/rant on...Follow

I would hardly call that the lowest - considering people do much worse requests in pok (recently had a guy request money to buy a horse for a corpse run, he said it was a loan, he was refusing a sow).

I would say, from the lol in her message not to take her too seriously...

Donations are just that - donations. Its acceptable to say that you would accept a donation, but never require one.

However, I would say next time your better off just saying no from the get go. She(or he, playing a female hoping to get some sex-related sympathy) may have thought by you saying you had to think about it that you were actually going to give her something, since if you weren't you would have just said no. It makes some type of weird logic I suppose but hey.

Her: 'would you like to donate for my buffs?'

Me: 'Certainly, young businesswoman. Just press /d to open the donation window'.

/shrug

I love when they say Donations accepted, hugs required!!

I say in OOC "Listen, if I'm gonna let you feel me up, don't expect me to pay you too!"

Personally I hate beggars and won't give to any. If I'm in a newbie area I might stop and give a newbie a little something and a lot of good Chanter buffs, but that's it.

I live under the beliefs: Light a man a fire and you keep him warm for the night. Light him ON fire and you keep him warm for the rest of his life!

Edited to add:

Usually when a beggar asks me for plat or items I usually reply with "Actually I was just going to ask YOU if you could spare a few thousand plat, I fell a little short of getting my new spells."

Edited, Mon Apr 12 08:30:58 2004 by KerikDaven

I secretly buff newbies with SoW and stuff and then disappear. They have no idea (usually). Maybe I should show up in 20 minutes and say "Hey, those 12 Orcs you just killed? How'd ya do that eh? Where's my cut? Ain't runnin' a charity here bub!"

Sometimes people GIVE me plat unsolicited and I have to ask them 'What for?'. They then tell me (more like demand) the buffs they want. (I never go Anonymous, perhaps I should now.)

And then there is the guy on Seventh Hammer running round giving people 100pp in PoK. His name is 'Freepp' and it took me a minute to figure it out! You don't often see the trade window pop up out of the blue with 100pp in it for you.

I am a Cleric and my message goes " Now casting Ext Virtue, TEMP and Symbol at the Felwithe stone."

No mention of donations or dots or anything else. It is very very rare that i will cast anything with out someone giving me some PP. I will normally cast before a trade window is brought up so that they ca leave right after without giving me anything.

I have been givin from 10G to 500pp for Virtue and even one day did a Group Virtue and got 1000pp for it.
I see alot of Clerics demanding 20pp or 50pp and wonder why?
The dot cost is 10PP whith good Cha. Mana is regenerated by sitting. so if you have one player give you 50pp that means you can give 4 for free.

I am not sure what that was...Interesting, buff someone and then ask them to donate? Kind of stupid tactic, I think. maybe she was just joking with you...her responses sounded playful.

Anyway, if I see people asking for donations (read --> handouts) I ignore them. I do not feel sorry for them. They are not destitute or going hungry...they are toons in a game. Now, I do role play sometimes. I may ask them to get me something first and I will pay them...sometimes it is something I need, other times it is something I do not...but they have had to do something for the money.

I do not give newbie characters any big items. If I find a small worthless little magic item...one of those +1 agi collars or something like that, I will stash it to hand to newbies. But I do not give it to the newbie standing in POK asking for stuff...I go to a newbie zone and find the guy wearing leather armor hunting bats and rats and hand it to him.

OK, exception, I will always try to help people on a CR. I will buff or offer items to help if I can. One of the best things to do to help someone on a CR is to offer to escort them. Soemtimes, they do not need it as the hardest part is the distance to cover...but sometimes people die in really bad palces (we've all been there!) and it is nice to have soemone run in and help.

As a monk, I got no spells--so set me on fire & keep me warm for life. =p

I've only asked for one buff in my entire short 18lvls of life;& that was from a "casting SOW, donations accepted but not required" for a CR all the waaaaay out to the North Karanas. I had nothing being a lvl 14, and, when I got all my gear, I and took the few plat I had to put in the bank back to my benefactor.

Unfortuantely or maybe fortuantely, he was gone. I say fortuante b/c as I looked at the paltry sum--12 plat--it occurred to me that any character capable of casting a SOW that lasted from PoK all the way to NK, & then back to PoK, might actually be insulted by such a paltry amount.

That lead me to the question, if I on a chance see someone stating "casting buff donations accepted, but never/not required" what's a proper donation? I mean, I figure there's some ettiquete involved, but not being or ever played a caster, I have no idea what that is.

Anyone care to school me--gently, please, I've never played EQ before & only lvl 18 now & just as broke. :)

Thanks,

Joe

Edited, Mon Apr 12 21:42:18 2004 by joev

Generally if you cast something on someone without any former communication, it's free and don't ask for anything after the fact. If it DOES work that way, I should sell cars! Here, have a car, now please pay for it!

My main is a ranger named Redwen, and I just so happen to have he perfect guild for you.... Pirates of Zek! It's a guild that a friend and I started, but it's not as stuffy as the other guilds on VZ. Send me a tell when you're online and I'll swing by to say 'hi'.

Just an observation:

I'm fairly certain the "all" has to be the fist argument:

/who all <name>

Also, I've noticed that /who doesn't seem to match a name to a phrase.

So a /who all pirates

will get a list of people with names like


piratesman
Imapirateson
piratesmaximus
piratesrus

But it will not match:

pirates of the carribean
pirates are us
pirates gone wild


It seems to match a portion of a word, but not a word in a phrase.


the best way is to put it in quotes:

/who all "pirates of whatever"


That should work.

not at all. if someone is just passing out buffs, then they are just passing out buffs. if they are greedy/foolish enough to think they should get a tip for something like that they are nuts.

i used to pass out DMF all the time in pok, just to evil races though as a RPG thing with my necro.

only time i ever gave DMF to a goodie was when requested. i never refused, nor did i ask for coin. just not worth it. once i hit mid 50s i could cast DMF for a very very very long time before i ran even semi low on mana so i could care less.

if some newbie is wanting to make coin off random buffs, give them an education much like you did.

Yeah. It's just flaky the way it works. It may be that it works because there's no single words that match "keepers"? Dunno.

All I do know is that if you type:

/who all "keepers of kithicor", you will *always* get the correct list you want. Any other syntax might work, or might not work.

well, we're not Pirates of Zek. The GM who tagged us got the name wrong, so we're "The Pirates of Zek".

just type in /who all "the pirates" and you should find a few people.