
I have very fond memories of my newbie days and way things were. However I didn't last 30 mins on the Progression servers when they came out. Things change, it was years ago the game was 'that' way. I still enjoy the game just as much as I did way back then and wouldn't want to go back and re-live the old days.
Just come join the combine. OoW isn't out yet, plenty of low lvls to group with. Not much uber gear, heck I was using my newbie armor for awhile!
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