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there just are some items that merchants dont want as they are worthless, NO DROP, or NO RENT items.

still does not mean it is worth anything to the merchants.

there are 3 reasons as i stated. only no drop and no rent are 2, but the 3rd is worthless item.

some items are just that way.

Plus keep in mind that just because someone gave it to you, that does not mean that it was not picked up as a no drop/no rent item by THAT person.

Otizlee wrote:


I find that many items (like a lot of foraged items), have no value... at least not to merchants. Some of these are NO DROP or NO RENT but not all of them...

Anyway, the *I will give you absolutely nothing for the blah blah* message seems to be the same whether the item is NO DROP or not.

Oddly enough, I've also been coming across a growing number of items that are virtually worthless in Bazaar but command a nice price when offered to a merchant with whom I have good faction.

Gives me hope for an active 2nd career as a commodities trader.

Buying up people's *junk* in bazaar at bargain prices and rolling it over to merchants for a tidy profit seems like an interesting alternative to the infamous spiderling silk / bone chips route to riches!

Lady rhaiynebow wrote:


Ummmmm... Thank you, but now I have two!

Some perfectly nice things are worthless to vendors. I once offered a Centi longsword by mistake and the vendor offered 2cp.

The magic H2H weapons that drop in Shadeweaver like Horns of the Spirits may not be fantastic but they are a heck of a lot better than a rusty longsword and yet thet sells for a couple of gold and they only sell for a silver.

Also personal opinion here:
If someone gives you a gift like that then either use it, pass it on or hand it back with an explanation of why you can't accept it. Accepting gifts and then turning round and vendoring them (or selling in the bazaar) is pretty cheesy in my opinion unless it was a part of the gift (as in "if you can't use it sell it").

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Plus keep in mind that just because someone gave it to you, that does not mean that it was not picked up as a no drop/no rent item by THAT person.
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You can trade a No Rent item but not a No Drop item Lady R.

Also, the patchwork jetsam is from the LoY expansion. I have found that most, if not all, armor and weapon drops from the Loy expansion that are not common drops from all mobs will not sell to a Merchant.

Happy to hear that, Otizlee.

In fact checking with NPC vendors is not a very good way to test value as the responses here have indicated.

Probably better to see what the bazaar thinks it's worth. NPCs will pay next to nothing for very nice things and hundreds of pp for rubbish.

This is valuable information. There are many items in game that are sold by players for less than a (npc) merchant will offer. Most people don't keep track of these vendor prices and sell items based on what they think they are worth based on their stats.

Items such as player made bows, kunark 'clicky' armors, helm of rile, skull shaped barbute, and often jewelcrafted items can be found daily in the bazaar and immediately sold to a npc for profit. Oddly, Sony has been adjusting some of these buy/sell prices recently (why are they wasting effort on this?) but there are still deals to be made out there.

There is the added benefit that when you take an item from a player and 'destroy' by selling to a npc vendor, you are removing loot from the system and helping to prevent mudflation!

Cobra101 wrote:

Absolutely and both can be valuable information, however the *true* value is subjective and highly susceptible to bouts of wild fluctuation and therefore is very risky in terms of an ongoing program of commodity speculation.

NPC buy prices, on the other hand are consistent and so can be used to kite plat in a much more interesting way than farming for silks or bone chips. A bit more risky to be sure but more varied and colorful as well...

In addition, as a fairly green player, I still get a big kick out of seeing items that I've never seen before. I have found an ever changing pattern made up of these types of goods on display from the NPC vendors in PoK. This makes the venture entertaining as well as profitable and isn't entertainment why we're logging on in the first place?


No, but knowing what they'll PAY for it could help you get out from under it at a profit instead of having your clock cleaned in Bazaar...

Just my 2CP...

I've hunted/farmed a bit in LoY zones (this weapon drops on the Gunthak beach). If you're wondering if that item you picked up in that Ykesha zone has any value, see what a merchant will offer. If they refuse to buy it, you've probably got a decent item in your hands.

Oddly I've found this to be true of just about all the LoY drops worth using or selling in the bazaar.

And yes, this is a decent weapon.

Patchwork Jetsam

Edited, Thu May 6 02:03:08 2004 by Yanari

If the damage is 30 all the way up to level 27 I'd use it as a beastlord when you get your pet. Actually you'd probably be okay using it up until then even since the delay is low for the damage output, you won't have any damage bonus as of yet though.