reren wrote:
um well yes and no since u can rez and reengage the target u were made stronger by knowing what went wrong the first time, and not repeating the same mistakes??
i could be wrong but hey its just a game after all.
Hehe. Yeah, I can buy that. I think maybe something like: "You learn more from your mistakes then your successes" might be a bit more appropriate though.
I don't think anyone in this thread is talking about wipes on raids while figuring out the correct way to handle a particular event/mob. That would qualify. Most wipeouts in groups have nothing to do with learning anything, or getting stronger in any way. They're almost universally the result of someone doing something really really stupid.
If anything, it's the opposite of the above. Most group wipes occur because some people *don't* learn no matter how many times they make the same mistake. The guy who overagros with his caster, then runs around in circles instead of standing still. The guy who pokes his head into a room "just to see what's there". The guy who goes /afk while autofollowing the puller. The guy who goes afk in general, but doesn't tell anyone about it.
Wipes that are unrelated to group mistakes are usually things you can't learn from (or not much anyway). When you wipe becasue some a-hole decided to train your group, you didn't really learn anything. You just died. Only thing you can learn from that maybe is to put your group somewhere they are unlikely to be trained. Even then, you can still end up wiping. I've seen idiots train mobs to the most unlikely spots in zones.
Dunno. The comments just kinda sounded "wrong" to me is all.