I was just wondering why I can no longer rate people's posts under items, and beasts? Also, not sure how or why (I think I peeved a couple of people off in game and they came here and rated my posts badly) but some of the posts I have made that are informative (in my opinion) are rated terribly.
For instace this:
Posted @ Fri, Oct 10th 7:26 PM 2003
By: BertoxxChantress
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According to Lucy this spell has a chance to absorb a portion of magic damage.
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what is Lucy??
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RE: Lucy????
Posted @ Tue, Dec 2nd 5:50 AM 2003
By: Mistress EboniteMindreaver
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Where my responce is a link to Lucy's main page. See this link:
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=4076
Just wondering why I can no longer rate people's posts and if there is a way to "reset" my default post rating or something.
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Leiany?
No.
Coercer is a high level (forget which title) Enchanter. Leiany wasn't anywhere near that.
It does illustrate the dangers though of crossover between board and game. You risk being harrassed or trained in-game because of something you said here or harrassed here by some nitwit who didn't like you in-game.
The reason you cannot rate posts is because your "posting karma" has fallen below 3.00. This is a defense mechanism to protect the board from abuses. If you think you have a decent case for it being undeserved then perhaps a mod could reset it.
In many ways however it would be simpler to just register another identity which will start with a clean slate.
At the same time I don't know how important it is to be able to "rate" people. I know when I've turned off the default filter some of the posts in the item database can be a little extreme and I usually wend up glad someone rated them down so i couldn't see them.
Coercer is a high level (forget which title) Enchanter. Leiany wasn't anywhere near that.
It does illustrate the dangers though of crossover between board and game. You risk being harrassed or trained in-game because of something you said here or harrassed here by some nitwit who didn't like you in-game.
The reason you cannot rate posts is because your "posting karma" has fallen below 3.00. This is a defense mechanism to protect the board from abuses. If you think you have a decent case for it being undeserved then perhaps a mod could reset it.
In many ways however it would be simpler to just register another identity which will start with a clean slate.
At the same time I don't know how important it is to be able to "rate" people. I know when I've turned off the default filter some of the posts in the item database can be a little extreme and I usually wend up glad someone rated them down so i couldn't see them.
Wherever I go - there I am.
You need to look at the rating system in a different way. If you are rated above 3.0 that means too many people agree with you too often. It's easy to have people agree with you, all you need do is post what they want to hear over and over again.
If you are rated below 3.0 it means that people don't know what to think about your ideas and you succeeded in arousing an emotional response in them large enough to have them take the time to select a sub-3 rating for your post, click the 'rate posts' button, wait for the page to refresh, then scroll back to your post to gloat over how much they were able to affect your rating.
If we all had ratings of 5, we would be a group of fawning sycophants stroking each other's ego's like ants stroking aphids for their secreted milk. Leiany had a sub-3 rating and now that she is gone, everyone apparently misses bashing her and wants her back.
The real problem here is that linking the ability to rate posts to your overall rating is needlessly discriminatory. It is saying that if people don't agree with your ideas, then you don't warrant the ability to rate their ideas either. Everyone should have a voice, even the if it is an unpopular one. What exactly is an open forum without dissent?
If you are rated below 3.0 it means that people don't know what to think about your ideas and you succeeded in arousing an emotional response in them large enough to have them take the time to select a sub-3 rating for your post, click the 'rate posts' button, wait for the page to refresh, then scroll back to your post to gloat over how much they were able to affect your rating.
If we all had ratings of 5, we would be a group of fawning sycophants stroking each other's ego's like ants stroking aphids for their secreted milk. Leiany had a sub-3 rating and now that she is gone, everyone apparently misses bashing her and wants her back.
The real problem here is that linking the ability to rate posts to your overall rating is needlessly discriminatory. It is saying that if people don't agree with your ideas, then you don't warrant the ability to rate their ideas either. Everyone should have a voice, even the if it is an unpopular one. What exactly is an open forum without dissent?
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Everyone should have a voice, even the if it is an unpopular one. What exactly is an open forum without dissent?
But being unable to rate doesn't stop them posting. Their voice can still be heard. Nothing prevents them from dissenting.
Wherever I go - there I am.
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If you are rated below 3.0 it means that people don't know what to think about your ideas and you succeeded in arousing an emotional response in them large enough to have them take the time to select a sub-3 rating for your post, click the 'rate posts' button, wait for the page to refresh, then scroll back to your post to gloat over how much they were able to affect your rating.
I get annoyed about not being able to rate down about once per month so for me its not a huge issue.
if people rate down a good instructive post on EQMain one of the regulars usually boost it back up again fairly soon. the only time you can have a major problem is when you are rate stalked and KAolain is very pro-active on this matter and will recify it if you are genuinely effected.
if it makes you feel better i had a rating of 2.34 when i came to these forums due to the nature of posting on items and zone content. These are nuked on a regular basis regrardless on the quality of your information.
I no longer post anywhere other than EQMain or OoT/Asylum.
Cobra101 wrote:
The reason you cannot rate posts is because your "posting karma" has fallen below 3.00.
Funny, those non-forum pages are where my posts got the worst nukes. Making a humorous comment or posting corrective information is the kiss of death. nuker jerks
Edited, Wed May 19 13:38:06 2004 by Yanari
Cobra wrote:
But being unable to rate doesn't stop them posting. Their voice can still be heard. Nothing prevents them from dissenting.
1) It allows those with 3+ ratings to silence other's posts by rating them down below the default filter.
2) It prevents those with <3 ratings from voting for OR against their fellow posters. They aren't deemed worthy to vote with their 'betters'.
3) Creates a subconscious level of fear of being voted down, resulting in people being in general more civil in their posts.
Thus the rating system is both good and evil. It artificially sustains a higher level of post quality at the cost of silencing (both by making their posts invisible, and by taking away the right to voice opinion by voting) those the majority don't like or agree with.
I think the intent of the system is good, but one could argue the cost of censorship relative to the value gained. Personally, I feel that the high quality of posts and thoughtful opinions of most posters here makes the rating censorship system mostly pointless.
your rating is too low, ratin you up now hehe
Heh, not sure who Leiany is but no I am who my forum name is. I am (and have been) n Alla premium member for a few years now. You can check the link in my sig for my Guild Affiliation as well as my magelo account.
I used to run the default filter until one day I started noticing a lot of missing posts in the beastiary and items forums. So... I turn off the filter and I start noticing that I was missing a lot of quality information as well as some real garbage. It was the quality info that I was missing that made me decide to put up with the garbage.
I was more interested in voting people upwards who had posted good information and had been voted down because of a situation that may have been similar to mine. I was hoping to help push the informative posts up above the the rating where the default filter would cut them out for people who use that filter. It is a shame that some of the really informative posts have been rated below a three and the people running the default filter will never see them.
Anyway, thank you for the responces to this post. If you search the beastiary and items forums with the default filter off and you see a post that is a good post and it is rated below a three do the people who are running the default filter a favor and try to push it up above 3.
Thanks and have a nice day guys.
Oh, and to Cobra 101 I use my game name here and my premium membership name. Not sure how I could change that even if I wanted to. I try to be as helpful in the game as I am here and when some one sees a post by me that knows me from the server I want them to know that I am being as hnest and open as I can about the information I provided.
Maybe a mod can search for posts by me and see if they can at least reset them to 3.0 or something. I dunno. I just like helping people lol.
I used to run the default filter until one day I started noticing a lot of missing posts in the beastiary and items forums. So... I turn off the filter and I start noticing that I was missing a lot of quality information as well as some real garbage. It was the quality info that I was missing that made me decide to put up with the garbage.
I was more interested in voting people upwards who had posted good information and had been voted down because of a situation that may have been similar to mine. I was hoping to help push the informative posts up above the the rating where the default filter would cut them out for people who use that filter. It is a shame that some of the really informative posts have been rated below a three and the people running the default filter will never see them.
Anyway, thank you for the responces to this post. If you search the beastiary and items forums with the default filter off and you see a post that is a good post and it is rated below a three do the people who are running the default filter a favor and try to push it up above 3.
Thanks and have a nice day guys.
Oh, and to Cobra 101 I use my game name here and my premium membership name. Not sure how I could change that even if I wanted to. I try to be as helpful in the game as I am here and when some one sees a post by me that knows me from the server I want them to know that I am being as hnest and open as I can about the information I provided.
Maybe a mod can search for posts by me and see if they can at least reset them to 3.0 or something. I dunno. I just like helping people lol.
The item rating thing has since been fixed, in case anyone was curius about that.
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