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#1 Mar 26 2004 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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Ok, rant time (sort of)...

This has to do with where you 'park' your toon while you are doing the various non-moving duties associated with EQ. Things such as inventory, banking, talking to friends, buffing, etc.

Is there or can there be a convention as to what is good and bad parking etiquette?

Main concern is the ability of EVERYONE to get to and fro in a timely manner.

This is most noticable in heavily trafficed areas such as the Bazaar or PoK but general rules should apply, so I propose somthing like:

1. Never park in a doorway, archway, connecting tunnel or other limited width conveyance. Some toons are...LARGE...and do not always have shrink.

2. Do not park in a zone-in spot. Once you zone-in, MOVE. This includes Druid/Wizzy port spots (PoK spot being a prime example). Do not hold group conferences in these spots either. Again ONCE YOU ZONE IN, MOVE!

3. Do not set up a buff service DIRECTLY in path to zone, stone,
bank or other (see #1 above). Gee Whiz...my KEI service needs to do big biz, let's set up...right in front of the main bank door in PoK! WOOT? Would it really hurt to get to the side or back? People WILL find you... People seeking buffs should be just as mindful.

4. Be mindful when entering and exiting a building, you may have to back up to allow others to pass by.

I know that most people abide by this from common sense. You see the people in the bazaar and PoK hugging the wall to med or do other stationary buisness.

Anyone else just as annoyed with this (I know, it's minor) 'problem'? (Rant over) Please add any other 'parking etiquette' you may think germain...

-DoT

Edited, Fri Mar 26 10:49:18 2004 by Dothammer
#2 Mar 26 2004 at 10:52 AM Rating: Default
The Bank in Kaladim is a plague as anybody who has to duck to move up to the counter is blocking the entrance but otherwise I never got in such a confined situation that I couldn't do my stuff....
#3 Mar 26 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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I would add:

Get off your horse/drogmor to do your banking or trading.

There is absololutely no reason to take a mount into the bank and even less to stay on it and ride it out again.

In the unlikely event that you were so encumbered that you could not even walk to the teller you can still dismiss it immediately you are in banking range.
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#4 Mar 26 2004 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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Very good post.

It never fails that some large Troll and/or Ogre has sat down as soon as they zone into the bazaar. Not really a major pain in the bazaar but I am sure would be lots of fun when you have 100 gnolls chasing you and you have 21% hp left running like mad to the zone line. Then you find out that someone who is AFK and standing in your way.
#5 Mar 26 2004 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Ah yes! Excellent one.
5. Get off your mount when entering buildings. Ok you need to pull up to the drive through cause you got 10Kpp in copper...Drop the mount when you can.

-DoT
#6 Mar 26 2004 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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And WHY IS IT, that everybody has to congregate in the Bazaar in the passage way to Nexus. On Fennon ro, you zone in, come to the first corner, and there are 20 toons standing in the hallway there between you and the first bank.

Thank God I am a halfling and can run between their feet hehe.

And agreed about the morons, some depressingly high level, that squat in the PoK Druid zone in spot. You would think that if you were in the game that long, you would have been inconvenienced by enough others, that you would think, wow it is kinda dumb to do this, maybe i will just take a few steps, and THEN squat.

Nah, not a chance, it's me me me, all me.

Karlowin Fennon Rofl
#7 Mar 26 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Two more banks in PoK would be a good idea.

I understand that people set up buffing stations by the Nexus Stone and Bank because people know those locations, but please move out of the path most people walk.

Most people do this and we all appreciate it.
#8 Mar 26 2004 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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yanari wrote:
Two more banks in PoK would be a good idea


If people used them... my betting is they would still use the main bank regardless.

Same in the bazaar, have you noticed how everynody uses the one near the nexus zone in - move along a bit to the Shadowhaven bank - its always empty :)


Creatures of habit, most people.


Edit: okay so thats offensive to someone?, sheesh - take more water with it why don't you

Edited, Fri Mar 26 15:33:05 2004 by egnaro
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#9 Mar 26 2004 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
Now i agree with post almost 100%. But when casting a MGB as is commonly done in front of the bank in PoK one should be a little considerate of recieving a free and usually very usefull buff and be pacient.
#10 Mar 26 2004 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Just an FYI, there is a second bank in PoK.
#11 Mar 26 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
If you're on a horse and encumbered out of your gourd and are either worried about:
A) Being able to get into the bank
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B) Blocking traffic with your horse
Then I'd say to just zone into shadeweaver's thicket and head across the path. There's an outdoor bank there that I've NEVER seen anybody at and it's only about a 15 second run/ride from the POK book.
*Provided you have luclin of course*
#12 Mar 26 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, the second bank in PoK can be a bit of a log jam in and of itself. You must go in through a door and around a staircase to get to one halfling NPC banker. Getting in and out is a bit problematic if you add a couple dozen PCs to that area. PoK really needs something like FV, with the bankers facing the outside as well as inside. Or at least a back door to the main bank. (I wasn't kidding, sometimes they need a drive through lane!)

For those who don't know, there is one banker in a building on the side and facing evil-stone section of PoK, up on the same level as the main bank. It is close to the building with forges and the smith merchants.

I tend to use the bank near Shadowhaven entrance in the Bazaar. If I have one of my short toons, I'll even go inside.
#13 Mar 26 2004 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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In reply to as why people stop in the hallway from nexus to bazaar on the bazaar side, I believe it has a lot to do with the lag issues that people have traditionally had there. Even with the improvements and people reporting that lag is better there, like was said before... creatures of habit. Zone in, move to the wall and look at it to drop the lag. Find what you want, scootch over to the nearest bank and glide around looking at the floor or in overhead view to find your new toy. Lag has improved drastically for me since the patch in the bazaar, but I still walk around looking at the floor... *shrug*
#14 Mar 26 2004 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
Yay! This is a great thread. How hard is it to walk a few more steps to park your toon's butt out of the way? And the mounted peeps in the bank...could not be more accurate...get off and walk if you consider yourself a courteous player.

One more are the people who book in and decide to run to get food or something...but leave their toon right where it books in. Makes a huge pile up. When you book in you end up on their shoulders or inside of them...and if they have a mount it is worse...takes a lot of turning and jumping jump/crouching to get out sometimes. When you book in, wait until you get in and walk a few steps out of the way...then go get your McNuggets! :-)

#15 Mar 29 2004 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey, I guess I wasn't alone...Here's a recap of mostly don'ts:

EQ PC Parking Etiquette:

1. Never park in a doorway, archway, connecting tunnel or other narrow conveyance.

2. Do not park in a 'zone-in' spot. Includes Wizard/Druid/Nexus landing areas. ONCE YOU ZONE IN...MOVE!

3. Do not set up a buff station, group conference or other mass gathering DIRECTLY in the path of bank, building entrances, PoK stone, or other thoroughfare including 'zone-in' spots.

4. When traversing through tight spaces, move to allow others to pass.

5. Dismount (drog/horse) before entering a bank, building or other confined area where others may be congregated.

Thanks to all.

I was thinking, we should have a shorthand way of telling people they are blocking the road, like 'MUP' in LDoN for 'Move up please'. Send em a nice tell first...

You have just gotten better at BLOCK! (197)...

YAB (You are blocking)
YABE (You are blocking Entrance/Exit)
YABS (You are blocking stone)
GOOTR! (Get out of the road!)
MYA? (Move your...)
MYAP? (...Please?)
PMYFA? (I know what you are thinking, keep it g-rated...f=fat)



#16 Mar 29 2004 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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Cant agree with this post more! Especially about moveing out of hte PoK Druis zone in spot.Had an occassion about a mounth ago where a guy was on his lizard and AFK at the point. Finally petitioned a GM to move him. When he came back he was shouting profanities about being petitioned and that he could leave his toon wherever he wanted - he waas paying and therefore it was his right. Seemed to me that he should be palying FPS instead of MMP. Oh well - takes all kinds, I guess.
#17 Mar 29 2004 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Great Thread, never ceases to amaze me that people will be AFK while sitting in the bank at Felwithe or elsewhere.

I remember onetime we had buffed up and were about to head into the Crypt entrance for MM LDON and an AFK ogre was sitting on the steps blocking the way! We sent tells and OOC but no response - we finally found we could get pass by jumping (over) him, but I know all 6 of us added him to our ignore list.

Common sense and courtsey should be a required skill for EQ.
#18 Mar 30 2004 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Got to thinking, perhaps they should have a (small) line of stalls in one or two locations in PoK for people to set up buffing stations (similar to PC selling area in The Bazaar).
Maybe have a NPC components seller nearby...nah too easy...
#19 Mar 30 2004 at 7:14 PM Rating: Good
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Great to put all this in words, should be common sense, but I know some people do it on purpose.

I love the buff station idea for pok, nothing like running to the back of the bank for virtue, then hitting the second bank for something, heading to the GD or POT stone for something else.

Now next question is a different subject, but it was brought up and I didn't know this. You can still move on a horse or drog when you are way overweight? Does the price of the horse or drog determine how much overweight you can be, or is there a limit?
#20 Mar 31 2004 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Off the thread but...

Yes, you can carry a lot more when mounted.

Not sure if weight bearing is a factor but speed/size/color is a factor in the price of drogs/horses.

Unfortunately I do not have first-hand knowledge since I have 8 mouths (characters) to clothe and feed and not much extra money for a mount yet. I may start a new thread about mounts soon.


#21 Mar 31 2004 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
Yes, having a mount guarantees that you will never be immobile from encumberance. You still get encumbered and will begin to slow down as you become REALLY encumbered, but just like SOW, as long as you got it you can at least move while so encumbered .....
#22 Mar 31 2004 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
Slight tangent (sorry):

Anyone remember when people used to block access to popular banks or zonelines and change *admission* to pass? I think this behavior has gone the way of the dodo bird on my server but I'm curious if it persists on others?

I would imagine it is sort of against the rules (?)

#23 Mar 31 2004 at 6:45 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks for my off-topic answers (not that I can afford either a horse or a drog in the near future). But I guess the weight thing escaped me.

Charging to let someone get by. That is pure evil, but it may be worse even that the person now is just not moving, the other way at least you can get by.
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