Casting in the BazaarFollow

I agree that bards spamming AOE songs in the trader stalls was very annoying. The hide trader function they added has solved this problem though.

IT hides the trader but not the spell spam.... Is it me or is the bazaar turned in to kids fighting/ swearing about dueling each other that is annonying...

Leaving your bard songs up while in trader mode is an easy way to skill up in the instruments... I wouldn't leave my AOE DDs or anything on, I know that would annoy everyone. It probably does add to the lag some but what are you gonna do

Edited, Thu Jul 29 09:53:06 2004 by SiberianGuard

Probably since you can give Traders mod rods.

There's better places to raise bard songs than the Bazaar. Go to the Arena (the outer ring, not the PvP section) and let yourself play brass AEs all night if you want to skill up. Dancing around a trader stall all night just gives bards a bad name.

You can start a song and then turn on your trader, and the song will still be up. You will continue to skill up in the instrument even while trader is on. It's a way to kill two birds with one stone while you're AFK.

Edited, Thu Jul 29 12:38:33 2004 by SiberianGuard

It gives people something to complain about.

Anyway, just turn off spell effects while in teh bazaar, problem solved...

Aside from:

A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!
A_Retarded_Bard01 tries to cast a spell on YOU but you are protected!!

Actually, I'll admit it's usually not too much to worry about but, since there's no real pressing reason to have to practice in the Bazaar aside from sheer laziness and not caring about others, bards who do so get no sympathy from me.

So, going afk while skilling up bard instrumental skills (which btw takes FOREVER) is an exploit? Is going afk while medding an exploit?

I dont see how going afk while playing an instrument is considered an exploit. You are not running any 3rd party software, you are not manipulating the macro's to your advantage, you are simply starting a song and then going off and doing something more constructive than watching a screen of you playing an instrument.

Let's say that I start up a group song of restoration. Now this affects no one else that is not in my group, now if I want to just practice it and do nothing else, according to the previous statement, I must now sit and watch my screen (which is not technically going afk), and mindlessly wait for the skillups.

HOW is this any different than me starting up the exact same song, and going afk? How is it adversly effecting anyone one else? How could this be considered an exploit?

Let's say I slammed through 5 lvls by turning in bone chips and gnoll fangs in Qeynos, now I sit my Wizard down and med....if I go afk while medding and my Meditate skill goes up the extra 25 points...am I practicing an exploit?

I am not arguing that playing songs in the bazaar is rude, but I am arguing that for someone to go afk while practicing a song skill (which are notoriously lengthy to raise) is an exploit.

Bazaar for me is a bit tedious if you want to buy something. When I go there I just suck it up, dial down the clip plane and deal with it. Switch to overhead camera, use find trader and follow the path. If I have 'my big ogre' in trader mode, I turn off every filter I can and flip out of 1st person camera angle.

Nowadays on MR server I have /ooc and /shout turned off if I go to PoK or any newbie zone (unless I need C1 or SoW hehe). The inane level of /ooc spam has become intolerable in these places. Sometimes I will watch the chit-chat in the bazaar but I shut it off there too.

I haven't seen Saryrn with more than 400 traders in the Bazaar in ages. You're just too lazy to walk 10' feet and find a spot not right by the banks

Just yanking your chain.

I always set up near the back. With the Find command there's no sane reason to put yourself into that mess of idiots by the bank.

I have assumed that the majority of people these days have traders hidden by default. When you find an item you want, you right click the trader's name on the search screen and *bam* they appear.

The only trader I see on my screen is the one I want. What reason is there now for traders to be anywhere but right by the banks?

As long as your song isn't filling everyones windows with spam theres no problem with it IMO. And at the worst, the spam fills your window and you miss out on what, a bunch of /ooc and /auction messages selling items while you're AFK? It's just an annoyance and a bit rude, nothing to cry over. And it's hardly an exploit to AFK train songs.

Also, something that always bugged me about the bazaar is how people would pile up on the bank corners. More than a few times I've needed an item from someone packed in those sardine spots and haven't been able to right click on them without hitting someone else. It has to be laziness, there's no other reason to cram in there. I always figured fine, ***** you jackass I'll take my plat elsewhere. Finally, now that you can keep all the traders hidden and only the one you hit find on is visible this problem is solved. Thank God.

The bazaar does lag for me, but I generally run around in 1st person facing straight at the ground unless I'm following a path. Runs smooth if you don't mind staring at the floor and using the map.

Edited, Mon Aug 2 02:30:51 2004 by SiberianGuard