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#1 Aug 08 2004 at 4:02 PM Rating: Decent
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My Wife and I have been playing for about 5 or 6 months now. We enjoy the game but are starting to get a little frustrated. Our Characters are not really under equipped, some friends who got us into it gave us some of there low level throw aways, my Ranger has a Banded Mail shirt and a Lumberjacks cap for instance.
But my Wife's Durid is having a hard time buying spells for lack of money.
So where would you go get decent money off the monsters or how do you generate income in this game?

Yeash! This sounds like my everyday life. "Where am I gonna get the money to pay for THAT!?!"

Thanks for your help and input.

Edited, Sun Aug 8 17:02:56 2004 by phnxkeep
#2 Aug 08 2004 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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What level are your characters?
#3 Aug 08 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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DOH!!!
That might be just a bit relavent...
My Ranger is 17 her Druid is 16.
Our whole EQ experience has been kill things for experience points.
#4 Aug 08 2004 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
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My Ranger is 17 her Druid is 16.
Our whole EQ experience has been kill things for experience points.
....and that for 5 or 6 months you say?

Flame me but a nice,clean,simple Ego-shooter fits your both abilities better in my opinion.
#5 Aug 08 2004 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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....and that for 5 or 6 months you say?

Flame me but a nice,clean,simple Ego-shooter fits your both abilities better in my opinion.


I don't know if I should flame or not as I do not understand what you are saying.
What is an 'Ego-Shooter'?

We play sporadically at best as we both work full time and she is in school full time as well.

Are you saying that this is too low or too high for that length of time?

I really don't know if I am not fully epressing my question, if I've not given enoughinformation or if I should be offended. Can you clarify a little please?
#6 Aug 08 2004 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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MRC is being a bit harsh I think. All types of people play EQ and enjoy it, not just those who have huge slabs of time to spend levelling up.

To make money I suggest you check out your local bazaar and see what is selling the most. Usually tradeskill items like spidersilks, then just leave a trade mule up when you're not playing and you should soon have enough pp to pick up some new items.
#7 Aug 08 2004 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent

One other question, do you have a broadband connection to the internet?

If you do, that opens up the bazaar to you during your off hours for trading. Buy low sell high, there's a hundred threads on the subject out there. It takes a while to learn what people want but you can make some money. Farm spider/spiderling silks and sell them off hours, that sort of thing.

If you're on dial up and you're just looking for a few plat head to EC,WC or eruid crossing and hunt Wisp for greater lightstones. Fill a couple backpacks full and head to North Karana for this quest. 10 to 11 pp per GLS turned in. A nice low level quest that can make you a couple hundred pp.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=374
#8 Aug 08 2004 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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For the level you are at now, head to East Karana and take on crag spiders. These will drop up to 8? spider silks. Keep the silks and sell them in the Bazaar. You should be able to fetch quite the sum of money there. You'll also be gaining XP since I believe these spiders are around level 20(been a while.)
#9 Aug 08 2004 at 9:36 PM Rating: Excellent
There is no magic solution, and no magic "uber" drops for your level. In fact even at much higher levels you will hear people bemoaning their lack of platinum. So what can you do?
1) There are many trade skills in the game. You can find out all about it here, and at www.eqtraders.com. Some tradeskills require items that only drop off mobs, or that are only available by foraging, a skill BOTH of you have. Some of the much sought after items you can easily find and collect. You may get no experience from the mobs, but then you can kill in saftey. An excellent example is Spider silk and spiderling silk (EXACTLY that name.. web graphic. Woven spider silk, and special types of spider silk may not have equal interest). High level characters hate having to run around and kill "green" spiders and spiderlings. If you spend YOUR time doing it, they will be happy to pay. Keep killing (over a few sessions on) until you have 20.. a "stack".

2) Check your bazaar to see what they are currently selling for. Check over a few days.. you will see quickly what is "normal" "high" and "bargain".

3) Now you have to options. You can /auction WTS Spiderling Silk 4p each pst. Do you know how to make a link? I assume you do. Ask here if not. Do this in PoK, and even the bazaar. If you pick the bargain price (may be higher or lower than 4p on your server) you should sell easily.

4) Your other option is, as another poster said, to go "trader mode". Buy at least one "trader satchel" from a vendor in the Bazaar (use find). Put your silks in this, stand under one of the awnings (where the other traders are) and type /trader. You now can set the price for your items, then click "trader on". Now you are a trader too! If on broadband or permanent 56k, you can go to bed and let your silks sell themselves. Under these circumstances you can choose to set either the bargain price or even normal price.

5) What else is good to sell? Hard for me to answer... check the ranger and druid sites for advice, especially for foraged items. Work on your foraging skills all the time.. there are special hot button tricks described in many locations on the net to have foraging happening continuously while you run around.

6) Some animals and creatures DO drop items that will make you a few pp. Hunt the green goblins and goblin warriors in BBM for heads and blood (around 4p each to vendors). By vendors I mean the everquest NPC merchants. Try and find ways to increase yoru charisma, to get better prices. Buy two opal encrusted steins, or get a shaman to cast a charisma buff on you. In paludal caverns, the bandits occasional drop bronze brigadine armour that sells for between 2-6p depending on the piece (again selling just to the npc vendors.. players dont want it). In a few more levels you will be killing mammoths in everfrost (mammoths are I think level 23 and up). When they drop tusks, they sell for 8p or more each to vendors (not calf tusks unfortunately). There is a wealth of special case information too.. at a bit higher level, you will track and kill Martar Icebear in everfrost every time he is up. He has a cloak that sells to vendors for just under 50p.

7) Loot everything. I'm sure you do already, but at your level and bank account level it ALL helps. So loot every item (including rusty swords) to sell off to vendors. Check corpses others have left.. you might score a nice item to sell for a few plat. You can consider sneaking into zones that you cant really hunt, just to see if there are some corpses lying around. Dont loot without asking (if others are there) but often people get jaded with common drops.

8) Offer services. This is a game where you play with others. Run a message, bring some food to a camp, track a mob, port someone (for the druid), change copper to plat at a camp (called atm). Set a price, or do it for free.. you may get a donation anyway. When you get SoW, offer buffing service in PoK. Make it donations based, many will be generous anyway.

9) Buy wisely. Set a goal eg "as a ranger I want to upgrade my Dex to help bow skills). Now research over a few nights what is available just OUT of your price range... get an idea "wish I could buy that sword with 12 dex on it". Now wait. When the price comes down, pounce.

10) Be generous. Its hard when your have little, but share advice, run errands, help the bewildered, entertain folk. Suprising and interesting things result (though that is NOT the reason to help others of course).

11) Read up: scround this site (hours of happy reading) and other ranger and druid specialist sites.

12) Learn to fight in your specialised styles. Ranger can bow kite, and in a few levels (22? 24?) you will get fear animal. Yup, they run, you hit. Druids are the master kiters (yah yah I have heard of necros). Your little duo has the makings of a good team.

13) Progress at exactly the rate you wish. EQ is full of people hurrying to a destination that they don't want to arrive at. They rush levels, then bemoan their fate when they have seen it all and done it all. If you hunt in ten different zones from level one to fifteen, then you have done (in my opinion) a MUCH better job of learning to be a ranger or druid than the "expert" who did 1-5 in the tutorial, and 6-15 in crushbone. Pfft, so they can kill an orc in a tiny zone!

14) As you learn the ropes in the bazaar, you will see people selling items for not much money that you KNOW sell for more. Feel free to buy and resell (NOT of course to overprice and rip off). You can sometimes find people selling items for LESS THAN THEY ARE WORTH TO THE NPC VENDORS! Double check every which way, then buy and make instant profit.

15) You can also hear about items that are only sold in far away zones. If it is safe for you to go there, you can offer these items at a small profit in the bazaar.. up to others to decide whether to be lazy or not.

Good hunting and enjoy the process.. thats ALL THERE IS!!

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Edited, Mon Aug 9 00:56:07 2004 by Belletrix
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Edited, Mon Aug 9 00:56:24 2004 by Belletrix
#12 Aug 08 2004 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
blank, blank? hmm mustve been top-secret lol

Anways, Forage Forage Forage!! I made a nice bit of plat simply foraging items and selling them to tradeskiller in bazaar. Vegetebles are always a good seller, but the special items are the best.

A few good places to forage:

EC or BB Mountains - forage the eggs and sell them to bakers in bazaar

Overthere - cursed clovers go for a pretty good price

Steamfont - Steamfont spring water

Greater Faydark - Cinnamon sticks and morning dew

Oncie you get level 20, try for a few lsot dungeon groups. Theres some goodies to forage and sell there also.
#13 Aug 09 2004 at 2:33 AM Rating: Decent
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One other question, do you have a broadband connection to the internet?

If you do, that opens up the bazaar to you


There is absolutely no need for a broadbat internet connection to be successful in the bazaar.

If you're on a dial-up that drops connection every 2 hours then you may have a problem but even so a lot can sell in 2 hours.

I have to say that "not having enough money for spells" is such a hackeneyed old phrase it has little credibility nowadays.

The last round of spells for the druid was at 14 and has a dozen spells in in. Some cost as must as 6pp, others a couple of gold. Lets call it 50pp total. That is only a dozen Green Goblin heads or bloods from Butcherblock and you have a ranger to track. It should take all of an hour perhaps to get them.

At the weekend I was doing a Dervish camp in North Ro with ranger and druid (13 and 12) and made around 50pp from the bronze weapon drops.

These sums are totally trivial with your level and capabilities.

Your next spell round has a load of "Ring" spells for single port to places. Ration them to the ones you think you will use. Do you plan on sending your wife solo to Grimling Forest? I doubt it. And don't bother with Tiny Companion. You are 39 levels off having a pet.

With a bit of care and pruning you might need under 100pp for those spells and have 3 levels to get that. You can kill Spiders for silk worth several thousand plat in three levels and make good exp doing it.
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#14 Aug 09 2004 at 4:51 AM Rating: Default
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....and that for 5 or 6 months you say?

Flame me but a nice, clean, simple Ego-shooter fits your both abilities better in my opinion.


I don't know if I should flame or not as I do not understand what you are saying.
What is an 'Ego-Shooter'?

We play sporadically at best as we both work full time and she is in school full time as well.

Are you saying that this is too low or too high for that length of time?

All I am saying is that by the time spent AND level achieved so far you should have had more on your mind than just monster bashing.

EQ has much to offer besides that: questing and tradeskilling. Being couple playing together makes both so much easier that it'd be a shame not to craft or quest (as you both are foragers there are a lot of interesting quested items at your level and tradeskills like brewing and baking can be done mostly on your foraged stuff too).

But if you tell me you both are neither interested in questing nor in tradeskilling and you just need plat to buy better gear to kill harder mobs...what else can I tell you but to quit EQ and go for a game that concentrates on killing stuff?

And if you just don't have time enough for anything else than a relaxing hour of slaying mobs than again ---> go for an ego-shooter!


Edited, Mon Aug 9 05:53:54 2004 by MordenRaspCleric
#15 Aug 09 2004 at 4:57 AM Rating: Decent
Explain why you call first person shooter 'Ego shooter'.
In my eyes that makes you look like a fool that dont know what your is talking about.
#16 Aug 09 2004 at 5:18 AM Rating: Good
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Explain why you call first person shooter 'Ego shooter'.
In my eyes that makes you look like a fool that dont know what your is talking about.


You have to ignore the person posting as MordenRaspCleric. They have very limited knowledge and very strong opinions - very reminiscent of Leiany in her prime.

People can be forgiven for thinking that exping is all there is to the game and inventing your own word for a genre (FPS) does nothing for your credibility. You probably don't have English (or American) as their first language and perhaps translate "First person" as "ego". Try looking up arrogant, ignorant and opinionated in your translator.

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But if you tell me you both are neither interested in questing nor in tradeskilling and you just need plat to buy better gear to kill harder mobs...what else can I tell you but to quit EQ and go for a game that concentrates on killing stuff?


This is classic "play it my way or get out" obnoxiousness. Strangely enough many, many people play EQ to improve gear and kill harder stuff. I know some excellent and very skilled players who have absolutely no interest in tradeskills and only do quests directly related to upgrading gear. This is more probably the norm in EQ than the fuzzy quest and tradeskill philosophy being proposed as normal by the person posting as MRC. Under that ruling perhaps they should get out of EQ and leave it to the people who like killing stuff.

However I wouldn't suggest that because there is room in the game for people pursuing all paths. Don't feel obliged to tradeskill or quest if you don't find them interesting. The game is perfectly playable as a mob-slaying game. In fact aside from some fairly restricted quests the quest structure of EQ is pretty sparse in the mid-levels.

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#17 Aug 09 2004 at 5:20 AM Rating: Decent
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First of all, I do not fully agree with MRCleric. nobody should tell you what you should be doing. level as fast as your time permits, do as you are pleased. that's the diversity of the game. some kill, some explore, some tradeskill, some do quests, or mixtures of all... doesn't matter what, as long as you're having fun Smiley: smile

money-wise, here a few links which you might want to check out. use the search forums functionality here on alla or google to get more infos.

http://www.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=1&mid=1079053144647992669 (here especially Yanaris post)

http://www.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=1&mid=1087256715975397976 (nice guide from BODragon)

http://www.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=1&mid=1079969089713348338

good luck :)

EDIT: link

Edited, Mon Aug 9 09:06:32 2004 by Kajolus
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#18 Aug 09 2004 at 5:24 AM Rating: Default
BumbiRagnar wrote:
Explain why you call first person shooter 'Ego shooter'.
In my eyes that makes you look like a fool that dont know what your is talking about.
Try this: Google Search for "Ego-Shooter"

...but maybe google doesn't know what it's talking about too... ;)
#19 Aug 09 2004 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
MordenRaspCleric wrote:
BumbiRagnar wrote:
Explain why you call first person shooter 'Ego shooter'.
In my eyes that makes you look like a fool that dont know what your is talking about.
Try this: Google Search for "Ego-Shooter"

...but maybe google doesn't know what it's talking about too... ;)


I will find homepages, comments etc made by ignorent people like yourself.
Anyways, Cobra seems to be very wise and made much sense so I rated his post 5.
#20 Aug 09 2004 at 5:47 AM Rating: Default
BumbiRagnar wrote:

I will find homepages, comments etc made by ignorent people like yourself.
including companies like PC Action , Eidos
Germanlawjournal , Gamershell
and last but not least Sony's very own site: playstation.com .

You must hold yourself in very high regard from how you judge about these sites (or the people who are behind) - I just fail to see the reason why...


Edited, Mon Aug 9 06:54:15 2004 by MordenRaspCleric
#21 Aug 09 2004 at 6:20 AM Rating: Default
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...and inventing your own word for a genre (FPS) does nothing for your credibility....
regarding the above posts you can declare that I did misunderstand you - and that you didn't mean that I invented the term "Ego-shooter".

But more amusing would be if you did mean it....and you'd be so stubborn that you will still try to prove your point... :D
#22 Aug 09 2004 at 6:32 AM Rating: Decent
Hiya

As a Ranger you should have no prob getting plat.

Just use your tracking skills to find mobs for people , you'll be amazed how much you can accumilate. Either look out for messages asking for help finding something or put an ooc out in one of the busy zones offering your services as a tracker. Greater Faydark seems to be good for this.

If you're on Morden Rasp and need any help send me a tell.

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#23 Aug 09 2004 at 6:53 AM Rating: Good
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#24 Aug 09 2004 at 7:26 AM Rating: Default
Does this count for an answer regarding "inventing the term ego-shooter" in your opinion?
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It is very possible that these folks are in fact very new to the game. It is easy for many of us to take for granted all of the means and methods to level and make money. If in fact they are new they may not be aware of all the resources out there. Play styles differ and folks play for different reasons.

I would suggest that you follow the above suggestions regarding trade skill items. I would suggest you use this site to perhaps seek out some fun quests to look into (although not required if that is not your thing). Level at your own pace but take the time to really look around...it is a very large world and this site offers alot of info on many aspects of the game.

Enjoy

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#26 Aug 09 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
I have also been playing for about 6 months, play both a ranger and a druid and am not all that much further along in level then your duo.

On the subject of level, I think that you shouldn't worry about what level someone else thinks you *should* be by now. If you're enjoying the game and want to continue to play then you are doing just fine!

Now regarding earning potential, I have a comment...

Forage, forage, forage! It's been said before but bears repeating... Forage is your friend. It represents everything other, less fortunate players, (of characters without the skill), want and are willing to buy from you, all at a substantial profit.

Morning dew, cinnamon sticks, plains roots, Griffon eggs and even the lowly vegatables are all worth big money to players who have no other way to get them. When bored, I have even sent my ranger to a juicy zone just to forage. No hunting, just hang out and mash the forage hot button while fishing or watching mobs path.

If you both have the LDoN expansion installed, you should go and get your adventurer's stones right away as this will allow you to use the Magus network to move around and will also prepare you to start going on LDoN adventures. If you don't yet have it, get it soon!

Once you can start going on LDoN adventurers, your forage possibilities expand that much further. Bazaar pricing on the *rare* forage items from these dungeons is nothing short of amazing.

Sand Verbena, Goblin Bones, Geodes and Gargoyle Granite all go for 100 - 200 plat for each piece and between your 2 characters you should average around a half dozen rare items per adventure. If you did two LDoNs, (at 1.5 hours each), per weekend you would be taking in about 1500 plat a week there alone! Add to this that there are good forage items in the zones you need to go through to get to the adventures and you're really starting to rake in the dough!

And finally, if you both have the GoD expansion, consider traveling to Nadaria's Landing and duoing the instanced dungeon that is available from there. You'll need your LDoN stones to get there and the GoD expansion to get into the dungeon but it is instanced for you and you can hunt in there as often as you like. The XP is good and the money drops aren't bad so it's a win, win situation.

Good luck and good hunting. More important, good foraging!
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