A lonley Druid in NorrathFollow

Hello everyone, Just wanted to start off by saying I haven't really played since the Beta days. I finally have more time and money (upgrading my system) to be able to play Eq. I have a lev 7 druid on the quellious server. Just seeing if any would at least help me out with power leving or equipment. If you could it would greatlty appriciated. PSt if you would like I play early evenings M,W,Th. Or just send tell just say hello.


Thank you,
Benvareine,
Half Elf-Druid
Lev 7

Oh....BAD idea to post something like that on this forum.

/em puts on his flame retardant suit and waits for the fireworks to begin

Man, binverine, I would strongly suggest quitting while you're ahead and not posting to this thread anymore. Every time you post a comment you just make yourself look worse.

I'm surprised the regulars here haven't already formed a posse to find your character and horse whip it across the karanas...

Actually, I think yours will end up being one of the kinder, gentler responses to this thread tarv

So Tarv what I'm hearing you say is that you'll create a toon on quellious, make a bunch of money and give it to him? That's pretty kind of you!

Seriously though, I'm more than willing to help out somebody if they're genuinely in need, but you have to try first before you beg. I know that it might seem like a logical thing to do when you haven't been in the game before, or haven't played for a long time... but people hate it. They hate it in the game, and they REALLY hate it when they find it still happening in real life, on a message board.

Shadow have you ever come across the word humour?

I would have thought that it was fairly obvious that it was written mainly for Dan's benefit.

that said rule No1 of eq is Do not beg. if you live by that rule alone you will go a long way.

Shadow, there is a rather big distinction between begging for help and being the recipient of random acts of kindness. It is those random, unsolicited acts of generosity - a drive-by buff or a piece of gear that make the world a better place.

Begging for help is no different here, in game, or in real life. If you want to choose to be that person on the side of the highway off-ramp with the sign about how you can't afford food then by all means, stand there. You won't get anything from me. But take that same person and put him somewhere where he is trying to help himself, and people will help. It is a big distinction.

Giving feels good when you help someone who is deserving. Handing out money to some guy with a sign that gets up and drives off in a BMW makes the giver feel like a patsy. We have had 5 EQ years of people begging for heals, plat, gear and honestly, it is so completely pervasive that it is hard to find the ones in real need.

For a level 7 druid to stand up and claim dire need is ridiculous. He could spend 20 minutes in EC killing spiderlings and have enough spiderling silk to sell to equip himself in what was planar-ready gear 4 years ago.

Begging for gear or plat in today's EQ market economy only shows one thing - complete lack of desire to do anything for onself.

Yes but did u know that when u first started. Yes it is hard to find the ones that need it for real i understand that but i was in the 20ish range before someone told me here go kill this and sell this this person said they have not played seince the beta days that was over 5 years ago and how often do u see the random acts of kindness know days i will help when i can. But to tell u the truth when u first started what did u know not jack r atleast i did not.

i still remember the first item that was ever givin to me. i was lost in gfay (at that time gfay was huge to me) and stumbled upon somone sittin around waitin for the nexxus portal. i politely asked for directions back, and to my wonderous surprise the responded by handing me a shissar scale cloak, giving me directions, and sending me on my way. i nearly fell over my own feet thanking them. unfortuanatly i forgot there name, but never forgot how nice it was. that bein said, i never ask for stuff, but you'd be amazed how much stuff ppl will give ya if ya just strike up polite conversations with random ppl. and also remember to pass on the kindness, when my roomate started playin he stumbled upon a poor lost dwarf in bb and told me, i instantly grabbed my mule, grabbed a few items, and headed over to them, buffed him with what gimp buffs i had, and sent him on his way. it was an awsome feeling.

This is just a reflection of who you are in real life. In real life, if I am lost, I don't expect people to lead me to where I want to go. I buy a map and try to figure it out myself. If I don't understand something, I try to go to a library or get on the web and try to learn as much as possible. Then try to ask intelligent questions to knowledgeable people for things I still didn't understand. I don't expect them to tell me everything they know so I don't have to do any work. If you want something, put some work in yourself and people will respect you for that.

It's the same way in EQ. When I was a newbie, I never asked for anything from anyone. I learned about things from boards like this one and others. I read all that was interesting to me and I went on to try out things I have learned from boards. I did quests and farmed things I wanted on my own. Those I could not do on my own, I asked friends to help me, if they had time. I was forever grateful for those who helped me in the past and I let them know.

If you go on begging in EQ for things you want, it makes you look like a very selfish and lazy person. That's the primary reason why people don't like to hear people beg. Many people worked hard to be where they are and they take pride in their work ethic and their accomplishments. If you want to tarnish your image by begging, go right on ahead. If you want to make yourself look like someone who is self sufficient and proud, stop begging and go earn your pay. If you read boards like this one or eqtraders.com, you can find hundreds things you can farm and sell to make money at your level. You just have to make the effort. You will feel much better about yourself if you do that. Specially for someone who hasn't even reached level 10, for god's sake.

Taushar

Very good post Shylee, however that involves work on his behalf and for some reason i can't see him moving from Pod lift without a 10+ damage weapon all slot filled with 40+ gear and temp.

I still can't credit that someone had the ordasity <sp?> to beg here of all places, we will help at every turn if you ask the right questions.

We will endevour to teach you what we know about your class, your abilities, how to mold seemlessly into groups, how to make PP, what to upgrade to. But we will NEVER do it for you.

We may out of the kindness of our hearts give you gear if your on our server, providing you thank us for our help but never repeat never if you beg for it.

OK, surprisingly, I am gonna step in for Binverine here. Me the anti-twink anti-IG, anti-PLer.

Bin, I completely understand your reasoning and request. It is not a a bad request, but one that should be fulfilled in a different manner than you are asking.

If you have not played since beta then there are two factors coming into play here: 1) you are accustomed to a very slow-grind game that was played pre-expansion. 2) You are likely intimidated by all of the changes and upgrades.

Take heart, all of those changes are easy to get to know...especially since you have been away so long...you would have to re-learn a lot anyway. Now there is more, but!...the new changes have made it far easier to level and become an active part of the community.

Here is my advice to you...Go to the quests area of Alla and look up your druid newbie armor quests. It will be directly related to your race (halfling druids have different newbie armor than wood elf druids, for example). Make a list of all of the items you will need and what drops them. I am going to give the following advice assuming that you have nothing. Go out with your level 7 druid and kill everything you can, start with a skellie with a weapon that you can use or you could even do an /ooc for a rusty weapon of whatever kind...that is the kind of newbie begging people are always willing to help with. Then kill everything you can and sell stuff until you can afford leather armor. All the while, make sure you are not selling off any items that you collect for your newbie armor quest.

As you get the items for the quested pieces, turn it in and upgrade your armor pieces accordingly. This should take you into your early teens from level 7, but more importantly it will get you accustomed with the game play once again and get you re-acquainted with your little druid.

While the newbie armor is not twink gear and make you uber...there is a lot of personal satisfaction in obtaining it. I respect a player at 15 running around in newbie armor than a 15th level running around in gear that my 50th cannot afford.

I would then look into a guild...keep your eyes open for guilds that are recruiting. On my server I have seen alot of guilds pop up recently that cater specifically to the lower levels. This is what you want so that you can adventure with others of your level. You will also run into people who have mains that can drop you a weapon or magic item from time to time. While the purists will call that twinking, I like to roleplay it (hey buddy, I like adventurng with you. I have a really high level friend who was in a dungeon the other day and got this cool sword. He does not need it so he wondered if you might like it?)

This site has most of the information you will need about quests, items, equipment and spells. Use the site and discover what you can. You can /ooc and usually get questions answered as well. Now, with the exception of something like "/ooc I am just coming back to the game and am in need of a weapon to start off...can someone donate a 1hb weapon for my use? I would be grateful", I would not recommend begging. If you just come back and have nothing, people will drop some small items, especially weapons to you. But that is where the asking for stuff or begging should stop. Those that help may check in with you later on and be willing to help some more if they see you take their donation and put it to work. If you run around begging you are gonna get a bad rep and people will not help or even group with you later on.

So, Bin, good luck. Welcome back. You will have fun...but remember leveling is a by-product of playing the game, not the other way around. Enjoy!

Train to freeport from Orc 1!

those where the days 8o)