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I commend you for your intent, but I think that, barring an abnormal amount of purist players on Stromm, it'll flop.

However, I do wish you the best of luck.

The nature of the guild is such that I have the luxury to recruit on all servers for the guild, so not really an issue that I'd need to find people on just one server.

Ack, never mind....haha, that'd be really stupid to go to FV, given that there isn't any no-drop loot there!

There have been quite a few guilds with very similar rules over the years.

I haven't seen much of them around.

Good luck.

The reason it doesn't work that well is, at first glance it seems like it would be really fun to play a toon the 'old school' way.

It is for a while! Then, as the toon gets older, you begin to realize how better some changes have made things. People start to get frustrated doing things the old way and migrate back to the current way of playing.

Running from Qyenos to Freeport is fun the first time, but after that..it's so much nicer to just use the PoK books.

The main reason such guilds dont last is that the time invested (ie "the grind") to get the gear to enable you to do the raids and to survive, is more than if you take advantage of gear upgrades from the bazaar. Heck, I started out Jonwin using mostly quested or paying folks to make some armor. You can be sure when I was in EC and heard a deal on something I could actually afford I bought it. Doing so just made the game a bit easier.
That reason is why all my new characters start off with hand me downs from Jon or Courtin, or spend a few hundred plat in the bazaar.

Well, two of my characters are in an old school guild similar to what you describe. Povar. The guild is pretty much dead. It's great in theory but their are not that many players that really want to play that way, and the temptations to take the bazaar path are great. NOTE - nothing wrong with Bazaar twinking IMO. It's your game, play how you like.

One of my old school characters is a Cleric. I was fine within the guild, but when I couldn't play with guildies guess what? A Cleric without KEI can't keep up with healing characters with Temp and Virtue in a pick-up group. My other is a Ranger. Once again fine in Guild, but who wants a Rng with level appropriate weapons/gear when everyone else has uber weapons and gear? Yes I could have kept a separate set of gear, but the guild had sworn off twink gear and twink buffs. Can't tell you how many times I've clicked off very nice buffs.

It was really hard to play outside the guild. At peak we had about 50 members with about 12 "regulars". It was relatively hard to put together groups on a regular basis. In the end most drifted off to the Bazaar. I still wear my guild tag on those two, hoping things will change. From what I've seen everybody talks about the "good old days" but not many really want to go back. Best to just find a few folks to group with who will accept you as you are and go with it.

Still looking for a family guild on Povar that won't have a cow if I decide to play chess instead of go on a guild raid.

I think it would be possible only if you had a very large number of players. Then it would be possible to gear up through raiding and get gear that is above your level. Also leveling will take a very long time compared to what we are used to now (which seems very slow).

I guess you could do monster missions all the way up and level quickly with no gear (j/k)

As a player who started Everquest on Day 1 of its release, I feel this is an iaccurate assumption. The economy is also a "core" and "pure" part of the games design. The evidence can be seen in the fact that on day 1, there was currency, vendors and tradeable dropped loot. Before the Bazaar and depending on your server, zones like East Commonlands and North Freeport had 400 people in them 24 hours a day spamming in /ooc there goods.

Even on day 1. I walked with 3 friends from North Qeynos, to Qeynos Hills, to West Karana. That was a huge and dangerous adventure at that time. We managed to break, after many deaths, a bandit camp and we held it, killing them as they popped. Rawhide gloves dropped. I happily equipped it. Another rawhide glove dropped, the other non caster in the group equipped it. Then, another rawhide glove dropped and we decided "Let's sell it to a vendor and split the profit."

This little long winded story is only one of many that people have.

It is a perfectly valid idea to ignore trading, buying and selling but that would be ignoring a core part of Everquests gameplay.