Madahme wrote:
To somebody in a under devoloped country this is a HUGE amount of money. (...) $55 a month which is about what an enlisted person makes in the Russian military.
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So, looking at this another way, you are saying that Yantis/IGE is responsible for improving the standard of living in underdeveloped countries?
Yes I sell Plat...BFD. If it wasn't me it would be somebody else. Decent, tidy all the same to me. As I said in one thread you got that blurb of mine from, I pay my car and my insurance payments with my PP sales. So what? I figure if I don't do it somebody else will. I know a lot of people say the same thing and we are what is wrong with the game...yaddayaddaya. I have never bought PP in my life, and yet I have enough to do the things I just said. My highest level toon is on my magelo. Obviously not uber enough to farm crazy stuff. How do I do it? Very easily.
I have a real job that I work, very hard at. I would work OT, but I am payed on salary. So I figure why not make money at something I enjoy. Against the EULA...Ha. People spam PP sales on the OOC in the bazaar on VZ, ALL DAY LONG. (Not me. I sell to mysupersales.) People like me are the root of all evil, I know, but if it wasn't for people like me, who would you people point your fingers at and flame to hell and back.
MordenA$$Cleric, that was completly juvinille of you to start an entire thread based on a pair of my comments and creating a $hitstorm for your own amusement. But whatever, its just a msg board and I really do not care that much.
I do what I do because I can, the same reason a lot of other people do the same too. I am not the worst case of it either. Go check out the macroquest website sometime if you want to know where EQ's REAL problems are rooted from. They do 100X the damage to the eq economy then people like me EVER can.
Live and let live people, different people play the game for different reasons. My first reason for play is to have fun. If I game for 4 hours a night 3.5 of those are dedicated to XP'ing and such. I spend a half hour playing in the bazaar, making moves to make my PP. That doesn't sound too much like I am sinking my life into it. I play on a PvP server, which has an already inflated economy. There is no solution to this, so why not take part in the problem. I am not willing to watch people make a KILLING on PP sales when I have the knowledge and sense to do the EXACT same thing.
Am I a bad selfish person? I guess. One thing I want all you people to know though is that all my good friends in game enjoy the spoils of my profits almost as much as I do. I share my fortune with all those I deem as worthy companions. I have good friends in game that are dirt poor and I take them shopping or give them items regularlly. I am not a total *******, like most of you think. I just do things a different way for different reasons. I know a lot of people on these boards probably do what I do, they just don't want to get flamed. I really could care less, what people think/say.
Honestly I don't think I would do this if I played on a different server, it would feel wrong I think. People don't come here to roleplay and such though usually. They come to have the most uber gear they can to beat up the next guy. So I cater to my clientle as I see it. Have fun, I'm sure all you self righteous types are about to char me to a crisp.
I have a real job that I work, very hard at. I would work OT, but I am payed on salary. So I figure why not make money at something I enjoy. Against the EULA...Ha. People spam PP sales on the OOC in the bazaar on VZ, ALL DAY LONG. (Not me. I sell to mysupersales.) People like me are the root of all evil, I know, but if it wasn't for people like me, who would you people point your fingers at and flame to hell and back.
MordenA$$Cleric, that was completly juvinille of you to start an entire thread based on a pair of my comments and creating a $hitstorm for your own amusement. But whatever, its just a msg board and I really do not care that much.
I do what I do because I can, the same reason a lot of other people do the same too. I am not the worst case of it either. Go check out the macroquest website sometime if you want to know where EQ's REAL problems are rooted from. They do 100X the damage to the eq economy then people like me EVER can.
Live and let live people, different people play the game for different reasons. My first reason for play is to have fun. If I game for 4 hours a night 3.5 of those are dedicated to XP'ing and such. I spend a half hour playing in the bazaar, making moves to make my PP. That doesn't sound too much like I am sinking my life into it. I play on a PvP server, which has an already inflated economy. There is no solution to this, so why not take part in the problem. I am not willing to watch people make a KILLING on PP sales when I have the knowledge and sense to do the EXACT same thing.
Am I a bad selfish person? I guess. One thing I want all you people to know though is that all my good friends in game enjoy the spoils of my profits almost as much as I do. I share my fortune with all those I deem as worthy companions. I have good friends in game that are dirt poor and I take them shopping or give them items regularlly. I am not a total *******, like most of you think. I just do things a different way for different reasons. I know a lot of people on these boards probably do what I do, they just don't want to get flamed. I really could care less, what people think/say.
Honestly I don't think I would do this if I played on a different server, it would feel wrong I think. People don't come here to roleplay and such though usually. They come to have the most uber gear they can to beat up the next guy. So I cater to my clientle as I see it. Have fun, I'm sure all you self righteous types are about to char me to a crisp.
You all know where I stand on this issue from my post above.
But..
I know many of the 24/7 buyer sellers are in highschool. Kids.
1) If I where a parent, did not play the game and know of the intra-gamming issues we are discusssing..
2) I see my kid at the computer buying and selling in an economic simulation...
3) He asks me to open a Pay-Pal account into his new bank account ..
4) I see him making $200 to $500 dollars a month..
5) I would be so proud. And you bet, I would have him work this into his interview with the two Harvard Alumni pending his acceptence into University.
Heck, back in the day that money would have covered my Moto-cross racing and photo gear.
It is not their fault.
But..
I know many of the 24/7 buyer sellers are in highschool. Kids.
1) If I where a parent, did not play the game and know of the intra-gamming issues we are discusssing..
2) I see my kid at the computer buying and selling in an economic simulation...
3) He asks me to open a Pay-Pal account into his new bank account ..
4) I see him making $200 to $500 dollars a month..
5) I would be so proud. And you bet, I would have him work this into his interview with the two Harvard Alumni pending his acceptence into University.
Heck, back in the day that money would have covered my Moto-cross racing and photo gear.
It is not their fault.
Someone is just being one hell of a businessman. For someone to come up with the concept of selling 0's and 1's for money, then let he or she do it.
If Sony really wanted to shut this person down then why have they not accolpmished this?
Its a free market and there are plenty of people who are willing to pay for the person's services.
If Sony really wanted to shut this person down then why have they not accolpmished this?
Its a free market and there are plenty of people who are willing to pay for the person's services.
neverdone wrote:
I see him making $200 to $500 dollars a month...
Grulkraad wrote:
Posted @ Mon, Aug 2nd 2:54 PM 2004
MordenA$$Cleric, that was completly juvinille of you to start an entire thread based on a pair of my comments and creating a $hitstorm for your own amusement. But whatever, its just a msg board and I really do not care that much.
MordenA$$Cleric, that was completly juvinille of you to start an entire thread based on a pair of my comments and creating a $hitstorm for your own amusement. But whatever, its just a msg board and I really do not care that much.
Grulkraad wrote:
Posted @ Mon, Aug 2nd 4:36 PM 2004
I am never going to post on these boards again.
I am never going to post on these boards again.
This one is even better! - THX :D
Edited, Mon Aug 2 16:56:10 2004 by MordenRaspCleric
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If it wasn't me it would be somebody else
The classic excuse of the morally bankrupt.
Wherever I go - there I am.
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I know people who have switched classes
You really think we can't tell the difference?
I didn't say anything about people buying a high level class out of the blue, people who switch classes and/or buy a toon to return to the game are just as 'e-bay.'
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people who switch classes and/or buy a toon to return to the game are just as 'e-bay.
A person who switches classes or returns with a purchased toon already knows how the game works, knows the controls, mechanics, zones, etc..
By the way, with as easy as it is to level up these days, even buying a toon to come back to the game is pretty lame, in my opinion. At least those people know how to respond to a tell!
Eventually, buying plat and equipment ceases to be an issue, simply because the only upgrades of any significance or value are no drop.
However, it has changed the perspective of what makes a respectable character, that is for certain. Unfortunately for the Level 65 with 300 AAs and all crafted or quested equipment, he/she is now lumped into the same category as the lame ebayer or pitiful plat buyer. And viewed with considerable skeptiscism until they prove themselves.
What it does lead to is a deepening of the rift between the "casual" player and the dedicated "raiding" player.
Which can't be good for the community.
However, it has changed the perspective of what makes a respectable character, that is for certain. Unfortunately for the Level 65 with 300 AAs and all crafted or quested equipment, he/she is now lumped into the same category as the lame ebayer or pitiful plat buyer. And viewed with considerable skeptiscism until they prove themselves.
What it does lead to is a deepening of the rift between the "casual" player and the dedicated "raiding" player.
Which can't be good for the community.
Iluien wrote:
And viewed with considerable skeptiscism until they prove themselves.
MordenRaspCleric wrote:
Iluien wrote:
And viewed with considerable skeptiscism until they prove themselves.
There ws a time when someone wearing a pair of Mithril Gaulntlets would have been viewed with respect and accepted as a worthy companion on face value.
Nowadays, the chances are that someone wearing Mithril Gauntlets would not even know the name of the mob that drops them, let alone having ever set foot in NToV.
Lol, whoever it was that nuked my post, would you care to explain what it is that you have taken such great offense at?
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So, looking at this another way, you are saying that Yantis/IGE is responsible for improving the standard of living in underdeveloped countries?
If you really want to twist things and scew the hell out of the intent of my post, then yes you could say that. Along the same lines, it would be sorta like blaming the existence of McD's for all the overweight people in the U.S.A.
If you really believe what you typed, please for the love of pete...don't go outside without a chaperone.
Iluien wrote:
Nowadays, the chances are that someone wearing Mithril Gauntlets would not even know the name of the mob that drops them, let alone having ever set foot in NToV.
Madahme wrote:
If you really believe what you typed, please for the love of pete...don't go outside without a chaperone.
after that one. While I am not being serious about raising standards of living, I think you have an excellent point. We tend to discount the value of $50 a month only because that is a trivial amount to many of us. I thank you for pointing out a socioeconomic bias I hadn't considered.
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