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#1 Jun 28 2005 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
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I have been playing EQ for the better part of 3 years now. I am a 39 yr old female admin at a large company and I have tried to explain EQ to non-players that just look at me like I've popped a spring somewhere lol. Has anyone else had trouble explaining this magical addiction to a fantasy world and been looked at like that? Just wondering :)
#2 Jun 28 2005 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
Well I tried doing it in a GCSE Mock Exam in the UK. Both the examiner and my teacher loved it and gave me a B. I was well chuffed. EQ is also educational aswell as severly addictive!
#3 Jun 28 2005 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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I am a 35 year old PRof male who gave up expalining it to my co-workers. They just get a glazed look.
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#4 Jun 28 2005 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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They just get a glazed look.


especially when I was saying things like "and then I summoned my pet using a bone chip. you know, it's a skeleton, and helps me to kill things faster" Smiley: glasses

best is to say: "it's role playing game, where you can play with people around the globe." it also helps to mention, that the gaming industry is a multi billion dollar industry. if you tell them more, you are likely to be laughed at...
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#5 Jun 28 2005 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
yep - just had one of these conversations over lunch in the office ....mostly glazed looks and `but what exactly do you get from it?`. Many of the guys here play Counterstrike - but they appear bemused that a 39 year old woman from IT can spend hours killing goblins & dragons.

but I did find out that someone else in my company plays EQ too, so I am going to find out which server later on - if he`s anything like RL he`ll be playing an ogre ;-)

Edited, Tue Jun 28 08:54:03 2005 by Gillwenda
#6 Jun 28 2005 at 9:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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~ Driving forces of society ~

The business person gamer. I read an article in Forbes about how the "Video Game Generation" is the most goal oriented and self motivated towards productivity since the great depression.

If the people you work with don't understand EQ, my 2cp is to scare them with a statement like this;

<Mention the Forbes article> ... so I started playing this game, and holy smokes! My typing went up 20 wpm (Train to Entrance! or help me I have no mana and the mob is beating me up!). My accounting skills got better (Ever try to keep track of a full group's damage w/ pet's while watching the screen with your other eye?) I do almost everything as a team, which has improved my task coordination ( Raid leaders, you know what I mean ) and I always research into things before I jump into something I shouldn't have. ( Why else would alla's be so Hot!) So I think those Forbes writers had something going. You should check it out. My character's name is (This is why it's important to have a name that isn't offensive or just outright wierd!!) Just look me up if you ever sign on, I can't really explain it because there is SO much to it, you never run out of things to do!

Now politely continue a conversation with a fellow EQ gamer, and watch your co-workers lean in close to eavesdrop on your strategy and plans for tonights party!

Then again, some people just don't bite. Bite them back with the following sharp verbal report;

You paid $2000 for rims that spin? You dummy! That would pay for a decade of everquest, your rims will be out of style next year you trendy git!

-or-

Oh my goodness! I AM an idiot, of course I should get out more and waste money on expensive dinners and dance clubs, because if i didn't get jiggy I would never get ahead in life! Now go away before I take the rest of your pride you barfly!

-or-

Heya Boss! It must really suck that you are so involved with work, that it's all you think about to the point of micromanagement. You'll probably die from a heart attack by the time you are 40. Which reminds me, when do you turn 40? I have been looking forward to a promotion.

You all get the idea. If they give you the apathetic eyeroll with a whisper of "loser" under their breath, just remeber, you aren't the one who's afraid to talk about your hobby.

Leaders don't have to make the right decision, they just need the fortitude to make a decision.
#7 Jun 28 2005 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
but one thing which helped massively was I sent a few screenshots to my work address - then showed the guys what the actual player view of the game entailed. That gave them a much better idea of how involved you get that the bland, pretty pictures you get on the marketing blurb. Once they saw all the stats, spells, chat box, hot keys, guild, group, tells, inventry etc they realised there was a lot to keep you busy !
#8 Jun 28 2005 at 9:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Nice Komzur !
#9 Jun 28 2005 at 9:20 AM Rating: Decent
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lol - yeah.

You know I think the Harley Davidson folks had a saying for this -- "If I had to explain, you wouldn't understand".

Although, I do scope for other EQ players in the real world - only met a couple. Funny thing was - one place I worked at, I come and walk up on one of the other IT guys.. and what's he got going on his laptop? EQ!!! lol

Was funny as heck, he just gave me this look - like, omg please don't say you seen me playing a game at work.. I just stuck up some EQ converstion with him :) lol, I think he was quite relieved. I'm not gutsy enough to play EQ at work, really. Although, I have my home PC connected via VPN to the Network at work - and I can remote into my PC and check on my trader :) But I reserve that for lunch.

lol
#10 Jun 28 2005 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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haha - yeah.. You know, my dad kinda would look at me odd, knowing I payed for an online game. But one time - I made a sneaky little dig... I said, you know $12.95 a month, is really cheaper than even renting a couple movies - heck, that and I can spend an easy $60.00+ going out for a couple drinks one night..

I think he kinda seen the logic then - he spends more in a night on the town that I do in 2 months of everquest - since I'm paying for 2 accounts now. Actually, it doesn't cost me a thing, really. Since I've been playing EQ, I've dropped all the movie channels from cable, since I really don't watch them anymore - that in itself, actually saves me about $30.00 a month, even while paying for 2 (3 if you count my wife's) accounts.

The older generations I guess still see games as kids stuff - kinda like their parents seen TV, I think :)
#11 Jun 28 2005 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
well, im 19 and all my friends who aren't jocks are gamers too. They kinda have an attitude like this
#12 Jun 28 2005 at 11:07 AM Rating: Default
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I have found the best was to explain it is to ask " have you seen the Lord of the ring movies'? The say its a little like that but there is no end to it and there are folk from around the world palying with you in real time. /cue glazed look =)

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#13 Jun 28 2005 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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I tried explaining what the was deal was about EQ to quite a few people. Only way I could get them to understand is to say: "It's like DnD with graphics, kind of like Forgotten Realms-type monsters."

Since we are children of the 80's, well my circle of friends are, everyone knew what DnD was :) (Dungeons and Dragons for you youngsters).






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#14 Jun 28 2005 at 9:52 PM Rating: Decent
Lol, in high school, I wouldn't dare want to mention this to anyone...you know, cause of the DnD stereotypes (tho I do play that too). But A friend asked me what it was, and I tried explaining. I just say 'Have you ever played an RPG?' and if no, I say it's a medeival, dragonslaying, awesome game that you can play with millions of other people in the world.

If yes then I basically say the same thing, except having to explain what an rpg is, lol. But over all, I rack up a strange look in the end and subject is instantly changed.
#15 Jun 28 2005 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good



I must say that I've been playing EQ since October of '99. Not until recently have I tried [had] to explain EQ to any non players. The reason for this is that recently I moved, and sadly I'm out of DSL range. Now everyone is wondering why my phone is constantly busy, or they get my voicemail after one ring. No one seems to realize what their getting into by asking.

So, a while back I bought a modem with the netwaiting feature. Call comes in, modem puts the signal on hold and lets the call be answered within 2 minutes. You can accept the call, or reject it and wait for the carrier signal to return. Fighting some undead on the beach at Gunthak, I pull a skelly and he brings a nearby friend with him.. then a yellow troll pops nearby and joins in. I get them both slowed and I'm kickin some butt, really proud of how I'm handling the situation. Almost got the last mob killed when.. *RING RING* modem pops up, shows that my mom is calling.. and meanwhile I've lost carrier signal. I quickly reject the call (yeah, I know.. but like you wouldn't do it to your own mother with your toons life on the line?) and I go back to EQ and everything is still going smoothly, until I look at my lag meter. Anywho, it looked like my pet was running away, mob was chasing it, so I start swimming cuz I know trouble's coming.. but the carrier signal kicks back in, the mobs on top of me, pets dead and I'm stunned in the middle of the ocean. Loading... Please Wait.

Was over my moms the other day and just came out and said... "You know you got me killed?" She stared at me wondering what I was saying. Tried to explain to her about how I was on the beach fighting 2 skeletons and a yellow undead troll.. and how my pet 'gator died and then I died and my body was sleepin with the fishies. The conversation took a technical turn into me explaining the whole concept of sending and receiving data from servers and clients and lag and... I finally stopped when she was just sitting there nodding and went into a conversation about what the cat had done the night before.

So, from now on, I'm not going to bother anymore about trying to explain EQ to non-players.. especially my parents. >.<

Edited, Tue Jun 28 23:31:52 2005 by akelly
#16 Jun 29 2005 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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akelly wrote:
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Was over my moms the other day and just came out and said... "You know you got me killed?" She stared at me wondering what I was saying. Tried to explain to her about how I was on the beach fighting 2 skeletons and a yellow undead troll.. and how my pet 'gator died and then I died and my body was sleepin with the fishies. The conversation took a technical turn into me explaining the whole concept of sending and receiving data from servers and clients and lag and... I finally stopped when she was just sitting there nodding and went into a conversation about what the cat had done the night before.


exactly Smiley: lol
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#17 Jun 29 2005 at 1:35 AM Rating: Decent
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I first tryed to describe it as a "mud" but know one knew what i ment by that.. Next was the dnd but online with 1500 plus players at any given time. This brought recognition and the look of ok next topic. Then the family gives me the "your not doing anything" and the "can you come here for a moment" while I'm on a raid on mobs and have to direct folks and what ever else. Timeing and understanding of non playing folks is just not there.
#18 Jun 29 2005 at 5:15 AM Rating: Decent
My approach is to make a set of questions to asses what level of answer would be the best.

From MUD gone graphical into loads of details, or the high level picture of LOTR characters and all the bits mentioned here. I am yet to meet an EQ player at work, I have meet some of the people in my Guild (two meets so far). It was a blast, imagine a crowd of 70 people leaving a pub and rading a munipal bus to go for a curry :D it is also interesting to see people from all walks of live.

The hardest part of EQ was to explain this to my partner. She was an avid Diablo player so at least she knows about the hooking worm feeling of a game.

It is the social part that was harder to understand, the fact that you have a close connection to your characters and your friends in game. You know the old story "you spend more time with your friends than with me" argument? That sort of thing applied to the XXI century.

You have probably heard "waste your time" and "stupid game", to which I replied "****** friends", "bindge drinking and throwing cash away", "going out on the **** and the disco is productive?".

Now I get my EQ evenings (3-4/week), when the other half might go out with offices collegues or watches some TV/Film program I don't want to see. We made clear that we spend quality time together and its more important than eachothers hobbies, but at the same time we respect them. Nobody claims the moral highground.

The analysis of what you learn is excellent. Add a few more:

One of the skills that I have noticed is to be able to better communicate to, and understand, others over a limited medium as is typing. Applying this to work in terms of emails and documentation, specially since English is not my mother tongue (it's Spanish - as in Spain, Europe).

I can even type without looking down to the keyboard, all those lessons I tried in the past never got me anywhere. EQ did :)

Another skill is time management, I learned to arrange my time so I wouldn't miss key raids. Now I apply it to all events, even work :)

Edited, Wed Jun 29 06:16:53 2005 by MileaDELady

Edited, Wed Jun 29 06:22:55 2005 by MileaDELady
#19 Jun 29 2005 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
Last week at work I realized there were not just a couple, but several people standing with their jaws half gaped, and one eye kinda popped up.. You see, I work with a few eq players so sometimes there are even 3 or 4 of us in the conversation.. Well since we were not aware there were spectators we just prattled on like normal the conversation will make sence to most of you.. but if you fell on this site and don't play... move on to the ****~

"Last night in HoH I friggin went LD right at engage and my damn GL is ******* that I want rpp!"

"Did ya make it back for the projection?"

"Actually I got a 1018 popped back in just as it despawned but was there for loot rolls"

"Well we will backflag them after LMM so no worries."

"I guess.. from what I hear we will be doin TRC and RZ before we go back to this part"

"Best bet is try to get permenant as a flaggot and wrap up the rest when ya get to it, or on an open. Hell all ya get is a few mana and hp on yer intricate wooden figurine anyway"

"Guess yer right, I just wanna finish pop so we can kill god"...

That's where one of my friends finally chimed in ... "I need an asprin."

So sufice to say .. explaining it is tough unless you have a masters in public speaking



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#20 Jun 29 2005 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
My 14 year old daughter thinks I'm totally nuts for being such a "nerd." My hubby and I try to explain this game to her...

"and then when you kill stuff, you can make another level."
-daughter- "and then what happens when you make another level?"
"well you can fight bigger things. And they have better stuff."
-daughter - "and when what happens when you get better stuff?"
"well, then you can fight bigger things and they have better stuff!"
-daughter,"Mom, you JUST said that!" What happens after that?"

......

Okay so there's that Harley statement - "if I have to explain it you woudln't understand." lol (Which by the way, we ride hogs too.)

Zena

Edited, Wed Jun 29 08:43:16 2005 by ladymills
#21 Jun 29 2005 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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When I try to explain EQ to people, they always ask me how do you beat the game?

I tell them this:

You cant beat the game. There is no end. Thats why they call it everquest. Imagine this. You create a character and give him a job. There is no 1 way to become the best at your job, but its up to you to find the tools and the means to do said job. You can do whatever you want in this game. It doesnt matter. Go here, go there, do this do that. Its all up to you. If you choose to go raiding (they ask me what a raid is...."you and your 71 other friends beating the hell outta something"), you'll see the really cool stuff that would probably kill you in one hit. If you dont, you dont. You can do whatever you want. Its your world.

Then I proceed to tell them the story of the sleeper, and how it took 3 raids to kill him, and PoP, and the Diety and faction systems. and they usually reply with "Wow, sounds complicated."

Nope, not really, just encompassing. They usually look at me with a blank stare right about now, so I dumb it down a notch:

"Its Dungeons and Dragons with pretty 3d pictures."

"Oh, I get it. Wizards, and fighters and stuff."

Thats how it got explained to me at least.

Edited, Wed Jun 29 09:36:36 2005 by ghengisjon
#22 Jun 29 2005 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
Some time ago -- back when we were exchanging bits by carving 1s and 0s in stone blocks -- I was playing MegaWars on CIS. [It's a space war game, but nevermind.]

There was an all-nite raid-like thing scheduled involving a whole team [read: guild] and the taking of an Imperial Base [read: really tough mob].

Well, we went thru it and it was about 8-10 hrs straight. I told my mother about it the next morning... bleary eyes... half-awake.

She said, "Has anyone done two of them back-to-back?" I was awake!! Bless her understanding soul.

Needless to say, the Killer Rabbits did, that very day.

.............

Some people DO understand.

#23 Jun 29 2005 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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U cant explain the wonderfulness of evercrack. Its like explaining Einstien's theory to a hillbilly. or explaining every step of evolution. only way to get a non-player hooked is if theyve had experience w/ the original D&D or have lots of friends who play it or it was pure luck.
#24 Jun 29 2005 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I gave up trying to explain EQ to the norms. Even my friends with whom I've spent 18+ hours at lan parties running on rented gas powered generators have trouble understanding it. I have a coworker who used to play way back in the day and chatting with her about it sort of talked me into trying it out. I have other coworkers who have played before and left for wow but left that for guildwars because it's a single purchase no monthly fees game. With them I can sort of talk about eq, though they haven't played in some time and did not progress their characters very far, so much of the content they recall is very old. But with family and non-eq-playing friends? Not a chance. So you can't pause it? You actually play for a few hours at a time? Do you remember what the outside look like? I think it's one of those things where you really have to experience it to understand it, or at least have a decent amount of experience with RPG's. Between dozens of race/class/deity combinations with tens of thousands of items, over 230 zones, and raids where up to 72 (or more outside) can work cooporatively to acomplish a single goal, and who knows how many people online at any given time it makes even the larger multiplayer fps's seem tiny.

So what do I do now? I tell them I have a bunch of work I have to do. It's just easier that way.


Edited, Wed Jun 29 09:59:05 2005 by Xislaben
#25 Jun 29 2005 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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The hardest part of EQ was to explain this to my partner. She was an avid Diablo player so at least she knows about the hooking worm feeling of a game.

It is the social part that was harder to understand, the fact that you have a close connection to your characters and your friends in game. You know the old story "you spend more time with your friends than with me" argument? That sort of thing applied to the XXI century.



I've also had this problem with my girlfriend. I would constantly hear the.. "You spend more time playing that stupid game than you do talking to me" and "..the most I ever see of you is the back of your head."

Obviously, my GF DOES NOT understand how intense and engulfing EQ is. Tried explaining it to her, but had no luck there either. She had a PS1 a while back but never really touched it much. The atari was the system she played most before the PS1, and she has never played a computer game other than the original Myst.

Then I found a solution. One day, out of the blue.. I started her an account, and told her how I'd hate for the money to go to waste. She started researching the classes and races, and I showed her Allakhazam and the spell lists, items and stuff. Now, I have a awesome and lovely 66 High Elf Cleric who fights beside my Vah Shir warrior, and on days that I don't feel like playing.. I walk in to find her 2boxing me! :)


Success!!

#26 Jun 29 2005 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
Oh yeah...I have found it hard to tell people about the game and them understand...I have now gone to saying...it's just this game I play on the comp. works good enuff for me and gives me lots of time to get back to the things that matter most....EQ...and well EQ =) but as for you saying that the older folks think it dumb or what not...my dad is 47 and plays EQ every chance he gets...he has a 70druid with 100some odd AA's a 54 shaman and a few others..we have been playing EQ for about 5 or so years now
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