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#1 Mar 26 2004 at 8:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Morning Everyone,

Just started a troll warrior and wanted to know if SOW potions work longer for different races. I bought a 10 dose from the bazzar, quaffed a dose, and proceeded to run from the bazaar to Grobb to kill froggies.

I barely made it there and the SOW buff started to flicker. Maybe 5 minutes past from the start to the end. I thought maybe there was a problem and quaffed another swig. This one was much shorter then the 36 minutes it states. Wierd.

Any comments on this? Does it matter who I buy the potion from? Are some extended like KEI or other spells?

Poopp
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disclaimer: I did have about 3 glasses of wine last night but the time did seem a lot shorter then usual.
#2 Mar 26 2004 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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The duration depends on the level of the drinker. As does the movement increase.
#3 Mar 26 2004 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Just slightly bemused.

You went to Grobb (aka Gukta) to kill "froggies". This at level 3?

Which particular "froggies" were you killing?
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#4 Mar 26 2004 at 8:37 AM Rating: Default
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Just started a troll warrior ....... I bought a 10 dose (SOW potion ed.)from the bazzar....
A third lvl Troll warrior who can buy a 10 dose SOW potion can probably kill "froggies" also - and is by far the most f*cking twink I heard of since I started EQ...
#5 Mar 26 2004 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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A third lvl Troll warrior who can buy a 10 dose SOW potion can probably kill "froggies" also - and is by far the most f*cking twink I heard of since I started EQ...


Hehe, I know of people who twinked their level ones with gear running into 100s of kpp.
#6 Mar 26 2004 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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Then you have led a very sheltered existence, Leiany.

Try a Level 1 cleric with 250 WIS and FT12 (before they nerfed it) not to mention a fast white horse and no idea what to do with the other 800k. They were actually a very good cleric too.

10 dose BoW costs around 75pp. You can kill spiderlings at level 3 and easily make 75pp. However I am inclined to agree that it is unlikely that you would do so. Or that having done it you would waste one running across PoK.

The only "froggies" are either the Upper Guk guards who are maybe level 8 but only 2 of them. Actual PC frogloks - but this was not on a PvP server - or the Gukta guards who are seriously tough and no amount of twinking would cope with them. There are assorted undead frogloks but they are mostly unpleasant casters that would chew up a level 3.

It is an unlikely choice of PL location.
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#7 Mar 26 2004 at 8:55 AM Rating: Default
With only playing for 5 months I am sure I haven't seen the worst yet *lol*
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Thanks for the answer regarding the level and duration of spells/sow potions terynolds! You have answered my question.

As far as the other two posts....

/sigh

Must correct myself when I stated Grobb - I meant the newbie area outside of Grobb and the guards just outside of the entrance to Upper Guk. They may be level 4 at most. I said Grobb because of the stone I took. My apologies.

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A third lvl Troll warrior who can buy a 10 dose SOW potion can probably kill "froggies" also - and is by far the most f*cking twink I heard of since I started EQ...
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The second comment from Leiany really doesn't deserve a response but I am slightly hung over and therefore in a pissy mood. I will explain my "twinked" character as follows:

1.) 10 dose blood of the wolf potion - 80 plat
2.) some decent armor from the bazaar - 200 plat
3.) a nice weapon borrowed from my 34 pally - free
4.) Temperance buff from a friend - 15 plat
5.) Running around killing froggies OUTSIDE of Grobb - Priceless.

I don't have an unlimited bank account. My highest toon is level 34. I was really just playing around with a character/race I have not played.

Am I guilty of Twinking? Yes (though I am sure worse has been done)

Am I a purist when it comes to EQ? No - it's a game that I enjoy playing and experimenting with because now I can. Six months ago when I started playing eq I could not.

Maybe I am roleplaying? Perhaps my Troll inherited some money, armor and weapons from his dead father? Maybe I got lucky buying one token in Shadowhaven and winning some prizes?

Bah - enough of my rambling. I am done. My apologies to those who read this mundane post and wasted valuable bandwidth downloading the thread.

Poopp
Level 3 Troll Warrior
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#9 Mar 26 2004 at 8:58 AM Rating: Good
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I heard many people complaining after the last patch that SoW potions were not lasting as long as before. The duration was/is supposed to be level dependent but I suspect that something has changed with implementation of level-based spell duration code.

I didn't time my durations, but they also seemed shorter.
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#10 Mar 26 2004 at 9:08 AM Rating: Default
So you are telling me you only spent 300p on your troll? what a bullsh!t
bubspeed wrote:
1.) 10 dose blood of the wolf potion - 80 plat
2.) some decent armor from the bazaar - 200 plat

the difference between 1. and 2. is that
2. is spent once
and
1. needs to be repaid every 1-3 gaming hours (depending on your play style)so this troll is a moneysink to your shared bank account that makes any tradeskill look like an investement fund *lol*

This toon has not spent about 300 plat and is done yet but needs to be fed with more plat per day than he can make himself.

Thats why they are called twinks - because they need someone else who pays their expenses ;-)

Edited, Fri Mar 26 09:09:30 2004 by Leiany
#11 Mar 26 2004 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
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No worries, bubspeed.

I was just interested in which "froggies it was. Leiany is the one on a holy crusade against twinking.

I'm sure she'd love to be accused of being twinked when she had bought or tradeskilled nice gear for herself by her own efforts. However the self-righteous have a blind spot with mirrors.
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#12 Mar 26 2004 at 9:14 AM Rating: Good
I am in constant use of sow potions and I haven't noticed any drop-off at level 34. I haven't really been paying a WHOLE lot of attention to it though, but I'm sure it's right in the range it's supposed to be at. I'd have to agree that this is probably a level dependent thing as well.
Actually while we're here, I can't seem to get the invis from cloudy potions to stick very long at ALL, is this a level dependent thing as well?
#13 Mar 26 2004 at 9:24 AM Rating: Default
@cobra:
actually I am sitting on 8k at the moment and have no idea what to buy for it except for LDoN-armor-recipe components. Paying 2000 damn plat for some item thats just 30% better than the LDoN gear I made myself for 100 seems so ineffective to me :(

But of course - once my only plate-carrying toon is completely clad in Gothic Steel I will have to start buying stuff for 5k+ to upgrade significantly...
#14 Mar 26 2004 at 9:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, invis is just unreliable unless you have a fixed-duration spell or ability.

When I cast invis on people it lasts anywhere from 10 seconds to 10 minutes, no way to know.
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Regular forms of invis (Invisibility, Camo, etc) are all variable in duration. Trying to invis a full group is always fun since, by the time you've hit the last guy and are casting on yourself, someone is saying "Invis fading". The upgraded spells (Improved Invis, et al.) are a firm length. I know phase spider blood is a 10min improved invis potion, but I don't know if there's a shaman version.

Samira snuck in on me, there...

Edited, Fri Mar 26 09:32:08 2004 by Jophiel
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#16 Mar 26 2004 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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Item prices are a case of diminishing returns. A 100pp item might have twice the stats of a 50pp item, but a 100Kpp item will only have a 20% or 30% increase in stats over a 50Kpp item. There are exceptions here and there, but it is a generally true. The same is true in real life. A $20K stereo speaker, for example, will only be a little better than a $10K one.
#17 Mar 26 2004 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
Ok, thanks for the help with the invis and sorry to borrow your thread bubspeed.
#18 Mar 26 2004 at 10:13 AM Rating: Good
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You tell 'em bub...

I think more people should get out and try different class/race combos, and if twinking it up helps you stay alive long enough to learn somtheing, all the better. The more experience you get with other class/race combos the better to understand why the cleric is OOM or the monk needs auto-split turned off. You spend countless hours playing one toon, understanding one veiwpoint. It is good to get the bigger picture once in a while, and if 'twinking it up' helps, so what?.
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#19 Mar 26 2004 at 10:20 AM Rating: Default
you got a point there of course...

...its just that you suppose the twinking will stop once the new toon can survive on its own - but it won't ;-)
#20 Mar 26 2004 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Twinking is completely irrelevant. The only thing important is "Do you have fun". If yes, then its ok. If not, then don't do it.
#21 Mar 26 2004 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Twinking is an addiction. It starts with a free sample from someone. It might be a bracer or a little bit better sword, but it never ends there. You get sucked in. Before you know it you're doing ornate in a bus station stall. It's not pretty.
#22 Mar 26 2004 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Twinking is an addiction. It starts with a free sample from someone. It might be a bracer or a little bit better sword, but it never ends there. You get sucked in. Before you know it you're doing ornate in a bus station stall. It's not pretty.


LMAO i havet seen anything funnier than that in a long time
my wife thought i was nuts i was laughing so hard
#23 Mar 26 2004 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
Twinking serves a very real and important purpose. Getting your characters through the grind of the crappy low levels quickly and painlessly so that you can start enjoying the higher end game.

I twink all of my characters to high hell and back because I can. I've got enough plat to build a house out of, so I can let it sit in my bank on my monk, or I can actually use it to help along lower characters. I'll use it every time. And I'll be there with my level 20 cleric shrugging off hits and laughing over the corpse of your level 22 warrior every time I do Leiany. :p
#24 Mar 26 2004 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmm first it is SoW potions...
then it is MQing velious armor....

Kind of like smoking pot leading to heroin?

But, but, really, I'm only a recreational twinker!....
I can stop anytime! now where'd I put that Lambent stone...
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I can stop twinking anytime I want to!!
#26 Mar 26 2004 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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And the problem with twinking is...? We pay money to play this game and if he wants to spend money on a SoW potion then let him. I don't see how that's anyone elses business. (Leiany) As for the SoW duration I had a potion only last me a few minutes when I was in BB the other night. /shrug
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