I'm having a little trouble getting a handle on the specifics of food and drink. While I understand that there are differences, I can't find any info regarding what the differences mean to the character.
Other than the ID tag that shows when you open up a description window... (example):
burger, fries and a small Coke - This is a happy meal!
What does it all mean? I have found the following so far:
FOOD -
This is a snack
This is a meal
This is a hearty meal
This is a miraculous meal
This is a banquet sized meal
This is a enduring meal
This meal is a feast!
DRINK -
This is a drink
This is a refreshing drink
This is a hearty drink
This is a miraculous drink
There may be others, but I have yet to find them.
Now, what I most want to know is, besides a stat booster (if any) does the meal type only determine how often the character will need to auto eat and if so than how long do foods in each *class* last? And while we're on the subject, short of examining every damn recipe is there any way to tell which foods and drinks have stat boosters built in?
maybe there are some kind Master Bakers out there who can edumacate me on the finer points of toon cuisine.
As always, thanks for your help...
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Yep, you pretty much got it, the description is an idication of how often your character will need to eat the item to keep from getting hungry with the exception of the miraculous meal, which is a stat food.
I think there might be "this is a flowing drink" some where in there, but otherwise really good list and good post!
You can go to eqtraders.com and look at food to see what has good stats, and even a beginning baker can combine fresh fish and bat wings in a spit or oven to get cheap food that lasts longer than regular. I do this while fishing (I do all kinds of things while fishing-practice spells, bake, make potions)
And this one took me forever to find out-you don't get the stats by eating the food. Is that a riot or what? Don't ever say SOE programmers didn't have a sense of humor.
No, you get the stats by having the food (or drink)in a "ready to eat" slot, and force feeding yourself constantly with your non-stat cheap food, so you don't eat your stat food, which as soon as you forget to force eat or drink, you will scarf down. I usually stick to patty melts and long term food without stats because there is no doubt I will forget. When I do have stat foods I put a post-it-note on my pc (go ahead laugh) to remind myself.
And this one took me forever to find out-you don't get the stats by eating the food. Is that a riot or what? Don't ever say SOE programmers didn't have a sense of humor.
No, you get the stats by having the food (or drink)in a "ready to eat" slot, and force feeding yourself constantly with your non-stat cheap food, so you don't eat your stat food, which as soon as you forget to force eat or drink, you will scarf down. I usually stick to patty melts and long term food without stats because there is no doubt I will forget. When I do have stat foods I put a post-it-note on my pc (go ahead laugh) to remind myself.
Kelti wrote:
Well, not exactly a beginning baker since they trivial at 135... With the new UI, you can't even see any recipe that's more than yellow to your current level. I guess you could try making them in the experimental window of the new UI but you'd probably fail the combine most of the time!
I'm sure they did it this way because after you *eat* something, it's gone from your inventory so the program can't *look* at it to factor in the bonus. You can only get credit for *eating* stat food based on it's (virtual) existence in the inventory slot. I'm sure anything else would have been a programing nightmare.
I don't blame you. Last thing I'd want to do was gulp down that Misty Thicket Picnic and wash it down with a Qeynos Ice Tea because I forgot it was in the top slot!
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...and even a beginning baker can combine fresh fish and bat wings in a spit or oven to get cheap food that lasts longer than regular.
Well, not exactly a beginning baker since they trivial at 135... With the new UI, you can't even see any recipe that's more than yellow to your current level. I guess you could try making them in the experimental window of the new UI but you'd probably fail the combine most of the time!
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And... you don't get the stats by eating the food... No, you get the stats by having the food (or drink) in a "ready to eat" slot
I'm sure they did it this way because after you *eat* something, it's gone from your inventory so the program can't *look* at it to factor in the bonus. You can only get credit for *eating* stat food based on it's (virtual) existence in the inventory slot. I'm sure anything else would have been a programing nightmare.
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When I do have stat foods I put a post-it-note on my pc (go ahead laugh) to remind myself.
I don't blame you. Last thing I'd want to do was gulp down that Misty Thicket Picnic and wash it down with a Qeynos Ice Tea because I forgot it was in the top slot!
There is a lot of baked food that has stat boosts, you should see these when you right click on them.
Remember that the stats only take effect when you have the food/drink in the highest inventory slot. ie If there is other non stat food or drink in front of the stat food, the stats do not take effect.
Hmm, yes what he said
Edited, Thu Apr 29 20:29:43 2004 by Iluien
Remember that the stats only take effect when you have the food/drink in the highest inventory slot. ie If there is other non stat food or drink in front of the stat food, the stats do not take effect.
Hmm, yes what he said
Edited, Thu Apr 29 20:29:43 2004 by Iluien
Sorry, you are correct OldBlueDragon, I started on the fresh fish and bat wings to get up to 135 because it's such a cheap easy combo. So I did start on it, a loooooong time ago, but you don't get a lot at first.
BTW stat potions do not remain in your inventory after you drink them, so I think the programmers could have done the same with food and drink.
Edited, Thu Apr 29 21:03:38 2004 by Kelti
BTW stat potions do not remain in your inventory after you drink them, so I think the programmers could have done the same with food and drink.
Edited, Thu Apr 29 21:03:38 2004 by Kelti
Kelti (with the hypnotic avitar) wrote:
Good point! So, you mean that like a potion (or a spell), eating a stat food/drink would set off a timer that would yield a bonus that would last until the timer ran out. Yeah that would work!
Maybe the existing piece of code was written by a *rules lawyer* type who just wanted to see how long it would take players to examine the process and figure out that you CAN'T actually eat and still get the buff!
Damn shame you can't do the same trick with an SoW potion!!!
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BTW stat potions do not remain in your inventory after you drink them, so I think the programmers could have done the same with food and drink.
Good point! So, you mean that like a potion (or a spell), eating a stat food/drink would set off a timer that would yield a bonus that would last until the timer ran out. Yeah that would work!
Maybe the existing piece of code was written by a *rules lawyer* type who just wanted to see how long it would take players to examine the process and figure out that you CAN'T actually eat and still get the buff!
Damn shame you can't do the same trick with an SoW potion!!!
OldBlue, I think cats have a higher metabolism so they eat faster. That's the only class I can remember that does that.
Why don't you go to bazaar and check out what's on offer. Also there's a Gnome under a tent in the newbie FP West area who sells a pink drink that lasts way longer than water.
Why don't you go to bazaar and check out what's on offer. Also there's a Gnome under a tent in the newbie FP West area who sells a pink drink that lasts way longer than water.
Kelti, I'm curious do you set up a macro of any type for fishing? Or do you just hit the fishing hotkey when its ready in between combining? And I guess you have a collapsable oven or something to that effect which allows you to bake w/o being near a permanent oven...I've been getting into the tradeskill thing lately, so any helpful hints/tips that anyone would like to share would be much appreciated...
Also, I know int or wis (depending on which is highest) determines the rate at which the skill will increase, but I read somewhere that STR affects smithing (if its higher than int and wis)...I'm curious by chance does DEX work the same way with fletching or is it only dtermined by wis/int? My rangers wis is so low, but I've been working on his dex, so that would be an added bonus...
Also, I know int or wis (depending on which is highest) determines the rate at which the skill will increase, but I read somewhere that STR affects smithing (if its higher than int and wis)...I'm curious by chance does DEX work the same way with fletching or is it only dtermined by wis/int? My rangers wis is so low, but I've been working on his dex, so that would be an added bonus...
OldBlueDragon wrote:
I don't blame you. Last thing I'd want to do was gulp down that Misty Thicket Picnic and wash it down with a Qeynos Ice Tea because I forgot it was in the top slot!
Here's what I do - uses 6 slots, but IMHO it's worth it.
MTP=Misty Thicket Picnic
QAT=Qeynos Afternoon Tea
FR=Fish Rolls
FC=Fuzzlecutters Formula
1xMTP - 1xQAT
20xFR - 20xFC
19xMTP - 19xQAT
That way if I forget and munch the picnic, my inventory starts going through the fish rolls, not the stat foods.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
If I understood correctly, you get the stats from stats food too if you have it in your inventory and if you (auto-)eat something else...
But what now if you got several stats food? Do you get the stats of all of them?
But what now if you got several stats food? Do you get the stats of all of them?
You only get the stats from the top food and top drink. Anything below them is ignored.
Wherever I go - there I am.
Few other points I'm not sure were clearly made. Iksars, Vah Shir, and probably trolls, ogres and barbarians, all eat faster than normal. When you have a horse buff up, your horse or drogmar eats your food. Very important point... Keep your horse well fed or he'll eat your misty thicket picnic =p.
Miraculous Meals are not in and of themselves stat foods. They just mean when you force eat one, it'll last forever before you're hungry again. Fuzzlecutter Formula 5000s (bought off the gnome in WFP newbie area) and fish rolls are my preferred force eating items to keep me from devouring my halas 10lb meat pies and kaladim constitutionals. Amazing that that food gives me around 80 extra hp, bonus to saves, etc... I bought a stack of each, and have had them in my bag since probably last year September... have 13 drinks and 17 pies left... hehe. Don't want to think what that would smell like by now considering where my character has been (swimming in plane of disease has to be the worst of those visuals).
Miraculous Meals are not in and of themselves stat foods. They just mean when you force eat one, it'll last forever before you're hungry again. Fuzzlecutter Formula 5000s (bought off the gnome in WFP newbie area) and fish rolls are my preferred force eating items to keep me from devouring my halas 10lb meat pies and kaladim constitutionals. Amazing that that food gives me around 80 extra hp, bonus to saves, etc... I bought a stack of each, and have had them in my bag since probably last year September... have 13 drinks and 17 pies left... hehe. Don't want to think what that would smell like by now considering where my character has been (swimming in plane of disease has to be the worst of those visuals).
I've never been completely clear about the order of the slots for the stat food.
Is the slot order like this?:
1 5
2 6
3 7 Food and drink go in slots #1 and #2
4 8
OR is it like this?:
1 2
3 4
5 6 Food and drink go in slots #1 and #2
7 8
Is the slot order like this?:
1 5
2 6
3 7 Food and drink go in slots #1 and #2
4 8
OR is it like this?:
1 2
3 4
5 6 Food and drink go in slots #1 and #2
7 8
In your basic inventory, Choice A is correct Bridger. Containers may be the same, but since I usually put stat food above normal food, and stat drink above normal drink, it's difficult to say.
However, so long as the "stat food" you are wanting to get the stats off of is in front of the normal food, you'll get the stats. Doesn't have to be in the first 2 slots, nor even next to each other. Just as long as the stat food is in front of your normal food, and the stat drink is in front of your normal drink. (Also works for which food you want to eat first...keeping it in slots ahead of the others).
Most potions put up a buff icon, which is why they take effect after you use them (which makes sense for a potion). Stat food takes effect while you are eating them, hence that's when the effects take effect (/cheer me for redundency!). If you look at it as while the food is in your inventory, you are eating it slowly, it makes more sense. (When it disappears from your inventory, you have eaten it all and it no longer gives you the effects).
However, so long as the "stat food" you are wanting to get the stats off of is in front of the normal food, you'll get the stats. Doesn't have to be in the first 2 slots, nor even next to each other. Just as long as the stat food is in front of your normal food, and the stat drink is in front of your normal drink. (Also works for which food you want to eat first...keeping it in slots ahead of the others).
Most potions put up a buff icon, which is why they take effect after you use them (which makes sense for a potion). Stat food takes effect while you are eating them, hence that's when the effects take effect (/cheer me for redundency!). If you look at it as while the food is in your inventory, you are eating it slowly, it makes more sense. (When it disappears from your inventory, you have eaten it all and it no longer gives you the effects).
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eqtraders.com also has an excellent thread here that lists the duration for each consumable. Each meal/drink type actually covers a range of durations.
Much thanks bro!
PokeeJo wrote:
Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! Three cheers for PokeeJo!
I'm gonna go digest this new information!
Nobby wrote:
Good tip, thanks. I keep my food and drink in a large sack so the whole *needs six slots* part will work out just fine for me! One thing, Why the Fuzzlecutter's? Duration, or are you trying to grow hair?!?
ZhaoVizier wrote:
More good info, thanks. I've been wanting to try some of the Halas Pies I was also thinking about trying out a Hero Sandwich. I'll let you all know what I find out about them!
And thank you to everyone who pitched in with info and/or comments. I knew I could count on you guys!
(edited to correct dismal punctuation)
Edited, Fri Apr 30 16:44:36 2004 by OldBlueDragon
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eqtraders.com also has an excellent thread here that lists the duration for each consumable. Each meal/drink type actually covers a range of durations.
Now, THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! Three cheers for PokeeJo!
I'm gonna go digest this new information!
Nobby wrote:
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Here's what I do - uses 6 slots, but IMHO it's worth it.
MTP=Misty Thicket Picnic
QAT=Qeynos Afternoon Tea
FR=Fish Rolls
FC=Fuzzlecutters Formula
1xMTP - 1xQAT
20xFR - 20xFC
19xMTP - 19xQAT
MTP=Misty Thicket Picnic
QAT=Qeynos Afternoon Tea
FR=Fish Rolls
FC=Fuzzlecutters Formula
1xMTP - 1xQAT
20xFR - 20xFC
19xMTP - 19xQAT
Good tip, thanks. I keep my food and drink in a large sack so the whole *needs six slots* part will work out just fine for me! One thing, Why the Fuzzlecutter's? Duration, or are you trying to grow hair?!?
ZhaoVizier wrote:
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Miraculous Meals are not in and of themselves stat foods. They just mean when you force eat one, it'll last forever before you're hungry again. Fuzzlecutter Formula 5000s (bought off the gnome in WFP newbie area) and fish rolls are my preferred force eating items to keep me from devouring my halas 10lb meat pies and kaladim constitutionals. Amazing that that food gives me around 80 extra hp, bonus to saves, etc... I bought a stack of each, and have had them in my bag since probably last year September... have 13 drinks and 17 pies left... hehe.
More good info, thanks. I've been wanting to try some of the Halas Pies I was also thinking about trying out a Hero Sandwich. I'll let you all know what I find out about them!
And thank you to everyone who pitched in with info and/or comments. I knew I could count on you guys!
(edited to correct dismal punctuation)
Edited, Fri Apr 30 16:44:36 2004 by OldBlueDragon
I have heard that an imbued Plains Pebble will decrease the rate at which you consume food. Try it out.
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No, you do not eat the pebble. That would be painful. LOL
You keep the pebble in a bag with your food. Do not pay more than 10p or so for an imbued plains pebble. I've tried it, and it seems as though I destroy a ton of roots and things that I normally eat so fast they don't have time to stack up.
Edited, Sat May 1 16:45:45 2004 by SolarFire
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No, you do not eat the pebble. That would be painful. LOL
You keep the pebble in a bag with your food. Do not pay more than 10p or so for an imbued plains pebble. I've tried it, and it seems as though I destroy a ton of roots and things that I normally eat so fast they don't have time to stack up.
Edited, Sat May 1 16:45:45 2004 by SolarFire
OldBlueDragon wrote:
Why the Fuzzlecutter's? Duration, or are you trying to grow hair?!?
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
SolarFire wrote:
So, I get to be the lab rat and test this one out, eh? OK, fine, I'll take one for the team. I just hope I don't have to pass it afterwards!
What do I do, right click on the pebble to *eat* it?
I sure am gonna feel silly if I do that and the program responds *YUCK ! Do you eat dirt as well?*
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I have heard that an imbued Plains Pebble will decrease the rate at which you consume food. Try it out.
So, I get to be the lab rat and test this one out, eh? OK, fine, I'll take one for the team. I just hope I don't have to pass it afterwards!
What do I do, right click on the pebble to *eat* it?
I sure am gonna feel silly if I do that and the program responds *YUCK ! Do you eat dirt as well?*
Quote:
Kelti, I'm curious do you set up a macro of any type for fishing? Or do you just hit the fishing hotkey when its ready in between combining? And I guess you have a collapsable oven or something to that effect which allows you to bake w/o being near a permanent oven...I've been getting into the tradeskill thing lately, so any helpful hints/tips that anyone would like to share would be much appreciated...
Also, I know int or wis (depending on which is highest) determines the rate at which the skill will increase, but I read somewhere that STR affects smithing (if its higher than int and wis)...I'm curious by chance does DEX work the same way with fletching or is it only dtermined by wis/int? My rangers wis is so low, but I've been working on his dex, so that would be an added bonus...
Also, I know int or wis (depending on which is highest) determines the rate at which the skill will increase, but I read somewhere that STR affects smithing (if its higher than int and wis)...I'm curious by chance does DEX work the same way with fletching or is it only dtermined by wis/int? My rangers wis is so low, but I've been working on his dex, so that would be an added bonus...
No macro, I just have a spit, available at any baking merchant. I just fish, cook and spell. Well I did, close to maxing those skills now. Certain skills, like fishing sure seem to go up faster with dex and clarity or kei on. I will always cast dex on myself for any skill up I am working on. There is no doubt dex helps the fighting skills go up. And I figure it sure can't hurt so why not, you can almost always get a shammy to cast dex and str on you.
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yes dex is used as an alternate to wis/int for fletching and strength for smithing
I keep food in two bags. In one I have regular cheap food, in the eat ready slots, and in another I keep stat food in the first two slots. when I want the stats I put that bag in the top slot, when I don't need or want the stats I put the regular food back in the top slot. It is an easy swap and my stat food lasts forever.
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I have heard that an imbued Plains Pebble will decrease the rate at which you consume food. Try it out.
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where can i get the imbued plains pebble?
I have heard that an imbued Plains Pebble will decrease the rate at which you consume food. Try it out.
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where can i get the imbued plains pebble?
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