Are Paladins getting screwed?Follow

any time+ weapon combo WILL outaggro any paladin. even a bloodfrenzy/EoE both augged comes pretty close. we had our top paladin try to outaggro our top warrior a bit after we broke in to qvic... and he was completely unable to.

I really don't know why you keep saying that paladins didn't tank raid mobs in PoP, that's simply not true. Paladins were constantly tanking Cazic in Time or even Innoruuk, and that was before guilds started the farming process of maxxing out on Time gear. Even earlier than that, paladins tanked during the Rathe council and on coirnav, as well as the countless pissant raids that required lots of clearing. And of course, paladins tanked a ton on LDoN raids.

If you contrast that with Kunark/Luclin, you simply didn't see that sort of thing, except perhaps on bosses that were already trivial when you entered the expansion.

Edited, Fri Jun 10 15:26:11 2005 by Tehom

umm, no it wasnt. some areas were aimed for 67 (NOT 70!) and made easier (aimed at 65) after release. *MOST* of GoD was aimed at 65 to begin with.


... that's a perfectly reasonable number of guilds per server to have access to the end zone of an expansion when the next expansion is released. I'm pretty sure that's higher than it was for most previous expansions.

If this was the case, GoD was maybe too easy. How many guilds in the whole game had hit time by the time the next expansion came out (LOY)?

ZERO

Afterlife (the first guild to enter time) broke in early in May, almost 4 moths after LoY release.

loy was indeed after pop

Hah. Ok. I did always kinda "blur" that part of the expansion history. Maybe LoY just wasn't memorable enough?

In any case, as I stated, it doesn't change the point I was making. Neither LoY or LDoN raised the top end of the game, so their relevance in terms of who was tanking what in Time when is somewhat irrelevant. I'm reasonably certain that no guilds broke into Time because of gear upgrades they gained in LDoN, much less LoY. Thus, the number of guilds in Time during those expansions is irrelevant if your point is to show the relative difficulty of advancement within an expansion's content without using "new" content to help you get there.

Um. I'd also argue that GoD had virtually zero pre-ep progression either, so any guild not already in or near Time couldn't really do much with it. While I suppose it's possible for a pre-EP guild to stop their PoP progression, advance through GoD, and then come back to planar progression towards Time, that kinda seems unlikely. I'd wager most guilds did it the other way around...

IMHO, OoW was the first expansion after PoP that both increased the top end *and* provided a completely internal gear up path within the expansion itself. Not that that's super relevant to the issue at hand. Just felt like pointing it out. Both expansions have a similar breadth to them, which is both good and bad.