LDoN solo?Follow

I don't have Lost Dungeons yet mainly because I'm on dial-up and it wouldn't be fair to my group to lag constantly or go LD. This being said, I still want to do these adventures but by myself for now. Is this possible? Please forgive me, but when LDoN came out, I was on a 2 year EQ hiatus so I'm not even sure how the whole thing works. Can they be soloed?

Thanks for the quick response. I just found a link here on Alaa's telling some unknown info. How do you know OoW will have soloable adventures? Is that part of the release info on Sony's page?

I didn't read any connection between these "tasks" and LDoN. That description looks to me like they want to test a dynamic quest engine.

Several new games are talking about this which they claim will prevent the queueing and spoilers that are currently available for MMOG quests.

So that for the same or similar reward one player might be asked to collect 2 fire beetle eyes and an orc truss while another is asked for 3 rat ears and rusty vibrator.

I suspect this is another part of the EQ2 stealth beta.


On the OP:

It is technically possible to solo an LDoN if you find 2 people to get the adventure with who are willing to drop out and let you do it alone. However the way the mobs are laid out means that unless you can be pretty sure of single-pulling (Pacify or similar) then some sort of CC is needed. Also the actual dungeon you get is random from a set of 10. Some layouts are much harder than others from this angle. Some of the Rujarkan ones for example start you right next to a junction with about 6 mobs round it while others start in a big cave where the mobs can be single pulled without any spells.

Given the gimp-tacular experience and loot in LDoNs these days (nerf, nerf, nerf) I don't know why anyone would want to do a solo LDoN aside from the giggles of saying they're doing a solo LDoN. You might get lucky on a collect, but I doubt most solo people could win one within the allotted time.

It's about time that SOE is listening with earnest to player feedback. Let's just hope that the next step of implementing player feedback happens.

Actually a lot of the high end game is raid content. To be able to equip yourself decently for such things without farming for years to get the money to buy the best stuff in the bazaar solo LDONs would help a lot. Sometimes it's really tuff to get a LDON group in the place you need something.

Hence the qualifier "potentially" soloable. There's nothing really preventing you from taking on raid mobs solo except that you'll die a fast and miserable death. Be that as it may, even discounting raid mobs, there's plenty of things a lvl 65 can solo on. No offense, but if you're arguing that there's a lack of mobs to solo on, I'm going to laugh at you.

Group LDoNs already help. That was the whole idea: Casual group content in dungeons that'd allow people to gain meaningful equipment upgrades over time.

Cry me a river. Do you think it'll be easier for rogues and warriors to get the LDoN groups that they need once you get your solo dungeons? This goes back to the entitlement issue above -- you're worried about what's best for you. If you want a group in a place like DGuk, then go form a group. You say you need this gear for high level raid content which implies you must be in a guild so why on earth isn't your guild helping you do LDoNs for the gear you can all benefit from?

Edited, Wed Jun 9 12:37:54 2004 by Jophiel

Good. You should have hit Copy+Paste while you were there

Not to be dense, but I didn't see anything on Class-specific (and class balanced) solo LDoNs in any of the original post "overviews" on any of the sites linked. I'll admit to having skimmed, but then again I only need to read about debuff slots and PoTime instances so many times.

If you have a direct link to something talking about class specific solo LDoN instacing, that'd be great. I honestly don't have the time or inclination to go through eight ten page posts all basicly saying the same thing over and over.

I looked for a bit. I can't the one that said it would be designed around class skills. Yesterday was a slow day and I read way too much EQ stuff. If I stumble across it again I'll tell you.



It was a quote from GU by Rowyl http://forums.gucomics.com/viewtopic.php?t=2220&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

That is as good as an example I can link.

I play a rogue so I'm really not into soloing - perhaps duo missions could be doable. However, if they are thinking to add some new LDoN content, I'd love to see missions designed for slightly larger groups of people.

For example, I'd love to bring along a 7th or 8th player to our group and not take the huge raid exp penalty. AFAIK, there are actually exp *bonuses* for getting to six, but beyond that we get hammered with this giant penalty.

I think in the context of LDoN, 7-9 people (tiny raids) make a lot of sense: they allow us to involve more people. We keep the level restrictions, so we aren't really powerleveling anyone. I'm not saying these alternative missions should be easy. I'm willing to sacrifice some of the giant six person exp bonus (or all of it) to be able to include more people. Most of the people who spend significant time LFG are damage dealers of some kind who could be easily added once some kind of crowed control, healing and tanking are established.

Also, raids for small guilds would be nice. Perhaps make 2 group and 3 group raids? Just the assurance that we will get to smack a couple named mobs at the end who drop normal LDoN named loots would be fine. They could call these "practice raids" for the existing LDoN raids which I have never experienced.

Lastly, I don't see why the strict tier system is needed for LDoN. Why is it that at avg group level 62.9 we get a really trivial mission but at 63.0 we get a far rougher mission? Why not just set the average mob level to the group level minus, say, 6.5 for a normal, 4.0 for a "moderate" and 1.5 for a "hard"?

When our average group level was 62.9, we could do hard mission consistently, and normal missions were trivial and the exp was terrible. When our group justed dinged 58, we had a very hard time winning on normal, but the exp was great.

I still want to be able to have a good challange and right now we are stuck between the 63-65 normal missions, which are pretty trivial for us, and the hard which we just can't kill fast enough to win in.
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Haha! I got rated down for asking for sources on the solo, class specific LDoNs

Goobers

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"Hence the qualifier "potentially" soloable. There's nothing really preventing you from taking on raid mobs solo except that you'll die a fast and miserable death. Be that as it may, even discounting raid mobs, there's plenty of things a lvl 65 can solo on. No offense, but if you're arguing that there's a lack of mobs to solo on, I'm going to laugh at you."

I was talking about getting the LDON equipment more then anything here.

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To be able to equip yourself decently for such things without farming for years to get the money to buy the best stuff in the bazaar solo LDONs would help a lot.
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"Group LDoNs already help. That was the whole idea: Casual group content in dungeons that'd allow people to gain meaningful equipment upgrades over time."

I realize this, but they already dropped it to 3 people, but I don't see any reason why they couldn't have a solo version for less points. I am not in a guild and I prefer to solo most of the time and though I would like to get in a guild the requirements these days are rather lofty.

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Sometimes it's really tuff to get a LDON group in the place you need something
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"Cry me a river. Do you think it'll be easier for rogues and warriors to get the LDoN groups that they need once you get your solo dungeons? This goes back to the entitlement issue above -- you're worried about what's best for you. If you want a group in a place like DGuk, then go form a group. You say you need this gear for high level raid content which implies you must be in a guild so why on earth isn't your guild helping you do LDoNs for the gear you can all benefit from?"

Well warriors and rogues are always welcome in groups. I don't worry about them to much. I play a necromancer and though they have uses in groups they are usually one of the last to get picked. Rogues are better DPS then a necro and every good group needs a tank, slower, healer. Really there is no reason to deny the ability to do LDONs solo for less points IMO.