EQ coverage is huge but there are some things I personally missed(but maybe I did not find them) here are some samples of what I would like to see:
The Complete Underwater Adventure Guide - once we got our gnome environment suite it would be nice to know where to take it out for dinner ;-)
Cultural Armor for Dummies - not only including who can make what stuff but also who can wear it later on (especially regarding imbued pieces) and also including sub-skill and forageing/looting charts for components =)
Recycling for Beginners - a chart for each zone showing what TS usable stuff is foraged or dropped there and which recipes it feeds (I know that most stuff shows "can be used in tradeskills" but rusty weapons don't p.e. and no newbie would collect unstackable black wolf skins for selling them in the Bazaar if he knew it can only be used for making poison vials.....
Anyone else got somthing on their wish list?
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I'm working on a comprehensive "every possible everquest tech issue" faq/encyclopedia. Should be done in the next 40 years.
Complete Underwater Guide - Can't help you much there. I know Kedge Keep is completely underwater, beyond that don't know of any other zone.
Cultural Armor for Dummies
A listing of each zone with the TS usable items available in each
A list of each zone and the items foraged there
All found at EQ Traders Corner
Edit: Forgot to mention that the above lists allow you to click on the item in question and easily navigate to information regarding the recipes which use that item. Also the foraging tables don't include the items that are common to all zones (fruit, berries, vegetables, etc.). Quite a handy site that EQTC.
Edited, Tue Mar 30 08:12:40 2004 by VWDiesel
Cultural Armor for Dummies
A listing of each zone with the TS usable items available in each
A list of each zone and the items foraged there
All found at EQ Traders Corner
Edit: Forgot to mention that the above lists allow you to click on the item in question and easily navigate to information regarding the recipes which use that item. Also the foraging tables don't include the items that are common to all zones (fruit, berries, vegetables, etc.). Quite a handy site that EQTC.
Edited, Tue Mar 30 08:12:40 2004 by VWDiesel
EQtraders is great and I use it all the time but when I was very new to the game I would have been glad to have something more readable and printable. This should be no crticism to EQtraders but you need to do a lot of cross-reference before you know which to keep and which to throw away.
Maybe I do a dummy-guide like that myself one day ;-)
Maybe I do a dummy-guide like that myself one day ;-)
True, even the printer-friendly versions of the pages at EQTC may not be able to give you all that you need in one nice neat package.
I've made my own guides (for personal use only) just cutting and pasting the item/recipe info from their pages and printing it out. Actually, I cut the info I need, dump it into Notepad to get rid of any HTML formatting (i.e. making it text only) and the copy the text from Notepad into MS Word. I then format as necessary and print it out to use. If you copy from the website and paste straight to MS Word it will keep the HTML format in the Word document, which I don't like. The final product can take a bit of work but I have nice little guides to jewelcraft and some other tradeskills that I find invaluable.
Also, if I don't know what an item is for, I just hold on to it until I gather 10 or 20 different unknown items, then I just look them all up at once. Might not work well if you are really strapped for bank space, but it works quite well for me. Given the vast number of zones, and far more vast number of items, the idea of making a guide that explains what each one is for seems quite daunting, not to mention the fact that the nature of some items could change from patch to patch. Seems more reasonable to me to just spend 20 mins a couple of times a week checking here at Alla or at EQTC to discover the true nature of that odd forage or drop.
What really irks me are the items for which there is no known use. Do you keep them, hoping that at some point it will be discovered that they are critical to some cool quest or recipe? Or trash them, in an effort to clear bank space? Normally it's choice B for me.
I guess the bottom line is that I am eternally grateful that Alla's and EQTC even exist for me to look the items up, much less have the extensive recipe and quest information at my fingertips should said item prove to be useful to my toon.
I've made my own guides (for personal use only) just cutting and pasting the item/recipe info from their pages and printing it out. Actually, I cut the info I need, dump it into Notepad to get rid of any HTML formatting (i.e. making it text only) and the copy the text from Notepad into MS Word. I then format as necessary and print it out to use. If you copy from the website and paste straight to MS Word it will keep the HTML format in the Word document, which I don't like. The final product can take a bit of work but I have nice little guides to jewelcraft and some other tradeskills that I find invaluable.
Also, if I don't know what an item is for, I just hold on to it until I gather 10 or 20 different unknown items, then I just look them all up at once. Might not work well if you are really strapped for bank space, but it works quite well for me. Given the vast number of zones, and far more vast number of items, the idea of making a guide that explains what each one is for seems quite daunting, not to mention the fact that the nature of some items could change from patch to patch. Seems more reasonable to me to just spend 20 mins a couple of times a week checking here at Alla or at EQTC to discover the true nature of that odd forage or drop.
What really irks me are the items for which there is no known use. Do you keep them, hoping that at some point it will be discovered that they are critical to some cool quest or recipe? Or trash them, in an effort to clear bank space? Normally it's choice B for me.
I guess the bottom line is that I am eternally grateful that Alla's and EQTC even exist for me to look the items up, much less have the extensive recipe and quest information at my fingertips should said item prove to be useful to my toon.
VWDiesel wrote:
Complete Underwater Guide - Can't help you much there. I know Kedge Keep is completely underwater, beyond that don't know of any other zone.
Cultural Armor for Dummies
A listing of each zone with the TS usable items available in each
A list of each zone and the items foraged there
All found at EQ Traders Corner
Edit: Forgot to mention that the above lists allow you to click on the item in question and easily navigate to information regarding the recipes which use that item. Also the foraging tables don't include the items that are common to all zones (fruit, berries, vegetables, etc.). Quite a handy site that EQTC.
Edited, Tue Mar 30 08:12:40 2004 by VWDiesel
Cultural Armor for Dummies
A listing of each zone with the TS usable items available in each
A list of each zone and the items foraged there
All found at EQ Traders Corner
Edit: Forgot to mention that the above lists allow you to click on the item in question and easily navigate to information regarding the recipes which use that item. Also the foraging tables don't include the items that are common to all zones (fruit, berries, vegetables, etc.). Quite a handy site that EQTC.
Edited, Tue Mar 30 08:12:40 2004 by VWDiesel
Unfortunately, the foraged items list in NOT complete. Example: GFay does not list cinnamon sticks...
Hmmm, that's odd. I checked both lists and found cinnamon sticks no problem.
From the "TS usable items" list, click Greater Faydark and scroll to the bottom:
Foraged
Baking
cinnamon sticks
Brewing
morning dew, cinnamon sticks
Non Tradeskill
ripened heartfruit
From the "foraged items" list:
Greater Faydark(Original)
ripened heartfruit(lore), morning dew, cinnamon sticks
I'm not saying that these lists are always 100% complete. However, given the dedication the staff there show to the site, and the size of the EQTC community, I doubt that any incomplete list would stay that way for long. Someone in the community would send it in, and it would be added to the database quickly.
edited for clarification
Edited, Tue Mar 30 14:13:22 2004 by VWDiesel
From the "TS usable items" list, click Greater Faydark and scroll to the bottom:
Foraged
Baking
cinnamon sticks
Brewing
morning dew, cinnamon sticks
Non Tradeskill
ripened heartfruit
From the "foraged items" list:
Greater Faydark(Original)
ripened heartfruit(lore), morning dew, cinnamon sticks
I'm not saying that these lists are always 100% complete. However, given the dedication the staff there show to the site, and the size of the EQTC community, I doubt that any incomplete list would stay that way for long. Someone in the community would send it in, and it would be added to the database quickly.
edited for clarification
Edited, Tue Mar 30 14:13:22 2004 by VWDiesel
Now who was it that I had that 40 page argument with over the destruction of Everquest being caused by "cheat" sites and how terribly anti Role Playing it was to discuss things like weapon statistics?
Better keep your head down Leiany!
Better keep your head down Leiany!
I have a basic disagreement. I use Excel, not Word.
One day, about the same time Kao finishes his "comprehensive every possible everquest tech issue faq/encyclopedia", I might put all my print outs in a book, rather than haveing them ALL over the desk.
Before maps, I had velcro on the side of my computer, and opposing velcro swatches on the printed maps.
Now, let's see, I have a complete alchemy listing, showing all recipes, prices, reactions, level, and all the areas you can purchase obscure ingredients, prices of 10 shot potions, all in convenient spreadheet format. Same for fletching, less comprehensive for baking, cause there is too much I do not want, jewelry and so on.
Spell lists showing name, result, level, era, type, location, mana, target, for each type toon I have, all in convenient spreadsheet format. This because Caster's Realm and Allakhazam each had things in their format that I wanted, and neither did all.
Zone connection maps, level lists of most areas, character sheets for each toon, Comprehesive reasearch list (component order so I can instantly see if I need a rune or word, and which toon needs it), parsed bazaar logs, printed quests and so on.
I am clearly nutz.
One day, about the same time Kao finishes his "comprehensive every possible everquest tech issue faq/encyclopedia", I might put all my print outs in a book, rather than haveing them ALL over the desk.
Before maps, I had velcro on the side of my computer, and opposing velcro swatches on the printed maps.
Now, let's see, I have a complete alchemy listing, showing all recipes, prices, reactions, level, and all the areas you can purchase obscure ingredients, prices of 10 shot potions, all in convenient spreadheet format. Same for fletching, less comprehensive for baking, cause there is too much I do not want, jewelry and so on.
Spell lists showing name, result, level, era, type, location, mana, target, for each type toon I have, all in convenient spreadsheet format. This because Caster's Realm and Allakhazam each had things in their format that I wanted, and neither did all.
Zone connection maps, level lists of most areas, character sheets for each toon, Comprehesive reasearch list (component order so I can instantly see if I need a rune or word, and which toon needs it), parsed bazaar logs, printed quests and so on.
I am clearly nutz.
Iluien the Silent wrote:
Now who was it that I had that 40 page argument with over the destruction of Everquest being caused by "cheat" sites and how terribly anti Role Playing it was to discuss things like weapon statistics?
you better keep yourself completely under the stone you crawled up from, Iluien the Screamer!
I'll mark this down as poor comprehension from a non english speaker and let it slide.
But you do seem to be a very nasty sort of person Leiany.
Chill out girl!
But you do seem to be a very nasty sort of person Leiany.
Chill out girl!
Iluien the Silent wrote:
I'll mark this down as poor comprehension from a non english speaker and let it slide.
just stick to the part thats important:
Iluien whoshouldbesilenced wrote:
Now who was it that I had that 40 page argument with over the destruction of Everquest being caused by "cheat" sites and how terribly anti Role Playing it was to discuss things like weapon statistics?
Leiany wrote:
who was it, when was it and which was the threads title?
Edited, Thu Apr 1 07:05:24 2004 by Leiany
lluien wrote:
I'll mark this down as poor comprehension from a non english speaker and let it slide.
Thus demonstrating patience and maturity beyond belief..
9. ..... You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction)any Game characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.
don't forget to wipe your face after licking each others @sses....
Leiany
I don't know time zone you're in, but I think you'll find your day will be a whole lot better, it you take your *** home, crawl back into bed and get out the otherside... really trust me..
F39 ???? ...never in a zillion ... M13 ... possibly
I don't know time zone you're in, but I think you'll find your day will be a whole lot better, it you take your *** home, crawl back into bed and get out the otherside... really trust me..
F39 ???? ...never in a zillion ... M13 ... possibly
9. ..... You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction)any Game characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.
your lips are still covered with spackels of ****, dear...
Leiany, this is a side of you I've never seen before. :O
I'm shocked, come over here and let me help calm you down.
I'm shocked, come over here and let me help calm you down.
Wokingham, humm, small world
9. ..... You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction)any Game characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.
Quote:
Wokingham, humm, small world
LanceValiant wrote:
Leiany, this is a side of you I've never seen before. :O
I'm shocked, come over here and let me help calm you down.
I'm shocked, come over here and let me help calm you down.
Sorry no, still not even worked out what OOT stands for. /blush
Who else from near me then?
Where are you egnaro? (And with a name like that were you ever a rechtub?
Thought you were USA tarv? my mistake?
Who else from near me then?
Where are you egnaro? (And with a name like that were you ever a rechtub?
Thought you were USA tarv? my mistake?
Shsss OOT = Out of Topic (ie if you value your life, never ever stray there with an EQ question - you will die a painfull messy death !)
Ahh, grew up (yes i DID grow up) round there, well Camberley, Sandhurst.. Blackwater neck of the woods.. Moved south to Brighton area a while back though.
No never been a rechtub in me life... love a good happy steak though
Ahh, grew up (yes i DID grow up) round there, well Camberley, Sandhurst.. Blackwater neck of the woods.. Moved south to Brighton area a while back though.
No never been a rechtub in me life... love a good happy steak though
9. ..... You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction)any Game characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.
Quote:
Thought you were USA tarv? my mistake?
Yup presently serving Her majesty <and i don't mean Skeeter> the Queen at HMS Drake in Plymouth. i have the pleasure of serving on the mighty grey messenger of death HMS Sutherland for the next couple of weeks. [link=http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/1053.html[/link]
Look under surface ships, type 23.
Beauty ain't she
Edited, Thu Apr 1 14:49:29 2004 by tarv
Hmm, well Leiany my dear, the thread was on the old board which I don't seem to be able to access any more, so I can't even do a search I'm afraid.
What the title was is anyones guess, like this board, the old one rarely ever stayed on topic for more than a few posts, so it could orginally started on something quite unrelated. Although I seem to recall that it was about weapon specifications, or damage calculation or something similar.
Who the person was that I made the reference too? Well again, can't go back to check and as I implied I don't remember the name. It was just another of the dull-witted and irrational posters we see come to the board, thrash around for a short while and then slink off into oblivion.
Now with regard to the "comprehension" thing and "sticking to the part that's inportant".
What you have failed to understand is that my comment to you was of a friendly nature, while at the same time taking a subtle poke at the "role play *****" of Everquest.
Although I suppose I could be in error there, perhaps you are in fact a role play ****? I didn't get that impression.
Anyhoo, the gist of the old thread (that was mildy amusing to begin with but soon degenerated into a flurry of personal attack and abuse), was that I made some comments about weapon statistics and parsing logs and someone (name forgotten) began to attack me for being anti roleplay and ruining the game for people because "swords did not have damage and delay statistics stamped on them, blah blah". I responded that the poster was lacking in imagination, because it was quite plausible to think that weapon smiths of old would have labled and noted different weapon characteristerics as they crafted and experimented with different ideas. And so on it went.
So you see, the point I was making, rather than being any sort of attack on you, was simply noting that there is a body of people within the world of EQ who believe that spoiler/information sites, walkthroughs, revealing quest results etc, spoilt the game. Not all people who think this are "role play *****" many are just good decent players who would like to "play the game as it was originally intended" something that is perfectly reasonable and I even have some sympathy for this view. However I do find it fun to take a poke at extremists of any ilk, whether it be extreme points of view, or extreme hostility
Now Leiany my sweet, please do not take this as being in any way some sort of appology. That would be a severe example of poor comprehension.
Edited, Thu Apr 1 19:38:49 2004 by Iluien
Edited, Thu Apr 1 19:40:34 2004 by Iluien
What the title was is anyones guess, like this board, the old one rarely ever stayed on topic for more than a few posts, so it could orginally started on something quite unrelated. Although I seem to recall that it was about weapon specifications, or damage calculation or something similar.
Who the person was that I made the reference too? Well again, can't go back to check and as I implied I don't remember the name. It was just another of the dull-witted and irrational posters we see come to the board, thrash around for a short while and then slink off into oblivion.
Now with regard to the "comprehension" thing and "sticking to the part that's inportant".
What you have failed to understand is that my comment to you was of a friendly nature, while at the same time taking a subtle poke at the "role play *****" of Everquest.
Although I suppose I could be in error there, perhaps you are in fact a role play ****? I didn't get that impression.
Anyhoo, the gist of the old thread (that was mildy amusing to begin with but soon degenerated into a flurry of personal attack and abuse), was that I made some comments about weapon statistics and parsing logs and someone (name forgotten) began to attack me for being anti roleplay and ruining the game for people because "swords did not have damage and delay statistics stamped on them, blah blah". I responded that the poster was lacking in imagination, because it was quite plausible to think that weapon smiths of old would have labled and noted different weapon characteristerics as they crafted and experimented with different ideas. And so on it went.
So you see, the point I was making, rather than being any sort of attack on you, was simply noting that there is a body of people within the world of EQ who believe that spoiler/information sites, walkthroughs, revealing quest results etc, spoilt the game. Not all people who think this are "role play *****" many are just good decent players who would like to "play the game as it was originally intended" something that is perfectly reasonable and I even have some sympathy for this view. However I do find it fun to take a poke at extremists of any ilk, whether it be extreme points of view, or extreme hostility
Now Leiany my sweet, please do not take this as being in any way some sort of appology. That would be a severe example of poor comprehension.
Edited, Thu Apr 1 19:38:49 2004 by Iluien
Edited, Thu Apr 1 19:40:34 2004 by Iluien
I can understand Iluien thinking there was a comprehension problem.
The first sentence is indeed a question, albeit an unpleasantly phrased one implying as it does that the original poster is lying.
The second sentence is a definite personal insult aimed at Iluien and totally unwarranted.
Leiany is in a transition. Starting as an authority on rogues ("backstab is useless")and roleplay (on FV which she has now left) she is gradually descending the slippery slope into the dark side. Soon she will be twinking her alts and looking up exploit sites for tradeskill macros. It was only a few weeks back that she was scorning people who had multiple alts and claiming that she "with one character" would have seen far more of EQ than they. Now she has 5 alts on one server.
She is a bad case of Carly Simon Syndrome
Quote:
From Leiany:
who was it, when was it and which was the threads title?
you better keep yourself completely under the stone you crawled up from, Iluien the Screamer!
who was it, when was it and which was the threads title?
you better keep yourself completely under the stone you crawled up from, Iluien the Screamer!
The first sentence is indeed a question, albeit an unpleasantly phrased one implying as it does that the original poster is lying.
The second sentence is a definite personal insult aimed at Iluien and totally unwarranted.
Leiany is in a transition. Starting as an authority on rogues ("backstab is useless")and roleplay (on FV which she has now left) she is gradually descending the slippery slope into the dark side. Soon she will be twinking her alts and looking up exploit sites for tradeskill macros. It was only a few weeks back that she was scorning people who had multiple alts and claiming that she "with one character" would have seen far more of EQ than they. Now she has 5 alts on one server.
She is a bad case of Carly Simon Syndrome
Wherever I go - there I am.
She is already twinking!
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