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I hope this is the LAST we hear from itemstore.

Personally I think all these guys should lose their accounts and have all the items on them auctioned off in a public "sherriff" type auction.

Once a week in the bazaar a GM auction. That's the ticket. And donate the plat. "The 1st 100 players that send a tell get 1000 plat each until the loot is gone"

Maybe we'll see GMs more often that way........

Personally I think all these guys should lose their accounts and have all the items on them auctioned off in a public "sherriff" type auction.

Once a week in the bazaar a GM auction. That's the ticket. And donate the plat. "The 1st 100 players that send a tell get 1000 plat each until the loot is gone"

Maybe we'll see GMs more often that way........

It is against the EULA of EQ that you must agree to each time you log onto the game.

I know this is a bit of a bump but it occured to me that this was perfect.

No sympathy from me! You intentionally broke the rules,and now asking for help? Broken rules demand accountability. Stop whining!

OK so this guy is a ****** for blatantly breaking the rules and leavening his address behind. I got no sympathy for crooks especially stupid ones.

BUT

You all sound like a bunch of whiney *** sniveling petty little jerks.

Most of you probably are just jealous that you either cant make that much PP in the game or cant make enough real money to buy PP in the game.

Get off your sanctimonious high horses and leave the dude alone. He did the crime now he paid the price.

Anyone who has ever helped someone PL a character or has handed them gear they did not earn is guilty of the same thing this guy did. Just on a smaller scale.

If you are really so concerned with equality in the game then petition SOE to make every item in the game no drop. Then there is no reason for PP. This includes food and drink. If you want misty thicket picnics, make them yourself. Work your own skills up and stop paying other people for their work.

After all its not fair that someone who can only play EQ 5 hours a week can buy a nice sword for his toon. He must settle for fine steel and like it. Where as the jobless “got no real life” moron living in his mom and dad’s basement and playing 80 hours a week has God like characters in the game. How many of you have ever camped an item in the game so that you could twink a alt or sell it in the bazaar for PP? IT’S THE SAME THING ON A BIGGER SCALE. This guy and all the other PP sellers out there just run a bigger version of it. So STFU and quit acting so “holier than thou”.




Edited, Tue Apr 5 18:56:56 2005 by Broan

Wow. If I had a dollar for every time someone made this assumption. Look. I *can* manage to make PP in game just fine. I also easily have the finances to be able to buy the absolute best buyable gear in the game without even putting a ripple in my account balances.

Some of us learned at an early age that it's "cheating" to gain advantage in a game if you get stuff from outside the game. Sure. I *could* bring my own monopoly money and slip it into my money pile while playing. I could even argue that the others were just jealous that they didn't think to buy extra monopoly money to give them that advantage. I might even ***** that it's unfair that the kid that spent hundreds of hours learning how to play monopoly really well keeps beating me and that it's only "fair" for me to do this to have an edge.

But it's still cheating. And you'll have a hell of a hard time getting the majority of the players of this game to see the offline purchase of platinum as anything other then cheating.



Sure. But he's the one who cheated, got caught, paid the price, and then came here to ***** about it. Not us. It's not like we tracked him down over the internet so we could harrass him or something. He came to this site, and chose to post. I hope you can see the difference...



No. They aren't. And the fact that you can't see that those are completely different issues is part of the problem. If I chose to give you something in game, that is *completely* within the game. In exactly the same way that I could choose to give a player some of my money in monopoly. It's mine. I earned it in game. I can choose to give it away if I want.

If that same player then goes somewhere outside the game and buys money to help him in game, he's cheating. It's really that simple. Anything that happens completely within the game, involving only in-game mechanics and economics is "fair". The second you introduce something from outside, you are breaking the rules. I hope you can see the distinction.



Again. You are confusing the in-game economy with the out of game buying and selling of gear, plat, and characters. The former is a part of the game and is completely ok. The latter is wrong (to varying degrees in my personal opinion, but still cheating in the absolutel sense). You are gaining an advantage in the game without doing anything in game to get it. Even someone giving you something in game is the presumed result of some in-game interation. Sure. There's some grey lines there. But not so grey that you can justify sites doing the business of buying and selling in-game items from random strangers across the internet.

You're also aware that many game mechanics rely on the players buying and selling stuff in-game, right? Your "rules" would make my epic1.5 impossible to obtain for example. One of the components needed for the paladin epic can only be obtained by foraging in a LGuk LDoN adventure. Since paladins don't get forage, you just screwed an entire class.

Stick to you day job because you clearly are not qualified to talk even semi-intelligently about game design and operability. Doubly so for EQ.



Explain to me exactly what is "not fair" about that situation? The guy who spends 80 hours a week playing the game has spent 80 hours a week playing the game. Shouldn't he gain more in-game then the guy who spends 5 hours a week?

It never ceases to amaze me how consistently people will redefine "fair" to mean anything that makes things better for them. In actual fact, what is "unfair" is the guy who plays for 1/10th as much time getting the same or better gear due to buying stuff offline. Funny how you call it unfair the other way around, but seem to ignore the fact that this completely screws the guy who's spent the time playing the game. What does he get for his time? Nothing...

Nice posts xythex and gbaji!

By the way, coming from someone who plays in his mom's basement, I can afford all the plat I want. (Made over 30K last year, too bad the X wife wanted another dude.. :P) However, I have in my EQ bank 10K, not counting gear and a drog for my 51 main. (Not rich, but hardly hurting.) Know how I got it? I did quests, sold everything I could on either trader or to vendors, never let anything rot, looted/cleaned corpses up when others said they were only looking for XP, and paid attention to those silly OOCs when people offered plat to be ported or have some thing done that they could not do.

Yes, I do give my gear to my lower level characters. Is that cheating? Well, tell you what, give me every cent and all the cool stuff you ever got from your parents/grandparents, because you never earned it. If you ever group with a person who has no idea how to play their character, you can bet they were either purchased (meaning they will jeaprodize the group) or power-leveled (hope they didnt purchase thier main.) Well, OK, I will conceed, sometimes people are just lucky idiots like me. '

I spend time when I can with my EQ account, but it sure aint an investment. It is stress relief.

Please excuse the use of the cute smileys, which those of you who can't afford premium, don't get to use. Life if SO tough.



Edited, Tue Apr 5 22:42:28 2005 by Kelti

Isnt it time we let this thread die?

Yes, it is a violation of the EULA to buy from these sites. The fact that these places stay in operation shows how many cheaters are out there unfortunatley.