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Morning everyone,

Castle Mistmoore is heading towards becoming the stink hole of PC and it only takes 1 obnoxious punk to do it.

My little group in Mistmoore was pleasantly grouping the first area by the pond. We were having a great time pulling, roleplaying, and doing pleasant everquest things.

Then a mean troll and iskar (who had been camping the GY) proceeded to start pulling from our camp. I decided to stroll up to them and ask them politely to return to their camp, the graveyard, since this camp is taken and there is more then enough room for all of us.

I was told, rather rudely, by the Iskar to "shut up!" and that since they aren't Kill Stealing, to mind our own business and be happy with what was left over.

/blood starts to boil.

This is possibly the 1st time I have ever experienced such a nasty iskar! Therefore after about 30 minutes of them having their way, I did what any evil necromancer would do. Send pet to graveyard, pull the entire camp on them, dismiss pet, and feign dead.

I wish theRE was some way to record what happended over the next 20 minutes while they were doing a corpse run. the language got so bad that I eventually had to /ignore them.

Was I wrong in my evilness or should I have taken a different route. After I trained them, they left the zone after their corpse run and never came back. Peace once again settled over the land.

Bub

IMO you did the right thing. Rude people should get what they deserve. It sux you can get banned for stuff like that though but on the other hand you can get banned for campstealing aswell.
Lets hope that you learned them a lesson so they never campsteal again.
People should allways be nice to eachother unless roleplaying on a PvP server and even then they should keep there language within reasnoble limits. Just my oppinion ofcourse.
I wouldn´t have done what u did, Im to much of a chicken and a noob but Im glad someone steps up to morons. :)

If sony bans me then ok. Not really too worried about it since all they have to do is check the text messages that these guys were sending to me. My text was polite. Their messages were profanity laced with references to killing me and my pet.

Besides, Sony should ban all three accounts then (mine and the two *********** That would mean less revenue for them and for such a petty occurence IMO.

I would certainly agree that castle MM is fast becoming the next PC (I started a thread on this a while back), and when I was there over the weekend, it had just gotten worse.

No question that the Iskar was wrong (those people quickly get put on ignore list), but I can't say that training them was a good response.

Sinking to their level may have made you feel good, but hardly improved the situation. Besides, since they left MM, they are now off somewhere else probably doing the same thing which means the rest of us have to deal with them LOL (hmm anyone see that old movie Escape from NY where they put all the bad people in one place?).

Bottom line is that regardless of what character you play, you need to respect other players and I don't think that either group lived up to that.

It is a slippery slope you don't want to start down.

Training is never a good response to an issue.

Yes it is rough and unfair if someone starts pulling from the area (area not camp) that you were pulling from. Unless they actually start taking mobs you have engaged then they are not technically doing anything wrong and a GM would just get you to share with them.

Further I would not use roleplay as an excuse for this. You - the player - trained them. Unless you have a very unusual history you are not actually an evil necromancer.

The trouble is that even if you were provoked and are normally a nice friendly guy someone reading this here with any consensus that you were justified will think that they are equally justified in other circumstances.

It comes down to the quote from Harry Callaghan in "Magnum Force" - "How long before you assassinate your neighbor because his dog peed on your lawn"

There is so much in EQ that it is not worth crossing paths or swords with idiots.

I hate people like that, but they got what they deserved. While I think that it is resonable to pull from a camp if the other group is not taking the mob, or preparing for it, the iksar's behavior was unacceptable. How many times have we all found someone who is so foul towards polite players? It's too bad that pulling an entire camp on them is bannable.

You aren't going to be given anything but a stern warning if a GM responds, but it's rare to get GM intervention in a lot of high-end zones, let alone dumps like Mistmoore and Paludal.

More power to you, even if it is "sinking to their level," it's far more satisfying that eating their harassment. You should have gotten some screenshots. :)

I pulled the mobs from the secret entrance behind the GY. Red, nasty Mobs!

Yep, if everythign did indeed go down as you described, the rat-bastards got exactly what was coming to them. Since justice seems to be served only about 1 out of 20 times in EQ, stories like this help get through the other 19. I wasn't even there yet the nice warm feeling I get is almost the same as if I had been ;)

I hope one of them reads the boards here...

In life when in doubt feign stupidity. Our society has a very low tolerance for immoral behavior, but has a remarkably high tolerance for gross stupidity (especially when there is humor involved). Companies will often fire a person for objectionable behavior, but will often overlook the situation if they believed there was true ignorance involved. It’s much safer to be looked upon as an imbecile than an anarchist.

Technically SOE does not recognize the concept of camps, although good EQ etiquette does warrant that some consideration be given to other characters. This is especially true if there is plenty of mobs and loot to go around for everyone. There are plenty of people out there that are especially greedy and think only of themselves. I for one am sick and tired of our society kowtowing to their every whim, and I certainly don’t fault you for wanting to execute your own form of justice. Just make sure you don’t look like the perpetrator of the event.

Find some incredibly ingenious way to bring sweet justice to them, but look like the biggest EQ doorknob on the face of the planet. If the opposing side does a /report to the GM you want to look like a complete idiot. There is nothing in the End User License Agreement concerning stupidity.

Stupidity:

The big ole giant came running after me so i needed to get away and and... and.. and.. I JUST DROPPED FAKE DEAD! DUR!

Wheeeeee



:P

Im almost as bad as the guys u trained.. :( Yesterday I went to the armory in dulak and just run around in the harbor killing stuff without any problems since I had my lvl 65 bst friend with me and I was already lvl 49 at that time. When we had runned around for a while we came by the armory were we had camped from lvl 44 to lvl 49. All mobs were there and noone in sight so we didn´t think about asking for a campcheck. We killed all mobs in a few minutes and suddenly a group came by and said 'omg, your stealing our camp' I replied that there was noone in or near the armory when we arrived, they replied that 'not all people have high lvl and can go around and kill without dying. we died and had to get rez etc'. Then they KS us as we were about to leave and told us that they would report us to a GM. :(
We said we were sorry and left. They called us names and was very rude.. Not fun. We admitted that we had made a misstake since we didn´t do a campcheck.. People behaving like that gets on my nerves.. I didn´t argue with them though and my question is; if a camp has all mobs up and no PC nearby isn´t that camp empty? What do u guys think?

My philosophy :

1) You need to give people a chance to perform.

In this, you are setting a stage for leading by example. By creating the stage, an environment for them to perform and excell, you are extending yourself, your grace to them. This is usually communicating, instructing, and in real-life by possibly aquiring assets / resources they need to utilize to show their ability to perform. But, what ever it takes, give them the opportunity to perform.

2) When they show the ability, give them truefelt accolades. Build upon it.

3) When they throw it in your face, well, do not lay down. Take it to them. If you have been courteous, considerate, constructive and they have refused to be mannered, show them for the punks they are. If not, They Will Continue. This is a sad, very sad, reality. No guilt on your part.

Sigh.

It saddens us all when this occurs. But without the corrective action applied at the opportune moment, behaviour as such will cascade into continued problems in the future, and they will most likely come back to bite you in the ***.

So, perhaps, to summarize : You are just protecting your *** in the future. And mine.

Thanks!