Heh Groogle didnt realize you were still on FV. Anyway the two armies as of Wednesday (last day I checked) wouldnt fight each other. They even walked right thru each other at one point. I know for sure the frog army made paste out of one necro who was trying to observe what was happening....Goddamn water...walking along the shoreline, corner of your eye see something turn...20 frogloks jump your **** and the one FD you get off is interrupted as half of em were casters...no I am not bitter or anything <grins>.