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#77 Apr 07 2004 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good
importance is of course an individual thing - I am not talking about anything being relevant to me being also relevenat to this thread, this bord, this world ;-)
#78 Apr 07 2004 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
Leiany, are you still babbling on in this thread?

I will give you credit for stuborness, though the lack of credit in other categories still leaves you deficient.


#79 Apr 07 2004 at 6:05 PM Rating: Good
I mostly lack YOUR answer on my question 8 posts up.
#80 Apr 07 2004 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
Oh for heaven's sake Leiany. You misunderstood an english coloquilism, so what. Move on!

By the way, if I had said "you better pull your head in" then your response would have been understandable. Perhaps you misread some how and thought that that is what I said?

Anyway, there is a subtle but very significant difference between the two.

Down at my local pub, telling someone to "keep their head down" will most likely elicit a slap on the back and some friendly banter.

Telling someone to "pull their head in" will likely result in a punch on the nose.

But you still haven't answered my question.

How do you reconcile your post requesting more websites revealling even more game information, with your statement that you are a "rather hardcore roleplayer"?

#81 Apr 07 2004 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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    #82 Apr 07 2004 at 7:25 PM Rating: Decent
    Leiany wrote:


    And if makes a difference if someone tells you to "keep your head down" (be)cause someone might come after you or implying he may do the job yourself (I think you meant "himself", but I'm not a grammar **** Smiley: smile) if you insist on your opinion.



    OK it is drawing a very long bow, but yes you might draw that implication if the poster was widely known to be a "hardcore roleplayer" with a history of attacking people over this issue.

    Something I am clearly not, if any thing I have a record of arguing for moderation on both sides of the debate.

    However, as anyone who does understand "the subtleties of the English language" would know (and any one who has read my more argumentative posts over the years would expect), that the use of "better keep your head down" (implying "or I'll knock it off") is way to soft to use as an outright attack.

    As mentioned in my previous post, the much more natural idiom is to say "better pull your head in" (implying "or I will chop it off!") Much more suitable in the context of an EQ debate wouldn't you say? Smiley: smile
    #83 Apr 08 2004 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
    Leiany wrote:
    If Illuen states that
    "this was meant as a warning to Leiany because I did not want her to be attacked by someone else if she kept up that attitude"I would apologize for my severe misunderstanding and thank Iluen for caring about me.

    But it has not happened so far.


    My old post is still valid :) (as most of them are)
    #84 Apr 08 2004 at 7:11 AM Rating: Good
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    Leiany wrote:
    My old post is still valid
    No it isn't. It's paranoid, self-deluded, obsessive, and shows an utter lack of self awareness. Smiley: grin
    Dig any deeper and you'll need a ladder to get out of the hole you've dug.Smiley: dnp


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    #85 Apr 08 2004 at 7:29 AM Rating: Good
    Iluien the Silent wrote:
    But you still haven't answered my question.

    How do you reconcile your post requesting more websites revealling even more game information, with your statement that you are a "rather hardcore roleplayer"?


    Usually I don't fall for the "justify yourself" trap but in this case I will jump in on purpose try to rely on my safe-fall-skill.

    My definition of a hardcore role-player is simply someone who's choices are not dictated by success I never choose a certain race/class combination because of the benefits - instead I choose what I like and what's "appropriate" in my opinion.

    For all my toons I choose armor and weapons partly because of the look of it. My Rogue pn FV bought a very effective bow once but it had the graphic of a bag so I sold it and bought a less effective one.

    When I decided to play a kitten I did not ask myself or anyone else "whats the best class a vah shir can play" Finally I decided for a beastlord because the "tigger with a tiger warden" picture was cool in my opinion.

    My cleric learned smithing in Kaladim on the bone chips she saved while fighting skellies as a noob and you can ask why I never created a dwarf as my smith but I just dont like the appearence of dwarfs so I'd never play one.

    I know Necros and Dark Elves are great (both combined maybe even better) but I am a traveller and I dont like the feeling I am KOS in half of Norrath so race and class are no option to me.

    Last month I toyed around with a Ranger and as she foraged backpacks full of stuff I started her to be a brewer although her stats on WIS/INT suck. AND I bought her a ******* Hunting Bow at lvl 1 and made her a fletcher too because I dont care if a bow is worth it at lvl 1 (especially the crappy ones at the vendors)- shes a WOOD ELF, I want to see her shoot arrows into orcs :)

    I gather a LOT of information on tradeskills, yes! But that doesn't mean I rise my skills by the book from 1-200 in one playing session. Instead I still smith up on rusty weapons with my cleric (although shes over 120 now), she always has a file and extra water to make bits, studs and sheets after an adventure. And my Wood elf does a brewery session each time her backpacks are full with fruits, berries and vegetables. And the combines that have no further use I offer to my companions when in a group. I mean - getting a flask of berry juice from a wood elf girl in the desert of Ro is an appealing picture, isn't it?

    I also adventure only where I like the scenery. I hate the looks of the Karanas and Qeynos Hills, and I disliked Cabilis strongly so my Qeynos toon kept dying in the catacombs because I LOVE the athmosphere and my Iksar simply got deleted.

    This is justification to call myself a hard-core roleplayer - this and the fact I have about 80 social macros just for conversation (including 4 different ways to thank someone....)

    /em checks her safe-fall-skill





    Edited, Thu Apr 8 08:28:46 2004 by Leiany
    #86 Apr 08 2004 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
    Nobby wrote:
    Leiany wrote:
    My old post is still valid
    No it isn't. It's paranoid, self-deluded, obsessive, and shows an utter lack of self awareness. Smiley: grin
    Dig any deeper and you'll need a ladder to get out of the hole you've dug.Smiley: dnp
    If offering an apology is "digging the hole deeper" I understand why people here are seldom seen with a shovel.
    #87 Apr 08 2004 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
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    I haven't actually seen your apology, Leiany. I re-read acouple of times. It must be too subtle for me or maybe omitted by rating filters.

    But if you say you apologised that is fine. You finally accept you misunderstood the phrase and are going to stop arguing. Wonderful.

    And your definition of a hardcore roleplayer would barely pass muster on FV. It is fairly similar to my own playstyle and I would not call myself a "hardcore" roleplayer (facultative possibly). A lot of it has to do with attitudes to the game rather than roleplay. The whole "journey not the destination" thing. This approach can be enjoyed just as much by roleplayers and non-roleplayers alike. All it needs is the recognition that you can play the game at any level and enjoy it.



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    #88 Apr 08 2004 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
    Cobra101 wrote:
    I haven't actually seen your apology,
    I didn't apologize I offered an apology.

    And that offer has not been taken seriously yet I am afraid.
    #89 Apr 08 2004 at 9:41 AM Rating: Default
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    Leiany wrote:
    Ok - one for the stubborns:

    If you make a statement in you office and someone answers it with a "You better keep your head down!" how would you (all) react?

    Edited, Sun Apr 4 03:27:24 2004 by Leiany


    *Shuffles in, looks around and with great trepidation then answers*

    It depends.........

    No, seriously, it does. :D

    In the example you gave above you specified that it was someone in an office speaking. In that situation the listener would have a whole plethera of extra clues to help figure out the intended meaning. Most especially the tone of voice, speed and cadecance of words used and the facial expression of the speaker add a huge amount to the perceived meaning of any spoken phrase.

    In forums like these, those extra clues are completely absent and we are left purely with the words. This lack of context almost always leads to missinterpreation of the words and the senders intent. This is an essential fact of text communication that has been around since the first words were scawled on tablets and sent to others.

    The difficulty that the internet brings to the mix is that the speed at which posts are written often results in a lack of self editing during writing and we forget to reread the post to ensure we really are saying what we intended to say and that it won't be misinterpretted.

    I'm afraid most of the above misunderstanding can be ascribed to the old WW1 addage of "Send three and four pence, we're going to a dance". So people, just chill.

    Now to get back onto the point of RP ****'s complaining about stat sites spoiling their game....... ROFL, so what were they doing visiting this site in the first place? If they don't want to know the stats then they don't have to come here - simple.
    #90 Apr 08 2004 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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    #91 Apr 08 2004 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
    LMAO Patrician!.....dang i needed a good laugh this morning.
    #92 Apr 08 2004 at 12:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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    LOL Patrician. Smiley: lol

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    #93 Apr 08 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
    Don't you people know yet that arguing with the spawn of **** sympathizers is a pointless act? I mean, come on, people, this person is a product of the people who jumped with both feet in to the comfy cozy sleeping bag with Hitler. And you expect rational thought from her? LOL

    In her case it really is just like the special olympics. Arguing with her really will make leave you retarded.

    (psst! Leiany, that was a shot. Don't mis-read and think it was ambiguous or anything. :)
    #94 Apr 08 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
    DDP

    Edited, Thu Apr 8 14:33:01 2004 by MoebiusLord
    #95 Apr 08 2004 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    LOL, just had to check this post out to see if it was going anywhere. Nope. LOL

    Leiany, that doesn't make you a role-player, just superficial.
    #96 Apr 08 2004 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
    MoebiusLord the Flatulent wrote:
    I mean, come on, people, this person is a product of the people who jumped with both feet in to the comfy cozy sleeping bag with Hitler.
    Well Amoeba, its good enough to become governor of california Arnold Schwarzenegger Bio - so it will have to be good enough for this board too ;-)
    #97 Apr 09 2004 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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    Well Amoeba, its good enough to become governor of california Arnold Schwarzenegger Bio - so it will have to be good enough for this board too ;-)

    LOL That's the best you've got? I just called you a **** sympathizer and the best you can think of is to call me an amoeba and point out that the governor of California is an *** grabbing former Austrian US citizen? Christ, you're pathetic. You get all bent out of shape when you misunderstand a comment made by someone trying to be helpful, but when I take a direct shot at you all you have to say is that? LMAO
    #98 Apr 09 2004 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
    FanDancer wrote:
    In forums like these, those extra clues are completely absent and we are left purely with the words. This lack of context almost always leads to missinterpreation of the words and the senders intent. This is an essential fact of text communication that has been around since the first words were scawled on tablets and sent to others.


    In many cases that is correct, except when the comment is accompanied by ample explanation. All of the text before and after the comment clarified the statement. He told her that the topic she brought up had brought considerable debate and so she should "keep her head down" lest the EQ ***** target her as well.

    Now, how that can be interpreted as an offensive statement I do not know. The entire context of Il's message was in the positive.
    #99 Apr 09 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
    And Leiany, to answer your question from many posts up...from the context of your message. But I will admit that after further review you probably did not mean to imply that I said it. Touche.

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