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Hello everyone, I have a question for ya....

I have 8 leader points, it is the most I can get right now. I was wondering, what would be good to spend them in? What have you spent them in? What do you thinks works best, and why? Any info would be great.

Mark target, assign MA, spell awareness, more HP.

I have mark target, delegate main assist, and show health. Mark npc is pretty redundent with delegate MA, but is helpful on big crowd control situations, where letting the tank know what mez is going to go is useful.

The next one I am going to get is path to PC, oddly enough. I cant count the times in a pick up ldon group someone takes a wrong turn and gets lost, or we backtrack to a different part of the dungeon and someone gets mixed up.

The mana / hp enhancements seem pretty worthless depending on how much they give, I heard it was pretty low. But the regen and attack enhancements seem like they would be of use if you were interested in more of a buff type deal than utility abilities.

-Moongleam

Spell awareness. Spell awareness. Spell awareness. Spell awareness.


Probably the single best thing you can add to a group.

Sure. Having a "special" circle around what the MA is targeting is great, but how many folks at that level really have a hard time using /assist? It's pretty, but not that important.

Having some extra hp or mana is nice. But not earth shattering. The amounts are *really* small.

There's certainly something to be said about the regen ones. Again, nothing you don't already get with buffs anyway. Bring a chanter, or a bard, or a BL, or a druid...


There is nothing in the game that does what spell awareness does. You've all seen the message:

uber_nasty_mob1 begins to cast a spell

This ability changes that message to this:

uber_nasty_mob1 begins to cast a spell <Complete Heal>


If you don't understand how useful this is, you probably aren't high enough level to get GL points anyway. Every leader should have this IMO. It should be the first thing they get. Knowing whether that mob is casting a CH, or a stupid little nuke that doesn't matter, or casting GHeal (I've seen CH capable mobs cast GHeal, believe it or not!), or malo, is incredibly useful.


Spell awareness. I'm serious....

I'm having a bit of difficulty with these.

As a healer I liked the idea of seeing the mob health without having to target it. I know this works as I have been in groups where it showed even though I was concentrating on the MA. Incidentally it is useful not having to switch to see it. It can affect your healing strategy knowing if the mob is almost dead, about to turn, possibly in need of a stun.

However having spent the points I see the percentage over the head but only when I have it targetted which kind of defeats the point. Other group members only see it when they target the mob.

I have been assuming that it needs one of the others (Mark NPC? Designate MA?) in order to work without changing.

No big deal since they seem to accumulate pretty fast and the character that has them isn't going to do much with them anyway.

The spell awareness one sounds very useful. However I'm darned sure that NPC CH doesn't have a 10 second cast.

The 'targets health' shows a percentage on what you are targetting, what is marked by mark npc, and what is marked by a delegated MA. from my standpoint of mezzing, knowing when the mob is going to die is real handy without having to swap off my mez targets (so targets target ability isnt as useful for me as a chanter).

I do plan to pick up spell recognition, but the graphical effects and knowing what monsters are capable of what gives you about a 95% success rate on knowing what they are doing anyhow, and other than a heal or gate, theres not a lot of relevence anyhow. as a chanter, I'm not going to blow my long refresh stun when the mob casts a malo and watch it unrefreshed while he heals, and I dont really have room for a lot of stuns on the bar :) Again, a paladin looking for aa would get a lot of mileage out of that that I dont.

-Moongleam

Heh. Well. I play a paladin, so interrupting spells is my job. I also play with spell effects turned off (as do most people, and doubly so in a raid environment), so this is a huge ability.

I'd also think if you just had one long recast stun loaded, you'd *really* want to know if the spell being cast was a heal, or some spell you didn't care about. I normally do have enough stuns loaded that I could just interrupt any spell the NPC casts. This just allows me to pick and choose how important any given spell is. If you've only got one stun, I'd think you'd want to make it really count...

There's also no more spam from the ability then you already get. If you have stuns, and you do have your chat set up to know when an NPC casts a spell, there are no more lines of spam added. If you don't already have the NPC spell casts turned on, then you aren't doing your group any favors anyway. But that's just my opinion. To me, this ability is far and away the most valuable. Everything else I *can* manage through other means. I can target a mob to see its health. I can already see what mob the MA has targeted. The mark NPC is useful I suppose, except that everyone I've ever seen use it just marks the same target the MA is fighting. Um... What's the point then? They should be maybe marking the next target to attack so that mob can be slowed/debuffed whatever and so the MA knows which to switch to next. Marking the guy the MA's already on is silly. I can already target that just with an /assist command. Don't really need it...

Group Health Enhancement:
Lvl 1- +30 points
Lvl 2- +60 points total
Lvl 3- +100 points total
It's much harder to measure Group Mana Enhancement, but I suspect it may be exactly like Health Enhancement.
Often times, many people in the group want leader experience and excess points don't help YOU get that spot, so if you need some low cost abilities to make you look like a more experienced leader I would try Lvl 1 offense, mana, and health enhancement along with NPC health. Or, take the more useful path and get the more expensive ones right away.
There's a few different angles you can look at this. As a healer, I would prefer health of target's target to see who has aggro on the mob, spell awareness, inspect buffs, and mana enhancement. A paladin may also enjoy spell awareness more than others with his or her ability to stun fairly quickly. As a dps class, offense enhancement & delegate Main Assist is more suited for you. Casters should look into Mana Enhancement.
Hope this has been helpful.

Taking this off at a bit of a tangent.

Is anybody starting to get pissed off with people who join your group and just say "Make me Leader"

Sometimes they even go so far as to explain they are working on the points but it is the automatic assumption that their wants outweigh everything else that annoys me.

Leadership can be accessed by hitting L (when not the chat window).

I have NPC Health, and Delegate Main Assist - very nice to have in my opinion. My current project is HoTT, more likely than not followed by Find PC. A friend got the first level of Inspect Buffs but said the way it was implemented was idiotic so was of limited use. I don't have it though myself. Just my 2 cents.

I relize this is a tad old of a thread but i would like to make sure anyone person still unfamilar with LAAXP gets good info.

gbaji I disagree on 1 point you made and that is



I really don't think you need this ability for people to acually assist off of, what it is best used for is teh ANTI assist. For the Crowdcontrol to know which mobs the tanks ISN'T on, for the SA to tell which mob the MA ISN'T on. I don't mean after MA started hitting it and it has taken damage. I mean on INC.

It isn't real useful for MA or for clerics, it is REAL useful for those that are trying to target the OTHER mobs.

PS I dont use the ring around the feet. It is best for those times when 4 mobs are stacked on each other. It is the <<around the name>> that is the most helpful.

Cobra11 -
You may already know this, as it is a month later, but yes the %HP shows up on YOUR target, the Desiganted MA's target, and any of the MARKed targets.

Mark target is good for poiting out which mezz will break next, as that is the one that is pre tashed and preslowed.

There is a HP regen, but the mana regen was droped during beta.

I currently have, Designate MA, Mark Target 1, Offensive Enhancement 1, and HP Regen 1. I will eventually max out Offensive, HP, and HP regen. May get spellawareness before that, it is very nice, but very exspenseive compared to the low level ones I have done so far.

Ok. I can buy this. I honestly was not aware that it put a special dodad around the name of the target the MA was on. I play a dwarf, so I'm generally looking at the legs and crotch of the mobs I'm fighting, so I never noticed.

So far though, I've never noticed the chanters I've grouped with being any better or worse for having the mark. Good chanters are good at selecting and mezzing targets in a crowd. Bad ones aren't. This isn't going to make a crappy chanter into a good one IMO.