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I see it as my duty to nuke the monster dead as soon as I see Chlorr's dots land.

I knew it! Ooooh, you're in trouble now.

This is a very good point (jeb had others too, I just want to chat about this one atm).

Most people share parses of their absolute best parse. For necros that's a mob that's a straight dps fight, has no adds, does not depop and repop, and on which every single spell line lands. Honestly there's not too many of those out there, and when our spells get resisted that's not only a significant loss of DPS (no partial damage on resist), but it hurts the ramp up time and costs us a good chunk of mana.

Take say Noqufiel in Inktu'ta for instance. After the True Image spawns you have maybe 30 seconds or so to damage him before he despawns and respawns as twins, so we are effectively limited to landing nukes for DPS, which kills our DPS. Take other encounters like PoTime gods where mobs spawn adds at fixed %'s and the raid needs to switch dps to kill the unmezzable adds before pushing the mob to the next % level, in those cases your parse on the single raid target (or even the adds) is going to sucks, since you simply stop DPSing it, and even hold back so as not to do too much to push it to a new % and spawn more adds that the raid isn't ready for yet. On say Msha's and other named in Qvic I'm lucky to break 1/4th of my max possible dps due to resistances... There nukers can just chose a line that works, it may be less mana efficient, but they can still do similar DPS.

And given that our DPS has a ramp up phase to it, any mob that doesn't live at least 1.5 minute or more is going to have a low DPS parse, so we're effectively going to exhibit horrid DPS on trash, where nuking is the best we'll be able to do.

Oh my god Jeb, stop gaying up this thread with facts.

This thread is about angst!

I hate that my guild wins encounters, lets make sure no one can out DPS ME!

It's all about me! (Damn I wish I coulda got that guild name)

I dont mean pumping a cleric from OOM to full(you cant do it it's a waste to even think about it =p) but if you can give the cleric with the least amount of mana enough for 2 CHs or even 1 that keeps the chain from breaking and keeps the warrior up......and every second that the tank is up means one more second of 15k DPS....so for 10 seconds you might not do (for sake of arguement lets you are doing 800dps) 8000 damage but you will have helped keep the tank up allowing the raid to do 150k damage

true..........but then who would be left for the wizard group to MW =p

10 seconds is 1 cast of twitch (3 sec cast 8 sec refresh), though you could get both lines in there (same cast/recast no shared timers) for a grand total of 250 mana and costing the necro 700 mana (pre mp). That's not enough for a single CH let alone a PL or AHL. With 1 twitch, Sedulous, it takes 3 casts to get 450 mana to a clr, enough for a CH, and that's 25 seconds (not counting the final 8sec refresh for a 4th cast) and costing 1200 mana (pre mp). And if you even have both twitches loaded you're probably not doing 800dps due to lack of dps dots on the mob. Yes we need to stack lots of spells and keep them stacked in order to come close to maintaining high dps, with a lifetap nuke perhaps loaded for offsetting ae damage as needed.

However, twitching a CH chaining cleric can indeed prolong the fight significantly, and there are fights in which this is a very good strategy in whihc it's all about endurance, such as Xegony.

If wizards are so limited. Why not fix yourselves(or at least) propose ways to do so and let SoE accept or reject them.

If your car didn't work, you wouldn't tell your neighbor to rip his starter out "to be fair", that's retarded. You'd get your car fixed.

Why are you all being retarded?

Disclaimer: My use of the word retarded is due to lack of my complete mastery of any language(including english which is the only language I know). It is not meant to offend or hurt anyone in any way. However, if by chance..a wizard (or anyone else) calling for a nerf of any class(even his own) is offended, please take this opportunity to F O A D.

End Disclaimer.

Edited, Fri Dec 30 17:23:00 2005 by Jebasiz

It's not a hijack, it was in the OP!



And in the same thought, (this is to additionally point out the siliness of it) our mez stops at 70 works only on undead is short and often resisted and there's clearly trash now above 70, please nerf enchanters. Our fd breaks when spells land on us, unless you get very lucky with that horrid Dodh aa, please nerf monks. MW doesn't land on lots of stuff, please nerf shadow knights. Our pet cant tank wos named that well, please nerf mages and bst. Our nukes don't do enough damage, please nerf wizards and mages. Our heals are pathetic, please nerf druids, shamans, paladins, and clerics.

Seriously now, for none of that last paragraph was, it seems that one of the biggest problems wizzies now face is a scaling up in damage and thus agro throughout the expansions without an associated scaling up of some method by which to dump it. I mean Maelin's Leggings of Lore are great and all for a clicky Concussion freeing up a spell gem and not sharing the recast timers on the spell gems, and yeah you have Ancient Greater Concussion from GoD, a 50% increase, but GoD was a few expansions ago, and PoP is dusty by now. I see no reason why wizzies should not have a significant upgrade to that line which allows them to nuke more, and not have to ride that bleeding edge of agro like the really good ones now do.

EDIT:
ok, they'll still ride that fine line, but they'll be doing more dmaage while they do it :)

Edited, Fri Dec 30 18:37:09 2005 by Xislaben

And just to clear my take on SoEs views..........


Look and demiplane gear and tell me SoE doesn't love necros =p Hell it looks like it would be class specific gear FFS =p

who needs a Nerf!@!!!

Are you high? on something. We all pay this game to have fun, if u cant play your character cause u retarded, or your u want something else cause u think they are better, go make one and enjoy the thrills of having the toon u really wanted in the first place. Dont nerf anyone , this is stupid idea stupid post and stupid thread, why on earth would u want to nerf anyone , people like you got sony to rape bards they used to be cool now so few of them u can stack them in pok library with room to spare, Pooo on you bumbiragnar shut up and go make a necro if its so easy youll be a lvl 70 in no time, i wont hold my breath though cause i know u cant figure it out on your own .

You guys missed this for what it was, it was a cleverly written thread designed to whine about the class being played while ******** about a class that he thinks is too powerful.

Only one character type (in his mind) definately needs a boost...the one he plays...and only one needs to be nerfed, that being the one he seems to have a passionate dislike for.