First there was the skypatch - and everyone had odd problems. So I dunno if it's my problem or EQ's problem...
Anyway I have an odd problem. My computer seems to run EQ just fine - on 512M RAM. If I pop in another stick of RAM (and yes my motherboard can do it just fine, processor is happy, Nvidia GForce 5200 vid card is spiffy too....), then suddenly I play EQ for like 10 minutes and poof:
Everquest has detected that your client may have crashed....
Everything will be FINE, then poof - I'm sitting at a window asking if I want to send the data of my client crash to EQ. Yeahsurefine. Crashes me out of Everquest with all the force of it I'd just hit /exit. What's even stranger, I never appear to go LD to anyone else - I'm there...and then I'm not (and can log back onto the server immediately after the crash with none of the usual 1018 errors).
I went through every software thing I could (down to a full teardown and restore of WinXP Pro, all drivers, dx9, etc) and still had the problem.
I took out the extra stick of RAM (back down to 512 from 1G) and suddenly everything is fine again.
My system operates *beautifully* with that extra stick of RAM when I'm *not* playing EQ...so I'm reluctant to believe there is something wrong with the memory card.
Any ideas?
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Couldn't tell ya...the comp I use runs on a gig of RAM too, never had any problems.
However, i will notice my toolbar icons will flash on the EQ screen while i'm playing. Anyone have thoughts on that?
Edited, Tue Mar 30 09:04:34 2004 by psychojester
However, i will notice my toolbar icons will flash on the EQ screen while i'm playing. Anyone have thoughts on that?
Edited, Tue Mar 30 09:04:34 2004 by psychojester
I get the toolbar flashing on the screen thing too. Starts after I Alt+Enter out of the game and back to full screen again. I think it started just after the 3/25 patch.
Some blinkies from my tool bar are shining through since patch after I go in window mode and back - can be annoying some times :/
Check your RAM stick. It's not uncommon to have 'bad' RAM.
To do this, just take out all other memory chips and run a few programs for a while (other than EQ). Also, wouldn't hurt to leave the PC on overnight with the RAM that you are testing. If you encounter errors, it's most likely bad memory.
To do this, just take out all other memory chips and run a few programs for a while (other than EQ). Also, wouldn't hurt to leave the PC on overnight with the RAM that you are testing. If you encounter errors, it's most likely bad memory.
To clarify just a bit more if I may:
EQ uses as much of your system resources as it possibly can, including all available RAM. Games in general are resource pigs, and EQ in particular is a bit sloppy in that regard.
You may not notice a problem with that stick of RAM outside of EQ because, well, you may never be hitting it. Do you play other RAM intensive games?
I'd try swapping it in as suggested above just to eliminate it as the problem.
EQ uses as much of your system resources as it possibly can, including all available RAM. Games in general are resource pigs, and EQ in particular is a bit sloppy in that regard.
You may not notice a problem with that stick of RAM outside of EQ because, well, you may never be hitting it. Do you play other RAM intensive games?
I'd try swapping it in as suggested above just to eliminate it as the problem.
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ive also had the toolbar flashies. seems to go away tho if i minimize every window im running besides EQ, and just use EQ fullscreen. or go fullscreen and window mode a couple of times, just back and forth.
Edited, Tue Mar 30 10:41:22 2004 by Anung
Edited, Tue Mar 30 10:41:22 2004 by Anung
There was an problem in Win 98 with EQ where if you told windows to only use the first 512 everything worked fine, but if you have a high end rig you are probably not using Windows 98. The 'shocking' factoid from the past may not be of any use to you, but I just thought I would throw it out there.
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If you want to make sure, run some memory tests. I use the free golden memory test tool at home. I don't have the URL with me atm...
Scholar
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It's more than likely your RAM being bad as was mentioned before. I've had this problem on more than one occasion and found the program memtest86 found at http://www.memtest86.com to be easy to use (rather than cracking the case again) and has confirmed bad RAM both times I've had them.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Yup, sounds like bad ram...
I have a bad stick too but I can get away with it for now and I find it exciting to play, "When will I crash?" =P I am so lazy...
I have a bad stick too but I can get away with it for now and I find it exciting to play, "When will I crash?" =P I am so lazy...
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Here's a URL to Microsoft's Windows Memory Diagnostic, makes a boot disk that checks your RAM. It comes in handy.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Although I don't know why it's named "Windows".
Edit: Fixed bad link
Edited, Tue Mar 30 13:36:47 2004 by JBSpeed
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
Although I don't know why it's named "Windows".
Edit: Fixed bad link
Edited, Tue Mar 30 13:36:47 2004 by JBSpeed
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If you don't want to download a ram checking utility, most motherboards have an option in the bios called "Fast Boot" and default is set to on. Turn fast boot off and your system will run a check of all the ram addresses. If it finds bad ram, it will stop the startup process.
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I have had this same problem. It was caused from a bad stick of RAM. My RAM was purchased from a local vender. They where more than happy to exchange it for a new stick, and poof no more problems. Hope this gets you back in the game!
Swap out the exrtra stick of ram with one of the other two. I have had ram, that had an unusual amount of errors. See if that works before doing anything major. (Or even just use only that stick)
Gonna second all the other comments. There's no such thing as having "too much ram" on a system (ok, there is, but not for a home user).
If you add a hardware component to your system and something that works fine before crashes, then the odds about close to 100% it's that hardware that's bad. In the case of ram, it's just a bad stick.
Normal use of a PC does not come close to using even 512 MB of ram. The reason it's not crashing is because it's not trying to use the bad ram (or not hitting the bad ram bit). Just take the stick back where you got it, tell them it's bad and you want a replacement stick. There's hardly even a need to do testing in this case, the odds of it being anything other then that stick of ram are infintesimal.
If you add a hardware component to your system and something that works fine before crashes, then the odds about close to 100% it's that hardware that's bad. In the case of ram, it's just a bad stick.
Normal use of a PC does not come close to using even 512 MB of ram. The reason it's not crashing is because it's not trying to use the bad ram (or not hitting the bad ram bit). Just take the stick back where you got it, tell them it's bad and you want a replacement stick. There's hardly even a need to do testing in this case, the odds of it being anything other then that stick of ram are infintesimal.
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I have graphics files I work on that are incredibly huge, with 50 or 60 layers. THEY do not use as much ram as EQ most of the time.
All I have to say is that I *WISH* I could run 1 gig memory. I have a HP that is maxxed out at 512. If anybody knows how to add beyond the systems limit, I would love to hear about it. 
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In response to the last postif your system says the max ram is 512 the only way to change is to change the motherboard. I have 512 in mine upgradable to 2 gigs i think. I would highly recommend upgrade the ram and checking it with tools when you do that are posted here. Also when i run some programs including EQ i make sure that i free up as much ram as possible with RamBooster. You can find it on cnet. It will free up the ram on your memory stick to let u use the most ram available for the app that your about to use.
Could well be "bad RAM", but there's also the "wrong RAM".
I have 1024Mb DDR - all fine
Was given a 256Mb stick and thought 'what the hell - I often run several instances of EQ and more RAM should help' - Mucho Crasho
Took it out and all's fine.
Turns out the speed of the 256Mb wasn't the same as the 1024 (133 Vs 2100). The 256Mb is running fine in a friend's PC now, so it's worth checking
I have 1024Mb DDR - all fine
Was given a 256Mb stick and thought 'what the hell - I often run several instances of EQ and more RAM should help' - Mucho Crasho
Took it out and all's fine.
Turns out the speed of the 256Mb wasn't the same as the 1024 (133 Vs 2100). The 256Mb is running fine in a friend's PC now, so it's worth checking
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
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Turns out the speed of the 256Mb wasn't the same as the 1024 (133 Vs 2100). The 256Mb is running fine in a friend's PC now, so it's worth checking
I Agree check and make sure you have the same speed of ram. Also sound too me that your (Power Supply) might not be up too the job. Yes more ram or faster ram means more power needed. Ya sure your other apps could run fine but I doubt seriously they use as much resources as EQ. My point is in EQ you useing alot of CPU power Then you facter in your Graphic Card is on full load Then your Ram is on full load,and the extra Stick you added is Drawing on it; crash and burn every time. If your power supply say 250 watt max think you should up grade to a bigger one also if its the oem version that came with your computer upgrade it.
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I had this problem with EQ a few months back, 10 minutes then POOF! What it turned out to be was I was using DDR333 and I put in a stick of RAM that was DDR266... (it should have just slowed my computers RAM speed down) but my machine started exhibiting the same behavior as Vashra's... I took the DDR266 out... added a new DDR333 stick and like magic (ok... "like technology") the problem ceased.
Are all your sticks of RAM the same speed?
Are your RAM sticks all from the same manufacturer? (This might play a minor roll in your problem)
Dunno if this will help but it might be worth a try.
-Crawling
Are all your sticks of RAM the same speed?
Are your RAM sticks all from the same manufacturer? (This might play a minor roll in your problem)
Dunno if this will help but it might be worth a try.
-Crawling
P4 3.0Ghz
1.0GB Corsair Performance RAM
ATI Radeon 9800XT PRO
2 120GB RAID-1 aligned HD's
Too many other bells and whistles...
Several video problems, including random crashes of client and graphic anomalies like WinXP shining through, etc...Nothing that really distracts from gameplay, though
1.0GB Corsair Performance RAM
ATI Radeon 9800XT PRO
2 120GB RAID-1 aligned HD's
Too many other bells and whistles...
Several video problems, including random crashes of client and graphic anomalies like WinXP shining through, etc...Nothing that really distracts from gameplay, though
I think you may have a bad stick of ram. I am not sure, but it sound like it to me, based on all the other posters that have said so.
I bought some extra RAM when I got my new computer, and the computer took a very long time to boot up and random things just would not work. i.e. my mouse didn't work, then I rebooted and my internet connection didn't work. When I took the RAM out it worked as well as before. It more or less seemed like I had just gone over the threshold of my power supply. So I just took the RAM back for a refund, and when I do decide to upgrade again I'll probably just take it to a computer store and have them check it out, so I don't have to deal with replacing the power supply, etc. (I've built a computer before, the one before my current one, and it was such a hassle that I'm more than happy to pay someone else to do it now.)
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Now correct me if I am wrong but Win98 / ME will not (without tweaking) support more than 512 Meg RAM. At least this is what I thought.
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