Cleric vs Warrior...Who can solo better?Follow

I've played both - cleric all the way.

Even with an set amount of platinum, I would actually disagree and say the cleric would be the better soloist overall. Why? Well I'll explain a few points below, but really I think the cleric could get some better use from something as simple as the tribute master and the flowing thought and mana conservation enhancements, as well as being able to purchase some great Focus effect items.

But in any case - here's my argument in a senario where they have to earn their gear and plat.

1. Clerics have lull spells - this is a way for them to single pull the mobs that they want. Warriors lack this ability. While this may not matter in some zones where the spacing of mobs is more distanced, the cleric thus gains a few more options for places to pull from, such as various bandit camps.

2. Clerics can Root/Nuke - this is important. starting as low as level 9, clerics get the root spell, allowing them some safe distance between them and the mob. They have spells such as smite, which do damage comperable to spells from wizards at similar levels at the lower levels. But they shine against undead, where they have very high DD spells. Warriors have none of this. They can shoot from a distance with a bow, but have no natural way of "stopping" a mob.

3. Clerics can reverse kite - again similar to the above. They get spook the dead right at level one, and fear at level 9. This allows them another option to keep the mob away from them. Best option a warrior could ask for would be intimidation. While Clerics have no way of slowing, this is not as big of an issue when, again, fighting undead. At higher levels you can drop a dot on the undead and fear it, it runs away while taking damage. Another option, assuming the person wanted to spend the money, would be to buy the snare potions shamans can make (so someone could actually use them - and yes, technically warriors could do this too to kite, but its harder to switch the weapons around in that case).

4. Clerics can Rez - if (or when) death finally occurs for the player, the cleric has the best option for being able to get back some of the XP lost. Yes, a warrior could have someone else rez the player, but then your not 100% soloing then, and your trying to find a rez for yourself which takes time you could have been killing things.

5. Clerics have escape roots - both gate and divine aura provide quick escape plans for when the stuff hits the fan.

Now, Warriors do boast very high DPS. But warriors tactics will mostly involve running up to the mob and hoping to do more damage to it than it does to the warrior. Adds would be a very bad thing. The high HP and DPS of the warrior would allow them to kill quickly - able to kill mobs that even con white or yellow to them, sometimes with little problem. But the downtime afterwards is where they may feel the burn, as they have no routes to speed up the process short of some regen items. Clerics have to take the defensive root - but if they stick with undead foes, they can do effective damage to mob without getting hit much.

So against undead - clerics take the cake IMHO, where a warrior may be able to out gun the cleric everywhere else. But since the question was a generic one of who could solo better, I would say Clerics due to their anti-undead ability.

Hmm, I have 2 clerics (18 and 47) and I can't say that I have soloed with either very much. I have a 47 pally and 24 war and both have soloed more than grouped.

Clerics are strong group players IMHO, but I can't agree about higher leveling solo ability. Yes we get good combo of root/smite line and shine against undead. But in my experience, the root line (especially instill) is very unperdictable and often breaks when using smite.

Once you get into combat, the cleric has poor attack skills and cant take a lot of damage - stun disrupts casting.

See all the threads on battle clerics, for a more in depth discussion, but how often do you see the cleric in combat in a group setting.

Final thought, why would the clc be solo when they are probably the most in demand for groups?

rickea wrote:


hm, getting the defense skill up springs to mind.

then you don't experience /gsay: "sit down and med and heal"

Overall I think that versatility is the key to succesfull soloing.

Hybrids and pet classes shine at soloing (especially at high lvls)while pure casters and melee types have more down times and more CRs too.

Given that the cleric is much more hybrid than a warrior I would prefer the later although its also a matter of gear.

A heavily overtwinked warrior with a haversack full of different 10-dose potions and clickable items in any slot - which is moreover played by an experienced soloer - will probably not fall much behind an equally overtwinked&equipped cleric...

In response to Kajolus question, I agree that some solo work to improve defense skills up is a good thing since clcs do get hit while healing. However, the original question was who was a better solo all the way to 50 and so my question really was why should clcs who are in great(est) demand for groups want to solo to 50.

My clerics spent time in Unrest and Befallen, but I don't think you would find a clc soloing non green mobs down in the Unrest basement for example.

Again, my experiences are similar to Cobra's in that clcs didnt solo much once they got into their 20s. I am curious to know if anyone has a cleric who actually solos at lot in the 30s and 40s? If so, where and how?

I have a 55 lvl cleric I play right now. I did alot of soloing with her during the 40's and early 50's. It was slow, but getting to 65 as fast as I can has never been my priority. I wanted to do the Shawl quests, and had problems finding groups to kill the frost giants in GD, so I did it myself. I used the root and nuke method, and had pretty favorable results. Sometimes the root breaks after the 1st nuke lands but I usually get in two or more. I also soloed around in Burning Woods trying to get my spell drops. Again I used the root and nuke, with about the same results.

The plus is, while trying to restick the root, I was getting melee skill ups. I now have my offense, bash and 1H blunt maxed out. Defense is at 197 and my AC is just touching 1000 with Temp.

my 43 cleric friend soloed Undead in DL every time he didnt get a group til about 47ish or so.