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If you lose, it only hurts your standings and you get no adventure points. The adventure points are what you are looking for so you can upgrade your equipment.

The adventures as i see them start off,


Butcherblock camp ---Easiest
North Ro camp
East commonlands
Everfrost
South Ro -----Hardest

Imho , iwould not 2 box or three box any of these if i was looking to win.

Others might have different ideas then me , but this is just my opion.

(1) Aside from not getting any points, there's no downside to losing. Well, that "you suck!" sound is kind of annoying.

(2) There's two difficulties possible: Normal and Hard. You set it in the "Request Adventure" window prior to hitting the button to ask for a mission.

The actual adventure types are: Kill X many mobs (pretty easy), Collect X items from the mobs (usually the easiest), Kill a boss mob and rescue a prisoner.

Rescues suffer from buggy pathing and most people avoid them. Flawlessly clearing to the prisoner just to have him get hung up on a corner and poof isn't much fun. Boss kills are kind of fun with a group of friends, especially at low levels where most of the dungeon is a pushover anyway. In the higher levels, the boss can be pretty tough and people tend towards the easier wins of slaughter or collect.

(3) I don't multi-box, so I don't know. Give it a shot and find out. I'd stick with collects since you'll have the best chance of winning.

1. What does it matter if you lose, does it hurt your rewards or standing with the NPC? Like do I care if our little strattegy experiment hands us a failure?

nothing other then standing on the point chart list.

others have mentioned why you want those points. FYI post 50, LDoN has been mega nerfed for xp so any LDoN group post 50 is only there for loot and points. you will get more xp in T1 and better zones.

2. For starters I would like to tinker with the easiest adventure types, and after we get the hang of it, move on to the more difficult. Would someone give me an idea of how that sequence works? At this point we are not even sure what are all the options, just a hand wavy comment would be fine.

adventure types are only a few.

1. slaughter. this is kill X number of mobs in the 90min time slot. IMHO these are most often the simplest and you can almost always win if you have a high DPS group.

2. collection. this is collect X amount of a specific type of NO DROP worthless item that you destroy as soon as you win. IMHO this was nerfed and screwed up for a while, but seems to of been fixed. prob. #2 in ease of success.

3. rescue. this is a royal pain as you have to fight your way to the guy, kill 60% of the mobs, then get him out alive. bad part is he will attack things, thus making it harder to keep him alive. really want a ranger for this as they are the only ones with high enough tracking skill to tack the full zone.

4. assasin. this is go in and kill X named boss mob type. these are rather easy if you have a strong group, but 1 slip up and your group will die fast and hard on the boss mob. IMHO #3, and 4 are toss up on dificulty. most groups do not like #3 at all and will skip them at all cost.

3. we have three accounts, but sometimes when I want to play, the rest of the family are doing 'important' RL things, is it feasible to 2-box or 3-box these things? I have had no problems 3-boxing in regular zones, but some of the adventures I have already been in, got pretty hectic from time to time.

if you are realy realy good at 3boxing you might be able to pull it off, but i would not try it. as for 2 boxing i was good enough to 2box my wiz/war combo on several advents.

I routinely 2-box in LDoN, but only with friends. I'd love to play just one, but often we don't have the healing power so I 2-box the cleric. In my guild are a couple other 2-boxers and virtually any two of us (both 2-boxing: thus 4 toons) can win normal difficulty missions consistently. Right when our avg. group level hit 58 we got bumped into a higher tier and we did have some trouble, but that doesn't last long since the exp is so much better at that point that the lower level people shoot up through levels and you wind up spending lots of time in the middle/upper part of the range getting relatively low exp.

There are two types of "high score lists". I can't believe we have high score lists in a MMORPG, but oh well. The leftmost one is based on your raw number of victories. Given a tie, the person with the lesser number of losses is listed first. If both wins and losses tie, they are listed in some order (maybe alphabetical? Or the more recent person first?) with the same number. The righthand ranking is from win percentage. On my server, the top 100 is dominated by people who win without loosing - ever, thus they all have at or near 100% win percentage. How do I know this? One of my guildies was all excited about this and we did cartloads of missions in one zone until we all achieved over 1490 points there. Took a while but he is high up on the win % list for that zone. I personally wish they would toss the whole "high score" thing because I would like to include people. If we start a mission with 4 people, if a guildie comes online say 10 min into it, I'd love to be able to quit to pick him/her up. But sadly not if you are trying to preserve your perfect 73-0 record.

Any mechanism to do this would rock. Say: they join in the first 30 min, but only get 2/3 the points? You issue a special command as group leader to invite them to the dungeon and they accept or decline it (obviously you have to have an open spot in your group). Or you can quit the mission within the first 30 min and not take an official loss - you name it. Or of course they could dump the high score list.

As for mission difficulty, you should try normal missions first but I would encourage you to do "hard" missions if you have the group for it. (Your group leader selects "hard" from the difficulty pull down tab when requesting a mission). I don't have first hand pre-level 50 experience with LDoN, but I have heard the missions are pretty easy to win but you get jack for points. Ergo, your best option may be to just focus on leveling up. By taking a hard mission you may more then double the ammount of exp per kill you get - so maybe you loose the mission, but get more exp then you would normally would and thus level quicker to a point where you do get pretty good points per mission.

Beware of the level tiers. Each tier is 5 levels wide and dictates the level of the mobs you fight. You can jump up to the next tier by selecting a hard mission. We seem to get about 50% more points for doing the next hardest tier. Basically, if you average group level is from, say 53-58, you get predominantly level 50-51 mobs (I think it is around the mid level minus 5 but I may be off here). Maybe your avg. group level is 53.1 - this mission may be fairly tough for you, but if your avg. group level is 57.9, it may be trivial.

Further, a single person dinging or a small change to your group can bump you into the next tier. If you've done a great mission and, say, someone dings and your group level hits 58 (avg) but then you go back all excited and select a "hard" mission, you just jumped up 2 tiers! You're fighting level 58 mobs in stead of 48 mobs from last mission and probably not too happy. At that level, you may start having trouble landing any stuns to interrupt gating/complete healing mobs, any casters of low level will have serious trouble landing many spells, etc.

I kind of wish they would put the level of your mission there in place of the "normal" and "hard". When we're at the upper end of a tier, we usually want to try hard missions because of the increased exp, but if anyone dings we don't know if we are already at the next tier or not. I tried making a little table here with level and tier but it doesn't seem that anyone knows for sure.

Some of my numbers here may be off. If anyone can fix them please do and I'll edit the post.

Good advice above generally, especially with regard to ease of different types and difficulty of zones.

I am a little surprised about the posts regarding trying to 3 box a LDON. Although I have 2 accounts and generally have no problem 2 boxing regular EQ, I have not attempted it in LDON - the 2 main characters (chanter & healer) usually require close to full time attention for most if not all of the adventure. I would recommend against trying to 3 box with other people unless you warn them in advance and I would really recommend against trying to 3 box a LDON by yourself using the min number for the group if you are trying for wins.

Note that there is a significant difference between Normal and Hard (mobs are 5 levels higher than normal and expect a lot more resists, etc).

Final note, I have found that you can get a Mistmore LDON group almost anytime with a short wait, but that Tak and EF groups are rarer and that I almost never get tells for Ruj and have only done 1 Guk LDON out of 125 or so ones I have done.

Can anyone suggest a link where you can find what can be purchased from the adventure merchants? Something with how many points the item costs as well as any effects.

Thanks much

I two box LDoN all the time with my Cleric and Chanter. This combination is bit difficult to pull of but I have not lost yet with a full group. Here is what I do for that combination. I put Cleric for auto follow the Chanter. I use the Chanter to move around and select the target for slow and CC. I limit my Cleric to just heals and maybe cures. When the mob is pulled, I use the Chanter to slow right away if Pally/SK is the tank. If it's a Warrior, I start off with celestial heal to the Warrior while he's building aggro then use the Chanter to slow. Usually there isn't enough time to do much else other than occasional nukes from the Chanter or the Cleric. I use F-Keys to select the group member for heals and use /assist to select the mob. I have not tried the hard LDoN with two boxing but easy ones are pretty simple to do.

Taushar