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Edited, Wed Nov 9 04:26:13 2005 by changon
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Now I'm poor again - down to under 1k. Just bought Funeral Pyre of Kelador for 10.5k, the least I've seen in the Bazaar but not by much. For the past few weeks I've only ever seen 2 - 15k and 30k.
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how long did you take to get that much? Must had been years-- I can not seem to reach 20K point, forget 100,000 or 1 mill
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Being in an active raiding guild, killing mobs for loot in the high end zones of the game, means you need little or no PP to spend on gear (other than the occasional 10K for Qvic class gear, if that is your bag, or similar "costly" combines) - thus PP just tends to gather up in the bank slots, weather you want it too or not. 100PP there, 200PP here... Amulet of Necropotence from Fear for 500K just because you COULD solo the non-DT-golem etc etc... PP comes in faster than it goes out.
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Although being high level and guild status helps to attain money-friendly drops, you don't have to farm or level to be rich in EQ.
I'd love to know how you figure that. Killing for drops if the mobs give any experience at all, that's leveling. Killing for drops if you don't get experience from the mobs, that's farming. The only way to make money without doing either of those is either to buy plat online which is against the EULA, be given plat from a high level toon whether it's your main or a friend, or given high end items from said high end people to sell in the bazaar. In short, it takes money to make money. If you're going to farm anything you need to level first so you aren't just leveling. The only other way to make money without farming or leveling is to cast buffs in pok IF you're high enough level to have buffs people want and you're lucky enough to not have any competition and have people looking for those buffs. To get to that point you must....level!!!
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People make their own luck.
The only people who say you don't need money to make money, have money and either don't know, or don't remember, what's it like to be lower level and not have any. And, by the way, it's still luck of the draw on when drops actually drop. For example, 2 people can go to farm the same mobs at the same camps in the same zones for the same amount of time on different days, and one person maybe gets about half the drops the other person gets. The lucky people are the ones who get the most drops. The unlucky people are the others who dont' get the drops. There's no skill involving getting the drops beyond being lucky. That's even true with the common drops like the heads and blood of gobbies. Because they don't drop off every single gobby.
As for buying low and selling high, many people don't have the luck to be able to do that successfully. Too many times you buy low, put on your trader, set the lowest price around (still higher than you paid of course), and look at it staying in your bags for years to end up selling to npcs at a loss. And yes, that's including adjusting your prices to stay the lowest. Because you have to be lucky to have your trader on when someone is wanting to buy that particular item.
Maybe you people who have the money to not need luck have forgotten those little facts. Or maybe you just don't beleive in luck or Murphey's Law. Don't tell lower level, poorer people that they just don't want to make money when they don't have the same resources you high levels in the high end guilds do, just because you have the money to make the money. Not to mention the level 70s in WK and Unrest lately farming the pumpkin stuff, KSing the lower levels, just to be greedy and sell those things for rediculous prices in the bazaar and making it so only the high levels and those who buy their plat can even do the events.
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I'd love to know how you figure that. Killing for drops if the mobs give any experience at all, that's leveling. Killing for drops if you don't get experience from the mobs, that's farming. The only way to make money without doing either of those is either to buy plat online which is against the EULA, be given plat from a high level toon whether it's your main or a friend, or given high end items from said high end people to sell in the bazaar. In short, it takes money to make money. If you're going to farm anything you need to level first so you aren't just leveling. The only other way to make money without farming or leveling is to cast buffs in pok IF you're high enough level to have buffs people want and you're lucky enough to not have any competition and have people looking for those buffs. To get to that point you must....level!!!
or... buy low and sell high. I've turned 100 plat (easy to get with silks) in to 100,000 before, without the aid of a high level character, the last time I wanted to switch servers.
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The only people who say you don't need money to make money, have money and either don't know, or don't remember, what's it like to be lower level and not have any.
yeah, I do. I also remember what it's like to farm HQ bear skins and then spend a day or two with the resultant plat playing the ec market. (bag of items for sale at torch 1, hail to see!)
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. For example, 2 people can go to farm the same mobs at the same camps in the same zones for the same amount of time on different days, and one person maybe gets about half the drops the other person gets. The lucky people are the ones who get the most drops. The unlucky people are the others who dont' get the drops. There's no skill involving getting the drops beyond being lucky. That's even true with the common drops like the heads and blood of gobbies. Because they don't drop off every single gobby.
persistance pays off. with common cash drops like heads and bloods, they drop commonly enough that it's quite unlikely for you to be 'unlucky' for very long at all.
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As for buying low and selling high, many people don't have the luck to be able to do that successfully. Too many times you buy low, put on your trader, set the lowest price around (still higher than you paid of course), and look at it staying in your bags for years to end up selling to npcs at a loss. And yes, that's including adjusting your prices to stay the lowest. Because you have to be lucky to have your trader on when someone is wanting to buy that particular item.
it is not luck. buying low and selling high doesnt just mean buying a random item. it means spending time, and learning the market. I can count on two hands the numbers of times I've made really bad market decisions, and I've spent a lot of time doing it. (Heh. I sold my LSOEE the day before the quest was nerfed out of existance. OUCH.)
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Don't tell lower level, poorer people that they just don't want to make money
I never said you didn't want to make money. I said if you put more effort in to it, you would make money. this is true.
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just because you have the money to make the money.
I have many, many, MANY times, started on a different server, or even restarted on the same server with nothing.. spent some time on it, and turned out well geared.
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Not to mention the level 70s in WK and Unrest lately farming the pumpkin stuff, KSing the lower levels, just to be greedy and sell those things for rediculous prices in the bazaar and making it so only the high levels and those who buy their plat can even do the events.
you whine a lot. these events arent the end all. and they aren't being farmed constantly. If someones farming them one hour... come back the next.
you whine a lot. GFY.
Edited, Wed Nov 9 20:15:15 2005 by Groogle
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you whine a lot. these events arent the end all. and they aren't being farmed constantly.
Actually Sir Groogle, I agreed with everything you just said, except for this. At least on my server, unrest is being farmed constantly. Go there 2am? Farmed. Go there 9am? Noon? Midnight? Farmed. Bet your bottom dollar. I just bought my stuff in bazaar because I didn't feel like getting involved in the freeforall ks-fest.
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As for buying low and selling high, many people don't have the luck to be able to do that successfully. Too many times you buy low, put on your trader, set the lowest price around (still higher than you paid of course), and look at it staying in your bags for years to end up selling to npcs at a loss. And yes, that's including adjusting your prices to stay the lowest. Because you have to be lucky to have your trader on when someone is wanting to buy that particular item.
No Fish For You!
You must play a Dwarf in game! Do you keep noobs stored under mushrooms filling them with your horse ****?
When I say buy low, sell high. I am not talking common items like halas meat pies, radiant cristals, or the new leg stretching money maker "Fizzlepops Formula 500's" where you do the free port run and head back and stock up your trader hoping some high end player will be too lazy to go get it themselves.
Don't use sp and gp annalogies to compare to kpp tactics. Remember when "Festive Dolls" were almost hot as twink items?
Thats right their not now and never really were all that great.
You have to actively shop, check prices.
What are blades of carnage going for on your server?
What about blade of disruption?
Eyeshiv of darkness? That was my best buy 750plat, and sold it for 75,000pp and the guy was not in vendor mode!
Look for the top end semi rare items!!
Save your PP up make a smart buy, turn it around, yes it may take a week or two, but hold the price to what you originally decided, it will hit. Then instead of getting full of yourself because you have some phat plat in your pockets, make another smart buy, once you have made a few, you can start cutting yourself in on the profits, but leaving vendors change alone so you can continue to make smart buys.
Thats the easiest way, or you can go grind for hours for silks, velium, and no xp?
Your call.
Scholar
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Who wants to do all that market crap? For my part, the best aspect of the game is going out and adventuring. That's why I've never had more than 1500pp. I've never spent more than 180 in the Bazaar either. I want to earn my gear.
Scholar
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I am usually out of plat. Get a few plague rat tails and some greenblood drops, cash them in with a merchant. Sold 20 spider silks this week in the bazaar, that was a major jump in plat.
i don't get in groups that go to the high end places much either... but there are some people in my guild who enjoy my company, and like that i'm a dependable cleric, so they do what they can to upgrade what i need upgraded. and i swear, i just love bein around them, but the upgrades help me help them even more. :)
I have a little over 4 million in actual pp and with droppable stuff on twinks/trader i'd say closer to a good 8-9million.
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The only people who say you don't need money to make money, have money and either don't know, or don't remember, what's it like to be lower level and not have any. And, by the way, it's still luck of the draw on when drops actually drop. For example, 2 people can go to farm the same mobs at the same camps in the same zones for the same amount of time on different days, and one person maybe gets about half the drops the other person gets. The lucky people are the ones who get the most drops. The unlucky people are the others who dont' get the drops. There's no skill involving getting the drops beyond being lucky. That's even true with the common drops like the heads and blood of gobbies. Because they don't drop off every single gobby.
What you say is Rubbish.
Researching your market and finding out what sells is how to make money. If that is spider silks or bonechips up to Qvic muramite armour.
I have started characters on other servers and started with nothing and ended up with money to pay for all spells and equipment as I level. I do this by selling what I drop and only levelling where I can gain sellable tradeskill items.
One example, I know that a necro friend sometimes has to farm bonechips for his pets as on FV, hardly anyone sells bonechips in the bazaar. He and other necros will happily pay a platinum or more per bonechip. This is true on so many servers. If I were to start over, I would happily kill in Kurns tower and gain my bonechips and level while making lots of platinum selling to necros in the bazaar.
Is that luck? Or just research and knowing a market? And please, do not try to tell me a bonechip is a rare drop
And as you level, and as what you can kill changes, so does what you can gain in loot and your target market. If you pay attention you can keep gaining lots of platinum all the time. This is not luck, it is research.
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And as you level, and as what you can kill changes, so does what you can gain in loot and your target market. If you pay attention you can keep gaining lots of platinum all the time. This is not luck, it is research.
While I agree with you 100%.
If your smart enough to make platinum in the bazaar, your smart enough to realize that the person arguing that the only way to make money is to have it already, is attempting to excuse himself for his lack of initiative, while ralling peers with a similar voice to his side.
You know that old statement"teach a man to fish and he is fed for a life time" or how ever it goes?
Rubbish!! That guy will 9 out of 10 times come back to you next time he is hungry and ask for more fishing gear and another fish. Its just flat out human nature. So instead of wasting your breath saying here is how you do it, just toss him a fish for a small chore, once its done correctly, so you get something out of it too.
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I spend most of my days multi boxing my own group in various places and raiding at night. My all time high was 19.4 million, i stay somewhere around 1-1.5 now. I found some VERY creative ways to spend it! If you dont think you can buy any upgrades in the bazaar, your right. but be creative, think of real life. Money makes the world go round, and you can get ANYTHING you want for the right price! just an FYI because i dont see many people doing what i do, or doin git successfully.
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I know a certain bard with 11.6k hp who has never raided a day in his life
Name and server witheld to prevent the spam tells asking for a loan
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I know a certain bard with 11.6k hp who has never raided a day in his life
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Just a few thousand under 400k on me atm, could probably top 750k with all the crap I could sell on my alts. Would've been 1.5mil or higher if I didn't spend 1.2 mil getting two DE masks from the casino, lol
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I make around 200-500kpp a day on average. Mainly spending on twink gear, helping other people, or selling $$$ :D
Scholar
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I usually feel poor if I have less than 5 million in the bank. Thats liquid as I would estimate another 2 million in gear stored on various mules. However, finishing off all of my trade skills to 300 in each brought me down at one point to 500k. I am now on the road to recovery and have a little over 2 million banked. Starting to feel whole again.
Honorable President Bush,
Thank you for your leadership, courage and commitment in protecting the American People.
Thank you for your leadership, courage and commitment in protecting the American People.
Plat is so easy to come by if your willing to set aside the time and energy to reduce the maximium output on EXP. The biggest problem most people have is they ONLY want to goto high yield xp zones. The problem with this is that those zones usually have low platinum returns or losses. Now say for example you xp in RSS, what can you really sell there unless some random player is willing to pay for your rotting runes / no drop gear. Now move yourself to say RCOD and you go around a pick up a camp there. Random items, quest pieces, and droppable runes occur. Well now you have cash waiting to be spent. I don't know about you all but I can only use so many of any particular type of rune. On Fennin Ro runes go fast and for at least 10-20k with little to no effort.
I am not a price gouger I am the guy that floods the market with subpar prices to **** those people off. I sell my items in instant sell price lines, why well I don't care if I have 100 million plat today. I need back space for my quests and tradeskills. I just need the plat to do that and to have money to make what ever alt I want geared the way I want it.
So that said plat is on trees in everquest, its the ingenuitive XP'r and questers that make money. Yes the tradeskill kings and queens make plat too on a higher level but you to can have several hundred thousand plat with very little effort in a zones where few people will hunt because the xp isn't the highest yield.
I am not a price gouger I am the guy that floods the market with subpar prices to **** those people off. I sell my items in instant sell price lines, why well I don't care if I have 100 million plat today. I need back space for my quests and tradeskills. I just need the plat to do that and to have money to make what ever alt I want geared the way I want it.
So that said plat is on trees in everquest, its the ingenuitive XP'r and questers that make money. Yes the tradeskill kings and queens make plat too on a higher level but you to can have several hundred thousand plat with very little effort in a zones where few people will hunt because the xp isn't the highest yield.
In days gone by, I remember the flowers and the sky
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I have just over 200k in the bank atm. I don't actively farm stuff for plat, I just dump surplus on my trader as it arrives. I do however keep an eye out for opportunities, like when I was skilling up Baking I made the GoD foods that people need for alternative Qvic access, those sold very well. Likewise while factioning in Sebilis for my wood elf hat, Nodding Blue Lillies were a nice easy way to make bazaar plat.
At this point in the game, there isn't anything I want to buy with plat really. My biggest expense is moving augments around as I upgrade gear (4kpp a shot for CoA augs). I dropped 100k on spells for my cleric bot a few months ago, but I can't be bothered to buy cultural armor or OoW augs for alts, especialy when I can gear them (only 1 bot i actualy play) by XPing in DoN missions. The only thing I'd really like to spend plat on is a DE mask, but F spending the time dropping tokens into the Casino dude. It's just not a fun way to spend my online time.
At this point in the game, there isn't anything I want to buy with plat really. My biggest expense is moving augments around as I upgrade gear (4kpp a shot for CoA augs). I dropped 100k on spells for my cleric bot a few months ago, but I can't be bothered to buy cultural armor or OoW augs for alts, especialy when I can gear them (only 1 bot i actualy play) by XPing in DoN missions. The only thing I'd really like to spend plat on is a DE mask, but F spending the time dropping tokens into the Casino dude. It's just not a fun way to spend my online time.
Have retired now but have a few hundred K left in the bank.. generally I sell my plat off to IGE once they are offering a decent rate.
I never went particularly hard out making money, 1 million plat in 6 weeks was about my best effort.. Its really not hard if you put your mind to it.
I never went particularly hard out making money, 1 million plat in 6 weeks was about my best effort.. Its really not hard if you put your mind to it.
18 mil.
five traders running 24x7
no macros.
Thankyou eqecon.
five traders running 24x7
no macros.
Thankyou eqecon.
I have a bit over 2 million plat worth of armor, gear, auguments, and various things to play with on my lvl 70 Cleric. Problem is.. 90% of the stuff is NO TRADE! and cannot be tributed. That really annoys me to no end.
I don't spend any time in PoK pimping Conviction for donations because most people offer the same donation for Conviction that they do for Temperance. Of couse, anyone in my experience group gets any buff I can cast on them.
I rarely have over 50K in cash at anyone one time. Most of that goes to buying:
1. gems for reagents, Clarity X potions, Cloudy potions for invisibility, Speed potions, Heal Over Time potions for myself
2.The bottomless hole that spell runes cost
3.Occasionally I have cash to spend on tradeskilling.
I don't spend any time in PoK pimping Conviction for donations because most people offer the same donation for Conviction that they do for Temperance. Of couse, anyone in my experience group gets any buff I can cast on them.
I rarely have over 50K in cash at anyone one time. Most of that goes to buying:
1. gems for reagents, Clarity X potions, Cloudy potions for invisibility, Speed potions, Heal Over Time potions for myself
2.The bottomless hole that spell runes cost
3.Occasionally I have cash to spend on tradeskilling.
Hubby and I share our plat. He has an amazing knack for selling cockroaches. He sold one for 200k several years back and it has been a guild joke for a long time. In the last 6 months he sold another cockroach for 500k. I know the 500k sale was a former guildie leaving the game, it was a way to get rid of his plat. I suspect the 200k sale was also someone leaving the game. It always makes for a big laugh and fun spending for me!
Anyway I never have more than about 40k on me, but I snitch from him when I need it. He runs a bazaar mule 24/7 and usually has about 200k on him all the time.
Seamy
PS-hmmm if you are including items for sale in that total, legit items another 200k, add a cockroach at another 200k.
Anyway I never have more than about 40k on me, but I snitch from him when I need it. He runs a bazaar mule 24/7 and usually has about 200k on him all the time.
Seamy
PS-hmmm if you are including items for sale in that total, legit items another 200k, add a cockroach at another 200k.
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