Just a quick question on Ranger Stats and need input.
What stat(s) (other than HP, Mana, Endurance) are most important to a Ranger.
My AGI is a bit lower than my other stats. Should I work on this or is DEX most important because of dual wield and bowing?
Thanks
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Unless you are level 59+ with AM then Wis above Dex. You don't really have to worry about Archery skills until then. Just make sure you don't neglect Archery completely until then. It can be a real pain getting it to 200 from 0. A couple arrows every other mob or so will get you quite a few points as your leveling up.
Sta gives HP, so max out sta first. Usually mana pool size is not a problem unless your wis is ultra low. As long as you have some sort of mana regen, you should be able to keep up with buffing and some occational nuking np.
Other stats don't really matter that much. Dex helps crits and offense skill ups, so that would be the next logical stats to raise, but it is really not that important.
unless you have very good 1h weapons, I suggest getting a decent 2H weapon for much better dps, instead of dual wield. After you get archery AAs, you can duel wield 2 weapons for better stats.
Other stats don't really matter that much. Dex helps crits and offense skill ups, so that would be the next logical stats to raise, but it is really not that important.
unless you have very good 1h weapons, I suggest getting a decent 2H weapon for much better dps, instead of dual wield. After you get archery AAs, you can duel wield 2 weapons for better stats.
Thanks. Will check WIS tonight, Bowing is already way over 200, hehe so no problems there.
Have a 2HS right now, but delay too long, but really nice stats. Am waiting for one (required level 60) and then will get it, put this one away for a few levels.
1HS and 2HS are way over 200 too. Have two 1HS but they are annoying, stat wise and Dmg wise even with processing. My bowing does more damage than these two weapons.
Thanks again
Have a 2HS right now, but delay too long, but really nice stats. Am waiting for one (required level 60) and then will get it, put this one away for a few levels.
1HS and 2HS are way over 200 too. Have two 1HS but they are annoying, stat wise and Dmg wise even with processing. My bowing does more damage than these two weapons.
Thanks again
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Assailant wrote:
Sta gives HP, so max out sta first. Usually mana pool size is not a problem unless your wis is ultra low. As long as you have some sort of mana regen, you should be able to keep up with buffing and some occational nuking np.
Other stats don't really matter that much. Dex helps crits and offense skill ups, so that would be the next logical stats to raise, but it is really not that important.
unless you have very good 1h weapons, I suggest getting a decent 2H weapon for much better dps, instead of dual wield. After you get archery AAs, you can duel wield 2 weapons for better stats.
Other stats don't really matter that much. Dex helps crits and offense skill ups, so that would be the next logical stats to raise, but it is really not that important.
unless you have very good 1h weapons, I suggest getting a decent 2H weapon for much better dps, instead of dual wield. After you get archery AAs, you can duel wield 2 weapons for better stats.
Assailant is correct. STA is the hardest stat to raise later in the game compaired to the others. Go with STA when you make the toon and gear and AA's will help with the rest.
Did you parse your dps to determind your archery at this point has higher dps than dual wield?
I did some extensive parsing when I was getting archery AAs for my ranger during the levels 59 - 61.
Before any archery AAs, with nightmare compound bow and summoned arrows, 41% haste, my ranger was doing about 40 dps.
With duel wielding 13/19 150DD proc and epic (41% haste), it was about 60-80dps.
With Windblade and 36% haste, it was about 80 - 110 dps.
With EQ/AM 1, Stonewood bow, 11 + 4 dmg arrow, 41% haste, archery damage started to come close with windblade dps.
I did some extensive parsing when I was getting archery AAs for my ranger during the levels 59 - 61.
Before any archery AAs, with nightmare compound bow and summoned arrows, 41% haste, my ranger was doing about 40 dps.
With duel wielding 13/19 150DD proc and epic (41% haste), it was about 60-80dps.
With Windblade and 36% haste, it was about 80 - 110 dps.
With EQ/AM 1, Stonewood bow, 11 + 4 dmg arrow, 41% haste, archery damage started to come close with windblade dps.
Never, under any circumstances, try to improve your ranger's STR. it's a useless stat.
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Have the Nightmare bow right now. My Pally has a better one but need to get to Level 60 then going to trade bows. Of course, there are misses but when pulling doing a good steady on most bowing of 30-100's and getting more criticals now and some over 200 (did two hits over 200 the other night and one was critical within seconds of each other). Making Serrated arrows now and have no problem with Archery. Think since I started it early on that it pays off well now.
Maybe because other melee is Pally but finding the duel wield weapons at this point not worth using, am doing maybe a few 70 but average for say four hits in a row 15-50. But when hitting, say, Turpeta turtles in Natimbi, this could go on for hours even with what dots and nukes I have at this point.
My 2H is great stat and damage wise but delay is not good and though when I do connect the damage is great, it is not that often though of course better timing when soloing than in a group and more hits and damage.
Have been looking in Bazaar on Povar for the Windblade for a while now. There arent any up right now. Really would like to have it and think it would be a good weapon for this level and next few and have read elsewhere that it is a good weapon.
If what you are all saying is correct, maybe I should just dump the dual wield weapons, put on Trader and go with the 2HS which is, hehe, what I wind up doing after a few minute of 1HS anyway these days.
Had thought since AGI was lower than other stats (not much) that should concentrate getting that up, however, seems STA and WIS are the winners and will concentrate on those a bit more, WIS and STA aren't low but if adding some points through AA's will help then that is what I will do.
Thanks
Maybe because other melee is Pally but finding the duel wield weapons at this point not worth using, am doing maybe a few 70 but average for say four hits in a row 15-50. But when hitting, say, Turpeta turtles in Natimbi, this could go on for hours even with what dots and nukes I have at this point.
My 2H is great stat and damage wise but delay is not good and though when I do connect the damage is great, it is not that often though of course better timing when soloing than in a group and more hits and damage.
Have been looking in Bazaar on Povar for the Windblade for a while now. There arent any up right now. Really would like to have it and think it would be a good weapon for this level and next few and have read elsewhere that it is a good weapon.
If what you are all saying is correct, maybe I should just dump the dual wield weapons, put on Trader and go with the 2HS which is, hehe, what I wind up doing after a few minute of 1HS anyway these days.
Had thought since AGI was lower than other stats (not much) that should concentrate getting that up, however, seems STA and WIS are the winners and will concentrate on those a bit more, WIS and STA aren't low but if adding some points through AA's will help then that is what I will do.
Thanks
well, you can't look at single max hits to judge dps (damage per second)
download YALP or something to parse your dps, that's the only way to know for sure. www.yalp.org
download YALP or something to parse your dps, that's the only way to know for sure. www.yalp.org
Yeesh. Don't waste AA points on Wis. It's not that important. Save up those points for archery. Also as mentioned above prior to level 59+ and AM 1/2, dual wield should be higher dps.
Unless you have some 2HS AA's, I don't think you're going to be outdamaging dual wield with bazaar weapons. The big numbers look nice but the dual wield (provided you have decent weapons) will produce more damage over the course of the fight. There's definately a time and place for 2HS though, so I'd still look for a good one.
If you're going archery however (and why wouldnt you?), it's all a moot point because you'll be using the bow 95% of the time until you get some melee AA's and possibly some no-drop weapons. Just work toward getting to 61 for a planar bow, and of course, getting those archery AAs.
As for DEX? Work on improving it, but know that it doesn't make much difference for you until you're full time archery. Then you're going to want to get as much as possible.
If you're going archery however (and why wouldnt you?), it's all a moot point because you'll be using the bow 95% of the time until you get some melee AA's and possibly some no-drop weapons. Just work toward getting to 61 for a planar bow, and of course, getting those archery AAs.
As for DEX? Work on improving it, but know that it doesn't make much difference for you until you're full time archery. Then you're going to want to get as much as possible.
Work on your Dex and your Sta. As you grow you will get gear that will help all your stats. Today, there are plenty of buffs to shore up your weak area's until they can be properly addressed.
As for damage, your dual wield will be your main and best damage dealer til you get atleast AM2 and an elemental bow. Of course he comes the rub: You need alot af AAs to make your bow powerful. There are basically 2 schools of thought on this subject.
1. Level's > AAs
2. Get AAs that suit your playstyle and how you want to progress.
It will take you 45 AAs to get EQ/AM3. Then a bunch more to make your bow as powerful as it can be. Then of course aquisition of an elemental bow. If you chose to level to 65 then AA, you will miss out on a couple of very usefull AAs that are available at lower levels, namely Headshot and Innate Cammo.
Headshot aquired at level 62 is a valuable tool that will allow you 1% AAXP per kill in zones like AC, ME, Droga and Nurga. If you get HS at 65 then it is just a farming tool and many say a waste of an AA. Innate Camo will change the way you play your ranger forever.
Remember, a ranger is a very veristile class and when played well, is joy to behold. Played sloppily, and you see why we are the butt of so many jokes.
Others have mentioned this weapon or that weapon. We as rangers have a great array of weapons the we can wield. Do not neglect ANY of your weapon skills. Take the time to skill them up when you have to. I had all my skills max'd to 50 when I was 39.
This includes your spell skills. It would be a shame for a really nice piercer to drop in your hands and you don't the the skill to use it effeciently.
Don't worry over much about your stat, they will riase in time, the bottom line is to have fun with your ranger. :)
Edited, Thu Jun 23 21:41:45 2005 by RangerRath
As for damage, your dual wield will be your main and best damage dealer til you get atleast AM2 and an elemental bow. Of course he comes the rub: You need alot af AAs to make your bow powerful. There are basically 2 schools of thought on this subject.
1. Level's > AAs
2. Get AAs that suit your playstyle and how you want to progress.
It will take you 45 AAs to get EQ/AM3. Then a bunch more to make your bow as powerful as it can be. Then of course aquisition of an elemental bow. If you chose to level to 65 then AA, you will miss out on a couple of very usefull AAs that are available at lower levels, namely Headshot and Innate Cammo.
Headshot aquired at level 62 is a valuable tool that will allow you 1% AAXP per kill in zones like AC, ME, Droga and Nurga. If you get HS at 65 then it is just a farming tool and many say a waste of an AA. Innate Camo will change the way you play your ranger forever.
Remember, a ranger is a very veristile class and when played well, is joy to behold. Played sloppily, and you see why we are the butt of so many jokes.
Others have mentioned this weapon or that weapon. We as rangers have a great array of weapons the we can wield. Do not neglect ANY of your weapon skills. Take the time to skill them up when you have to. I had all my skills max'd to 50 when I was 39.
This includes your spell skills. It would be a shame for a really nice piercer to drop in your hands and you don't the the skill to use it effeciently.
Don't worry over much about your stat, they will riase in time, the bottom line is to have fun with your ranger. :)
Edited, Thu Jun 23 21:41:45 2005 by RangerRath
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