Ok im some what confused.
I got my level 19 spells,and im still a noob.
I took my dru to EK,so I could befriend some griffons and make them do my dirt work.
1.) If I use a griffon and have it kill a mob is it LESS epx then if I were to DOT it and not use a griffon?
2.) the exp I get during a pet kill on dark blues seemt to be VERY LOW. Should I also run up and mele a few times and let the animal hit me afew times also?
They say drus are king of solo and fast leveling, but im not seeing the EXP roling in.
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I'm speaking out of place since my main is paladin and my druid is only level 11, but here it goes anyways.
I understand that they are the soloing kings because of quad kiting ability, and kiting in general. So that means you can take on white, yellow and red mobs with greater ease than most, hence the greater exp. The dark blues in an outdoor zone won't get you much exp no matter who you are. When you're able to quad, that 4x the exp per go, so that's when it really rolls in. I'll leave the pet part to someone else becuase I have no idea.
I understand that they are the soloing kings because of quad kiting ability, and kiting in general. So that means you can take on white, yellow and red mobs with greater ease than most, hence the greater exp. The dark blues in an outdoor zone won't get you much exp no matter who you are. When you're able to quad, that 4x the exp per go, so that's when it really rolls in. I'll leave the pet part to someone else becuase I have no idea.
you always want to do some damage (low lvl DoT) to a mob if you are charm killing. If your pet does all the damage, you get a very low percentage of the xp.
Rules for charmed pets and xp were changed during the PoP era due to the amount of xp chanters were raking in. It used to be that 1pt of damage from the player was all you needed to prevent the pet from taking the lion's share, but it's my understanding that charmed pets now eat a lot of xp these days unless the party (or solo players) does the majority of the damage.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I play a bard and we usually use charm in a completely different manner.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I play a bard and we usually use charm in a completely different manner.
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How much low level DOT is needed toget the full exp comming?
Should I do some melee instead?
Should I do some melee instead?
it is my understanding that if you outdamage the pet, you will get full xp from the mob....if you just do a little damage, i think you only get like 75% xp. Not 100% sure on that though.
At low lvls melee damage would be fine (most certainly don't wanna do this at higher lvls). Just be aware that if you are melee range, the mob will be hitting you, not the pet.
Edited, Fri Apr 2 15:06:08 2004 by jrmayii
At low lvls melee damage would be fine (most certainly don't wanna do this at higher lvls). Just be aware that if you are melee range, the mob will be hitting you, not the pet.
Edited, Fri Apr 2 15:06:08 2004 by jrmayii
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From what I have heard, if you do at least 1pt of damage, you will get at least 33% of the xp. If you do more than 51% of the damage you will get all of the xp.
From my experience from charm killing loroks in PoS, this seems to be true for the most part, except there are different amounts of xp you receive in between the 33% or 100%, depending on the damage that you do.
From my experience from charm killing loroks in PoS, this seems to be true for the most part, except there are different amounts of xp you receive in between the 33% or 100%, depending on the damage that you do.
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Ok,
then what is the advantage in befriend an animal and having it attack for you?
It is now sounding much better just toload my DOT, Snare, Root and a nuke or 2.
Still learning the dru.
Thanks for all the help so far.
then what is the advantage in befriend an animal and having it attack for you?
It is now sounding much better just toload my DOT, Snare, Root and a nuke or 2.
Still learning the dru.
Thanks for all the help so far.
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I'm pretty sure that if you do atleast 1 pt of damage to a mob when you have a pet (summoned or charmed) you get full exp. Dire charm is when you need to worry about the damage you do, becuase if the DC pet does more damage then you, exp reduction takes affect. Not sure of the exact percentage the reduction is, but it is there.
Edited, Fri Apr 2 17:39:47 2004 by Bardacus
Edited, Fri Apr 2 17:39:47 2004 by Bardacus
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the advantage is the amount of mobs you can take down in a certain period of time. if you charm an animal and then throw feral spirit on it you can walk through mobs quickly. throw in a couple of low level nukes or dots and then when your own pet is low on health root and bake or nuke it to death. the exp will roll in. rinse repeat. A druids real solo ability shines through when they get the necessary spells for quad kiting. Which sadly isn't until lvl 34 with lightning strike. I personally would stick to root and bake. But choose yellows or white cons to root and bake. will suck your mana but it should also give you a nice return on your exp. Its funner to charm stuff though.. it can lead to some very hairy situations..
Lake of ill omen has several mobs around lvl 20. Not sure about the exp nerf but I still get good exp and its always deserted now at least. Happy hunting.
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Lake of ill omen has several mobs around lvl 20. Not sure about the exp nerf but I still get good exp and its always deserted now at least. Happy hunting.
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It works like this: If you charm a pet and use it to kill another mob you get 66% of the exp as long as you do some (even 1Pt) not sure what happens if you do not damage, maybe 50%. The remaining 33% is divided between you and your pet based on damage out put. If you do a third of the damage and your pet does the other two thirds to kill, you get 66% plus 11% = 77%
The other tactic you may to use is breaking charm when both are low and root rotting them both, you get full exp then.
As I often charm in Tactics, PoS and Nadox, I find that depending on haow fast you are killing, and how many targets you have to kill, you vary your methods.
Nadox, Buff up pet, epic / Hand of Ro then med for healing.
PoS, I snare, debuff then pull and root frog near wall. Then pull next frog to same spot and root. Charm one and let it beat the other down. When both are close to death, invis and keep both rooted. Dot them to death and get HUGE exp. I do this because there are only 7 frogs total, 23 minute re pop time.
PoTactics: No buffs on pet other than Savage Spirit, otherwise I try to use only epic and Hand of Ro and med the rest of time. (Big Heals are needed between mobs)
Maybe they did a stealth nerf since POP but I don't think so.
The other tactic you may to use is breaking charm when both are low and root rotting them both, you get full exp then.
As I often charm in Tactics, PoS and Nadox, I find that depending on haow fast you are killing, and how many targets you have to kill, you vary your methods.
Nadox, Buff up pet, epic / Hand of Ro then med for healing.
PoS, I snare, debuff then pull and root frog near wall. Then pull next frog to same spot and root. Charm one and let it beat the other down. When both are close to death, invis and keep both rooted. Dot them to death and get HUGE exp. I do this because there are only 7 frogs total, 23 minute re pop time.
PoTactics: No buffs on pet other than Savage Spirit, otherwise I try to use only epic and Hand of Ro and med the rest of time. (Big Heals are needed between mobs)
Maybe they did a stealth nerf since POP but I don't think so.
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I'm pretty sure that if you do atleast 1 pt of damage to a mob when you have a pet (summoned or charmed) you get full exp. Dire charm is when you need to worry about the damage you do, becuase if the DC pet does more damage then you, exp reduction takes affect. Not sure of the exact percentage the reduction is, but it is there.
You're wrong bardacus. Experience for charmed pets was changed. The amount of experience you recieve is based on the percentage of damage you do. Just do 1 damage and you're going to get about 1/3 of the normal experience for a mob.
The advantage to using a charmed pet is that usually a mob is going to do much more damage than you could do on your own, and will cost you less mana, allowing you to hunt more, med less. So it kind of equals out.
The key to charm hunting is controlled breaking of charm. Use your pet normally until it's down to about 30%. On the next pull allow your pet to beat on the target until it's down to about 5-10%. Then cast invisibility on yourself. This will break charm and your pet will revert to being a normal mob(At this point your pet WILL come after you. Be prepared for this with root or as a druid, make sure your charmed pet is snared at all times). Then just nuke the target until it's dead, nuke your pet until it's dead(You just got full experience for 2 kills plus whatever partial experience you pet got you before you killed him for very little mana cost). This may not seem like much, but in the long run that extra bonus will really add up.
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I wasn't positive on the charm pets but the 1pt of damage for full exp still applies to reg. pets right? (mage necro etc.) If they changed it I would like to know because I didnt catch it.
Yup, you're right about the 1 point of damage to get full experience with summoned pets. it was changed for charmed pets because at higher levels you can charm some VERY strong mobs that would give a player an unfair advantage if they received full experience for kills.
At 57 my enchanter using a charmed mob can actually hang with and even sometimes outdamage my brother's 65 necro using a summoned pet.
Edited, Sat Apr 3 13:57:23 2004 by danreynolds
At 57 my enchanter using a charmed mob can actually hang with and even sometimes outdamage my brother's 65 necro using a summoned pet.
Edited, Sat Apr 3 13:57:23 2004 by danreynolds
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