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nor are they "speach".
Could they possibly be speech?
But seriously, after having read this thread, I am confident that I can now talk much gooder than I used to did.
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Could they possibly be speech?
But seriously, after having read this thread, I am confident that I can now talk much gooder than I used to did.
Thanks.
Lol! Yup. I tend to let misspellings in there as well...
One I've noticed that I do alot is transpose the a and the u in because (becuase). I have no idea why I do that. It just happens. The fingers get going, and that's all she wrote.
One I've noticed that I do alot is transpose the a and the u in because (becuase). I have no idea why I do that. It just happens. The fingers get going, and that's all she wrote.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Gbaji is correct when he says that the language used here is more akin to the spoken word, rather than an essay.
More like writing a script for a dialogue.
It is part of the fun of the debate to use distorted spellings and grammar to emphasise points, introduce some irony or to try to "emote" the text in some way.
Some are more subtle than others.
Of course there is no excuse for some things, such as substituting there for their, or then for than (which one of our more famous contributors is wont to do
), however I like the spontaneity of many posts and happily overlook these in the enjoyment of the personality that is often revealed.
There is also the matter of the horrid BB coding, often I spot an untintentional typo in my posts, go back to edit it and get caught up in the multiple post "death loop", where you either end up with "thrre" or four duplicate posts or loose the lot entirely.
The system also has a mind of its own, where it will substitute letters of its own accord. I am convinced of this, many times I know I have typed the correct letter and something completely random appears in the text.
PS... There is an example, I know I typed "three"
More like writing a script for a dialogue.
It is part of the fun of the debate to use distorted spellings and grammar to emphasise points, introduce some irony or to try to "emote" the text in some way.
Some are more subtle than others.
Of course there is no excuse for some things, such as substituting there for their, or then for than (which one of our more famous contributors is wont to do
), however I like the spontaneity of many posts and happily overlook these in the enjoyment of the personality that is often revealed. There is also the matter of the horrid BB coding, often I spot an untintentional typo in my posts, go back to edit it and get caught up in the multiple post "death loop", where you either end up with "thrre" or four duplicate posts or loose the lot entirely.
The system also has a mind of its own, where it will substitute letters of its own accord. I am convinced of this, many times I know I have typed the correct letter and something completely random appears in the text.
PS... There is an example, I know I typed "three"
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Now I suppose now I suppose I will get to many responses from the PC crowd about the non-native English peoples but thats ok.
wel, you are right with starting this thread all together (btw, I am german, and do not claim to write perfect english). but some peeps (people) just type too "lightly".
apart from that, I find the subject of the thread though kind of offensive... as offensive as you may find it when people unthoughtfully post posts using bad grammar...
you know what a **** is and what they did to humankind? to be honest, I prefer somebody to post brainless sh*** with bad grammar than smart people using words with a foul aftertaste... I guess it wasn't "ur" intention (u prolly simply wanted to have a catchy subject line), but most of ze yermans are a bit sensible, ye know...
my remark here kind of reminds me of some thread about the term "gay" a while back, but had to vent my anger, sorry.
Still a noob. :-P
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I have a suspicion that the term "(something) ****" was brought into common use by Jerry Seinfeld after his "soup ****" episode. If you aren't familiar with the episode, it was about a man who ran a soup restaurant who was intolerant of any deviations from his way of doing things. It was, actually, absolutely hilarious and like many Seinfeldisms, the term was propogated into common use.
As an aside, I found this site that has a huge listing of Seinfeld quotables: http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/
As an aside, I found this site that has a huge listing of Seinfeld quotables: http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/
Samatman wrote:
thank you for you post and the link, funny actor he is is indeed.
I never really watch Seinfeldt though (not since I went back to Germany a couple of years ago), as they dub them american movies/series, and watching them in german is really not as much fun... imagine Cartman or Joey talking german. takes away at least 30% of the fun...
strange though (in my opinion), that so many people argued about the term "gay", when the term **** seems commonly accepted? ;)
EDIT: sorry for borrowing the thread
Edited, Thu Apr 8 07:56:21 2004 by Kajolus
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I have a suspicion that the term "(something) ****" was brought into common use by Jerry Seinfeld after his "soup ****" episode. If you aren't familiar with the episode, it was about a man who ran a soup restaurant who was intolerant of any deviations from his way of doing things. It was, actually, absolutely hilarious and like many Seinfeldisms, the term was propogated into common use.
As an aside, I found this site that has a huge listing of Seinfeld quotables: http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/
As an aside, I found this site that has a huge listing of Seinfeld quotables: http://www.pkmeco.com/seinfeld/
thank you for you post and the link, funny actor he is is indeed.
I never really watch Seinfeldt though (not since I went back to Germany a couple of years ago), as they dub them american movies/series, and watching them in german is really not as much fun... imagine Cartman or Joey talking german. takes away at least 30% of the fun...
strange though (in my opinion), that so many people argued about the term "gay", when the term **** seems commonly accepted? ;)
EDIT: sorry for borrowing the thread
Edited, Thu Apr 8 07:56:21 2004 by Kajolus
Still a noob. :-P
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Kajolus wrote:
strange though (in my opinion), that so many people argued about the term "gay", when the term **** seems commonly accepted? ;)
At face value, using gay as a term of abuse may offend gay peeps, and (bring on the Right Wing Moral Majority rants) being gay is not a choice but a state of being.
Being a ****, on the other hand is a conscious choice and almost universally recognised as being not particularly nice thing to be (apart from those people who want to condemn gays/jews/blacks to the 7th pit of hell, of course.)
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
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strange though (in my opinion), that so many people argued about the term "gay", when the term **** seems commonly accepted? ;)
I take your point though.
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Dothammer wrote:
the ***** were a deplorable gang of political henchman of the depraved Adolph Hitler
So:
Bad Logic - ***** were German, hence German's weren't ****
Bad Logic - ***** were german, There are German Gays, hence ***** were Gay
Good Logic - Germans have an unpronounceable guttural language that requires 6 litres of saliva to say 'Goodnight', I sounds similar when innebriated, All Germans are constantly drunk
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
Apart from being Dutch and making my share of English grammar and spelling errors (I presume), I must say that I am often shocked by the level of spelling of American and English players on the messageboards I visit.
The lack of it.
I do not know if this is caused by mass dyslexia, illeteracy or reluctance, but I sometimes think people have not seen a school building in their entire life.
Or maybe I am a complete inane fool who knows nothign about the l33tness of Beavis and Butthead d00dspeak yeah huh uh huhhuhuhh uhhhuh uhuh
I'll never draw attention to it, though. If this would be a Dutch board, however, that might be different. :)
The lack of it.
I do not know if this is caused by mass dyslexia, illeteracy or reluctance, but I sometimes think people have not seen a school building in their entire life.
Or maybe I am a complete inane fool who knows nothign about the l33tness of Beavis and Butthead d00dspeak yeah huh uh huhhuhuhh uhhhuh uhuh
I'll never draw attention to it, though. If this would be a Dutch board, however, that might be different. :)
Yanari wrote:
I sure hope so too...can not really imagine though, that a **** would enjoy playing everquest, as he might end up grouping with colored people or jews or communists or whatnot...
Dothammer Wrote:
Beamers are for Pimps ( [link=www.pimpwar.com]www.pimpwar.com[/link] ), better get yourself a "Vorsprung durch Technic" car, understatement is better 
Nobby wrote:
yip, and the KKK was/is not that much different either...
So:
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well, that's the reason why I prefer the oirish accent meself... no friggin "th". ah yes, and they do luv their Guinness too 
apart from that, most germans are extremely conscious about the german history...
and here, one for the road, before I load up my tradermule and head off for me easter holiday (@nobby
) :
please note, you load this site at your own risk, some people might be offended. so only click, if black humour is your style...
you all have a good one
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I think it also important to note that it's very probable we all assume noone here is, in fact, a ****. Certainly not one who's self proclaimed, to my knowledge
I sure hope so too...can not really imagine though, that a **** would enjoy playing everquest, as he might end up grouping with colored people or jews or communists or whatnot...
Dothammer Wrote:
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Good Logic: ***** were evil. ***** were German, hence Germans should be damn thankful we still buy BMWs.
Beamers are for Pimps ( [link=www.pimpwar.com]www.pimpwar.com[/link] ), better get yourself a "Vorsprung durch Technic" car, understatement is better Nobby wrote:
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Don't forget it wasn't only Germany that had a National Socialist party . . . In England Oswald Moseley's blackshirts were hugely popular in the 30's. They had the same anti-semitic 'master-race' platform which was whole-heartedly endorsed by significant swathes of the English establishment, right up to and including the Royal family.
yip, and the KKK was/is not that much different either...
So:
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Good Logic - Germans have an unpronounceable guttural language that requires 6 litres of saliva to say 'Goodnight', I sounds similar when innebriated, All Germans are constantly drunk .
well, that's the reason why I prefer the oirish accent meself... no friggin "th". ah yes, and they do luv their Guinness too 
apart from that, most germans are extremely conscious about the german history...
and here, one for the road, before I load up my tradermule and head off for me easter holiday (@nobby
) : please note, you load this site at your own risk, some people might be offended. so only click, if black humour is your style...
you all have a good one
Still a noob. :-P
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To Dothammer:
I understand that you are a grammar **** and I don't blame you. But I'm a SPELLING **** and you can't spell worth a whoot. Also for the grammar portion, you typed :
your blah blah == means the blah blah belongs to you
you're blah blah == means YOU ARE blah blah
then you proceeded to make the mistake you were complaining about:
...and your getting the picture to.
I can only assume *two* things:
A. You are being sarcastic or...
B. You dont proofread your posts
It's quite simple to proofread your post, check *your* spelling and then post it.
But seriously, this is just a forum about a video game. Does it really matter if I spell wrong or have bad grammar? I think not:)
I understand that you are a grammar **** and I don't blame you. But I'm a SPELLING **** and you can't spell worth a whoot. Also for the grammar portion, you typed :
your blah blah == means the blah blah belongs to you
you're blah blah == means YOU ARE blah blah
then you proceeded to make the mistake you were complaining about:
...and your getting the picture to.
I can only assume *two* things:
A. You are being sarcastic or...
B. You dont proofread your posts
It's quite simple to proofread your post, check *your* spelling and then post it.
But seriously, this is just a forum about a video game. Does it really matter if I spell wrong or have bad grammar? I think not:)
And another one, just for the record. No one is a two-word phrase, not one word........ noone.
Noone would be Peter Noone who sang for Herman's Hermits in the 60s (NOT 60's which would indicate possession).
Noone would be Peter Noone who sang for Herman's Hermits in the 60s (NOT 60's which would indicate possession).
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Imagine now, someone scraping there fingernails on a blackboard from here too their and your getting the picture to. Now I suppose now I suppose I will get to many responses from the PC crowd about the non-native English peoples but thats ok. Or I will get huge diettribes in dude-speak. Your ok too. Just try not too look to ignorant when you do.
Four the humer empaired, the quote above may, possibley bee in exemple serpporting the rest of his ranting. Sarcasm? Irony? Nah, probly jest misused grammer or speilling. All errers are herein intently purposed, cause I was learnt better.
/Diettribe off.
Vannick wrote:
A...DUUUUUH!
Read more than one of my posts, I go back, proof, and edit any glaring errors.
In case you missed it, and I understand why you wouldn't want to slog through the entire thread:
Dothammer wrote (later):
Kelti said it best:...blah blah blah...
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Is 'whoot' a word Mr. Spelling ****? Or did you just make that up? Seems the pot is calling the kettle...oh nevermind someone will think THAT is racist...
Edited, Mon Apr 12 10:11:22 2004 by Dothammer
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I can only assume *two* things:
A. You are being sarcastic or...
B. You dont proofread your posts
A. You are being sarcastic or...
B. You dont proofread your posts
A...DUUUUUH!
Read more than one of my posts, I go back, proof, and edit any glaring errors.
In case you missed it, and I understand why you wouldn't want to slog through the entire thread:
Dothammer wrote (later):
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The last paragraph of the original post was meant to illustrate why I likened improper grammar to scraping nails on a blackboard. Mistakes were INTENTIONAL! (Yeah I know how to spell diatribe. 'Diettribe' is funnier.)
Kelti said it best:
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Four the humer empaired...
[Post Edit]
Is 'whoot' a word Mr. Spelling ****? Or did you just make that up? Seems the pot is calling the kettle...oh nevermind someone will think THAT is racist...
Edited, Mon Apr 12 10:11:22 2004 by Dothammer
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Actually he was being sarcastic ;)
And I have no idea where the replies actually go. Who ever said the end of the post gets fullmarks... You learn something new everyday.
Edited, Mon Apr 12 18:20:01 2004 by Devran
And I have no idea where the replies actually go. Who ever said the end of the post gets fullmarks... You learn something new everyday.
Edited, Mon Apr 12 18:20:01 2004 by Devran
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I suppose it just depends on whether you believe gays & ***** to be good or bad
either way, it's not up for you to judge people on their sexuality or political views, as for dothammer, lighten up, im sure you can stomach peoples grammatical errors, oh and vannick -
top marks for making yourself look sillyIf people HAD judged people's political views, maybe so many other people would not have been killed by the politically incorrect **** hoard.
/em wonders how the hell he missed this thread the first time around.
I love this thread. Very near and dear to my heart. I am, apparently, a grammar ****. (Or ****, if you prefer.) I am also a spelling ****, though I've learned not to correct people on that subject anymore. I actually have a copy of The Elements of Style. (Or at least I used to. I'm in Central Florida and it may be amongst the books that were ruined in the storms. I'm still sorting stuff out.)
Occasional simple errors do not bother me overmuch, I understand that they are usually the result of someone typing too fast or some other honest mistake. No big deal - we all do that. Nor do I mind it much in a chat, where content is supposed to take precedence over structure.
But this is a place where you have ample opportunity to review your work and make corrections and edits long before you actually post it to the board. I find it jarring when I'm engrossed in reading a thread and I come across a post with such bad grammar that I have to stop and re-read it to try to determine what the hell the author meant. Suddenly, I'm no longer thinking about the subject of the thread, I'm working to decipher a poorly written post. I'm usually tempted to just skip the post, but then I fear I will miss a very good point buried in the bad grammar.
I don't expect everyone to be grammatically perfect, naturally. I hold myself to high standards of grammar (which I usually fall short of, sadly), but I do that for my own personal reasons and I don't hold others to those same standards. Nevertheless, I agree with Dothammer that *very* bad grammar and certain commonly repeated errors drive me friggin' nuts. (Your/you're, to/too, then/than, there/their, incorrect use of 's (apostrophe-s, the possesive), mixing of tenses, and misuse or lack of punctuation are some of my biggies. Oh, and it's says, not sais!)
Having said all that there stuff, it's interesting to me that the last example gbaji gave ("i go to a store and friends their and ask icecream more like. Chocolate much more then vanilla but Joe strawberry") is actually acceptable grammar in American Sign Language. (Assuming that you used the signs for what was meant rather than what was spelled.)
I love this thread. Very near and dear to my heart. I am, apparently, a grammar ****. (Or ****, if you prefer.) I am also a spelling ****, though I've learned not to correct people on that subject anymore. I actually have a copy of The Elements of Style. (Or at least I used to. I'm in Central Florida and it may be amongst the books that were ruined in the storms. I'm still sorting stuff out.)
Occasional simple errors do not bother me overmuch, I understand that they are usually the result of someone typing too fast or some other honest mistake. No big deal - we all do that. Nor do I mind it much in a chat, where content is supposed to take precedence over structure.
But this is a place where you have ample opportunity to review your work and make corrections and edits long before you actually post it to the board. I find it jarring when I'm engrossed in reading a thread and I come across a post with such bad grammar that I have to stop and re-read it to try to determine what the hell the author meant. Suddenly, I'm no longer thinking about the subject of the thread, I'm working to decipher a poorly written post. I'm usually tempted to just skip the post, but then I fear I will miss a very good point buried in the bad grammar.
I don't expect everyone to be grammatically perfect, naturally. I hold myself to high standards of grammar (which I usually fall short of, sadly), but I do that for my own personal reasons and I don't hold others to those same standards. Nevertheless, I agree with Dothammer that *very* bad grammar and certain commonly repeated errors drive me friggin' nuts. (Your/you're, to/too, then/than, there/their, incorrect use of 's (apostrophe-s, the possesive), mixing of tenses, and misuse or lack of punctuation are some of my biggies. Oh, and it's says, not sais!)
Having said all that there stuff, it's interesting to me that the last example gbaji gave ("i go to a store and friends their and ask icecream more like. Chocolate much more then vanilla but Joe strawberry") is actually acceptable grammar in American Sign Language. (Assuming that you used the signs for what was meant rather than what was spelled.)
This thread should live forever. Words are vehicle of the soul, but are astonishingly mutable. So the ultimately transcendent rides in the ultimately intransigent.
Remember Humpty Dumpty in Alice?
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till I tell you. I meant, 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,'" Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean do many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."
Alice was much too puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them--particularly verbs: they're the proudest--adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs--however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means?"
"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. "I meant by 'impenetrability' that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life."
"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."
"Oh!" said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
"Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night," Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side, "for to get their wages, you know."
Excerpt from Through the Looking-Glass, by Lewis Carroll
Remember Humpty Dumpty in Alice?
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't--till I tell you. I meant, 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,'" Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean do many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."
Alice was much too puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them--particularly verbs: they're the proudest--adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs--however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means?"
"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. "I meant by 'impenetrability' that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life."
"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."
"Oh!" said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
"Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night," Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side, "for to get their wages, you know."
Excerpt from Through the Looking-Glass, by Lewis Carroll
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