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Well if you didn reply like you had 2 braincells and made something constructive then that wouldnt be the case.
Your replies are nothing but whine about "how little I know about the game" yet you show nothing about you having a clue about anything yourself. Your posts are just laughable and sad in this thread. So either go FO or post something constructive instead of personal attacks. kplsthx.

In your oringnal post you said



You start this thread by saying you only know wizard and that you know nothing about other classes, then you go and say that other people who know nothing shouldn't reply. If thats the case you shouldn't have posted this theard at all since you said know nothing expect wizards.

The problem with us wizards high end is that on paper we are what sony says we are, Best burst DPS in the game and second best DPS in the game(maybe thrid now behind zerkers) but in the actual game we suck. Maybe on a good day it everything goes right I'll pull off over 1k DPS on a short tacvi or Anguish fight but anything longer than 2-3 minutes and it goes to hell....fast. THe problem isn't spells(well it is but sony will never give us a fix for that a 2500-3000 base claw spell or dropping the mana to around 1150 for EF just wont happen) our problem is in the items. Yeah 50% focus nice 60% even better great now what.....Casters need +effect items like meleers do(Items with say +x% chance to crit +x% chance to strike through a resist something like that).

As for the necros....ya they are crazy right now and should probably be nerfed...big time.. but they keep their dps a secret >_> so i don't really care =p

Nerf Mage's also.

Mages are gimped right now
They are like wizard-lite =/

Edited, Thu Dec 29 18:36:07 2005 by elorianBLAH

Necros are probably the only class in the game taht needs a nerf(maybe warriors as well)

Finally SoE realized what was needed!

eqplayers.station.sony.com/game_updates/game_updates.vm.htm

:P



Well most oppinions I have gotten throughout class boards are biased. I know that, and thats another reason I posted here, to get the perspective from people outside the people who whine about their own class. All I wanted was a healthy discussion.
But then the personal attacks begun. :(



Way to go quoteing out of context! What an idiot.. Yeah I retalliate personal attacks.. wru discussions in rl about eq where people dont act like 2 yearold with no braincells cause noone can "touch em". :/
Even tho this moronic post dont deserve a reply I will try.
I never said I knew NOTHING about other classes. Didnt even say anything close to that. I have played most classes but not any other class high end then wizard. I said much is based on hearsay, I didnt say MOST is based on hearsay. wtb reading comprehansion for some.
I got pissed at mentalfrog cause mostly his posts are very good but in this thread he started out by doing personal attacks at me and nothing constructive or informative when thats what I asked for. I never said people who didnt know anything shouldnt reply, I did basicly say, however, that anyone views are more then welcome and I wanted to see others oppinions with constructive and informative posts. Not personal attacks.
Same goes for you. Until you follow Mentalfrogs last post and do some a serious post about your oppinion then SU.
I dont mind that people find this thread totally crap, but instead of posting "you suck" I rather they either dont post at all or post why they think it sux.

Atleast I got a few decent posts in this thread from people. I hope more is inc!

So you generate a post, that you know full-well will create a long rant/sh*t storm over class balancing on hearsay, a few "ideal" parses and rumor? I don't even think tabloids would call any of your "sources" of information valid or creditable and they don't have high standards in either reguard.

A 2k dps parse? What'd that necro do, lifeburn a moss snake? 12k instant, guarenteed damage over the course of a single round fight...I've been playing a necro for five years, all of them raiding(until very recently..like 2months ago). That's the only way we're going to post a 2k dps parse.

Here's some truths; we *can* post over 1k parses on fights like Keledrix and FAKE Tunat. On mobs that we can land all 3 of our "high dps" dot lines we're a tough class to top damage-wise...it may not even be possible(by another caster), all things being equal (focii, aa, skill, group composition, secondary roles asked of the necromancer etc).

Here's the catch. SoE doesn't do much to limit our dps, except design content that is outragiously resistant to atleast one of those 3 lines.

Poison, is often hit or miss..yeah it's real nice when it lands, but it really sucks when it's resisted(we get no partial dots..it's all or nothing unlike a wizard).

Magic, ohh fear all 3 of our curse line of dots. Now fear the neg 30 resist check.

Fire is by far our most reliable line, and by itself we can do "ok" dps, add one of the other 2 and we're pretty damn happy(700-800dps).

We're not parsing 1k dps, without all 3 lines landing, and we're not sustaining that for more then 3-4mins without very few(read <10% resists.).*This happens only on keledrix and fake tunat(as I said before) with an consistency.* The zeks in phase 4 time are pretty good to, as are the avatar of elements and supernatural guardian in phase 3(even though they're dead fast as hell now). That spans almost 3 full years of content..I've named 5 encounters(2 of which are even vaguely pertinent). I can't speak for Blood. We rock on Vule. The other raids for the curse aa, we might as well not even show up.

Next time you feel like opening your mouth, don't. Asking for any class to be nerfed is just stupid, and it gets you/your class nowhere.

Now go cry about something else you know nothing about.

Rangers - Boost

Should get gate at least, if not self ports. Comeon, part druid. And much better mitigation. Comeon, part warrior.

Enchanters - Boost

Clerics - Boost

Druids - Boost

All others - NERF, NERF, NERF

There, all fixed.

:lol

Alright how about redfang necros parse out again around 1k and he's a 12-14 minute fight or so same with hatchet.

Edited, Thu Dec 29 21:58:48 2005 by elorianBLAH

But since you want to bring up encounters. What about:

Ya'lir, Kessdona, Rikkukin, Every single last mob except fake tunat in Tacvi(only Xxeric is consistently decent for us there).

KTH, Hanvar, Jelvan, Ture, Cot9, Draygun?

I can name mobs too!

Quit crying.

Don't forget level ranges and PvP / PvE balancing .. if you manage to cover all that we'll dig up a few more categories and you can those


Nerf work, nerf the people that don't need to and the they rode in on

Only pure casters get gate.