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#1 Mar 23 2004 at 9:00 PM Rating: Default
1.) My hair has officially gone crazy. At night it's brown, in Lguk it's green, and in Sol A it's blonde.


2.) The awful fog. Why did they add this? You can't see 1 foot infront of you in any dungeons, and you can barely see outside. This also detracts from dungeon atmosphere, theres no more red glo in SolA

3.) My UI is seriously screwed up. My buff box has a bunch of black boxes in it that get in the way.


Anyone else having major problems? So far this patch has been really shakey, like most patches. I expect they'll be a crap load of downtimes in the next week.

Edited, Tue Mar 23 21:03:14 2004 by TunareDefender
#2 Mar 23 2004 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
that like as not is your UI's fault, not the game's fault. fix your ui, or if you are using one someone else made, download the newest version of it.
#3 Mar 23 2004 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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As a general rule of thumb. Any time there is any kind of graphics or UI related patch, you should revert to the default UI first and verify that everything works correctly. Then work on loading a custom one. Everytime one of those patches comes out, the UI creator has to make a change to his skins (usually). You may as well save yourself some trouble and just wait until that's done.


Just my opinion.
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#4 Mar 23 2004 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
his UI issues true are a results of changes to the UI files with this patch, but the fog issues, hair issues and what not are a results of the new patch.

been reading several forums and all of them have a thread like this one. some ppl are getting megga system lag from the new patch, some issues like this guy, some with the rain, others with the fog, etc... all steming from the graphics adjustment of this patch.

none of witch have anything to do with your custome UI.

for resulving the UI issue type /load defaultskin 1 it might be /load defaultskin1 forget if there is a space there or not.

the 1 will tell the game to leave your windows were they are on the screen. in other words not to move them to the default locations. that should temporarily give you access to your buff window with icons again until a fix for your UI is out.
#5 Mar 23 2004 at 11:10 PM Rating: Good
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I can actually move in the bazaar, my system plays like it was designed too. Textures look great, and my gamma is much more controllable.

Oh wait I guess these really dont count as complaints huh...
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#6 Mar 23 2004 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I had same prob with everything, turn Gamma and Far clip plane up, fices eveything.
#7 Mar 24 2004 at 2:29 AM Rating: Good
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I kind of like the changing hairstyle/colors. Adds a bit of mystery to the game...

"Hmmm will cloverz be a blond or brunette when she zones in next? Long hair or spikes?"Smiley: smile

Edited, Wed Mar 24 02:31:00 2004 by danreynolds
#8 Mar 24 2004 at 3:08 AM Rating: Default
for some reason at maximum far clip (which my PC is easily able to process) the background outdoors (escept for woods)turns white - like there was a blazing sun shining from behind me.

???
#9 Mar 24 2004 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
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Take a trip to Maiden's Eye next time you log on and you'll see that blazing sun up close and personal. I think SOE might be trying to simulate a supernova there.Smiley: smile
#10 Mar 24 2004 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
i was only able to get on for about ten minutes before i went to work and probably wont get much time until friday when i get a week off

but

what i did see looked great the night sky was cool and i finally have a targeting ring which for some reason i never did before ( i had dx9 ever since it came out so it is something from the patch that fixed it)

my only problem was that when i was trying to fight some mobs with my level 4 shaman they would be running towards me they would seem to warp away then back again as they were going i could never tell how far away they really were until they started hitting me

hopefull this and at least a few of the other probs are fixed by this weekend as i plan to spend a good amount of time trying to level my 42 druid
#11 Mar 24 2004 at 6:46 AM Rating: Decent
Ya, my only problem was in LDoN last night. It was difficult to target corpses to loot em' ( I had to click on just their feet most of the time) and I too had a problem with mobs seeming to warp right into the foray. Sometimes out of nowhere!


Anyhow I dig the new skies but when it rains at night, you can see the stars, go figure!
#12 Mar 24 2004 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm a Halfling and I think my height has been reduced to a "Quarterling." My viewpoint has been changed closer to the ground and it makes me dizzy when I play lol...I've noticed that Gnomes and Halflings are now the same height, and tell me...Where's the Justice in that????????? Smiley: disappointed
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#13 Mar 24 2004 at 7:37 AM Rating: Decent
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trying using the command

/target a to target the corpse ( i believe it works because the corpse usually starts with
a whatever whatever corpse)

then when targeted type /loot

should work i had problem a couple of times with corpse in wall someone told me this and havent had a problem since

Edited, Wed Mar 24 07:39:53 2004 by mkbailey
#14 Mar 24 2004 at 8:21 AM Rating: Good
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Fog and white is all I can see. I have adjusted the Gamma and the Far Clip Plane, but the fog is still there. I'm in PoK and I can see the torches on the building, but nothing else. HELP!
#15 Mar 24 2004 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
Well, I logged in and saw the beautiful skies, but when I looked down...there was no ground. I zoned into PoK and several of the buildings were gone. I ran to the side of where the library use to be..I would stop where the walls should be but still couldn't see them. The problem I had with lag in this zone is back but that is probably due to the crowds (200 people in zone)

I installed DX9 back when it first came out. Went to website to update my video drivers (Geforce4 MX440) and still no good. Adjusting the farclip plane and the gamma did not help the situation any.
#16 Mar 24 2004 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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mkbailey wrote:

trying using the command

/target a to target the corpse ( i believe it works because the corpse usually starts with
a whatever whatever corpse)

then when targeted type /loot

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But, WHY?? Why do you settle for this? Why can't you target a corpse that is CLEARLY visible right in front of you without having to resort to typing (or making a macro)?

This is the issue - targetting in EQ is totally shot. Not just corpse targetting, but targetting of anything. The ONLY way to be able to target a particular mob in Everquest since the targetting changes, is to do what you say (type the name in). You have to type the mob or PC name in, and be within range of the /target command (fairly small area). Clicking no longer functions in more than 20% of the cases.

So, if you want an enchanter to mez 3 or 4 mobs, you need ot learn to give them time to typo each name out, run up near it, and then get the target, and then cast teh spell.

On test, we have had more ldon wipes from targeting issues than anything else. No one tells us when the system is "done". It worked like total crap for 6 weeks now, then it went live.

Sunday morning we went into LDoN. 3 mobs at the entrance room, a fairly large room. Do you think I could target any ONE of them? No, unless I went up into agro range. No matter where I stood - even out ahead of the group, the ONLY target I could obtain by clicking was a random (perhaps closest) group member, even though they were behind me and totally out of graphics range. Click anywhere, and I see I get a group member targetted and see the very outside edge of their target ring. But, 0% chance of targetting a mob. And, those mobs were not all together - they were at left, center, and right sides of a large room. Yet, targeting worked not at all.

Or, Western Wastes. Tried to click on someone in the raid to cast a buff on them. Think I could? Nope. Were they the ONLY person in sight on my screen at the time? Yes. The ONLY target I could get is the friggin dragon who wasn't even within my screen area, and not nearby (not agro range for a kos dragon).

Take a CLOSE look at the new targeting system, and don't take any crap from SOE that this is acceptable targeting, or that we should buy and expansion with real money to be able to spend 200 AA points on fixing this piece of crap.

Don't accept TYPING a mob/PC/corpse/crate to target it as acceptable, unless you are also willing to accept the speed that happens when you are waiting for a heal in battle.

Hopefully they only put the graphics system live, and didn't go live with targeting. We live with it on test, but it has no place at all in production if this is how it is meant to work.

Edited, Wed Mar 24 10:01:03 2004 by Trellium
#17 Mar 24 2004 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Well I wish my update went as well as everyone elses. And let me say first that I never whine about new patches or when it is down. I'm all for improvement but this one really nailed me. I just bought my new computer in July 2003 so I cannot believe it is out of date. But after updating the patch I couldn't get in "No 3d device found" So I went to SOE online support HAHAHAHAH! I waited bout 40 mins to have some jack@ss tell me it was my video card and that SOE doesn't support my card. I know nothing bout computers I'm a chemist for Pete's sake. Anyhow so I read through all the forums and someone suggested removing your video card and rebooting. I did this, and go in, then rebooted again and couldn't get back in. So I removed my card again and went to the website and updated it. Rebooted again and got in (this all took about 5 hours btw). Now everything is fuzzy even my spell book.....Guess I need a new video card, but had I know this would happen I never would have invested in the game, in the expansions, and in the montly fee. Everything was fine until this patch, never had any trouble. I know I am not the only one either. Someone in another forum said we were warned???? I knew nothing about it, not all of us are computer geniuses some just like to play EQ. I do so hope this is fixed soon, who knows when I can afford a new card :( Some of us do work for a living and have family's to support, if only I owned stock is SOE...
K enough of my rant. Thanks for listening :)

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#18 Mar 24 2004 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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I noticed that run3 doesn’t seem to be as fast as it was before the patch. Seems that my horse is slower as well.

Maybe they made run3 slower so you had to buy the new run speed GoD AA's??

As others here have noted I've also noticed the fog, try going in the water once...Yuck!

I'm sure they'll patch it and fix these issues soon. Smiley: lol

Edited, Wed Mar 24 10:26:36 2004 by AegisfangBattlehammer
#19 Mar 24 2004 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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mkbailey wrote:

trying using the command

/target a to target the corpse ( i believe it works because the corpse usually starts with
a whatever whatever corpse)

then when targeted type /loot

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trellium wrote
But, WHY?? Why do you settle for this? Why can't you target a corpse that is CLEARLY visible right in front of you without having to resort to typing (or making a macro)?


jeez try to give someone help and get jumped on


first off i agree that it need to be fixed but when you are in game are you gonna log off without looting just to tell sony you cant loot and they need to fix it or are you gonna wanna get the loot you just earned?

so i tried to give the guy some help sorry if i offended you

yes it sucks they have problems but for the ver little amount we pay for it we definately get our moneys wort

ok math time

first off it is 12.95 a month (it still is right lol)

so ill say 12 for the sake of ease

so for 30 days a month you pay $12 thats a quarter a day so even if you only play an average of 1 hr a day you are getting an hours worth of entertainment for a quarter yet you expect it to be perfect all the time?

ok now the game was 30 or so and so is each expansion
there is 365 days in a year but well use 300 once again for sake of ease

so $30 for 300 days of play is 10 cents a day per game and expansion ( is there 7 now?) well say 10 for furure ones

so that is $1 a day for the games for 1 year every year you play the average goes down

once again an average of an hour a day ad that witth the other you get 1.25 an hour and for every hour over one the average costs go down

ok i just got off work so if any of that is screwy or mispelled i am sorry but you get the jist of what i am saying

so in conclusion (lol) ill say what i say to my mother in law who swears she i sbeing cheated at bingo and that the callers are giving the wins to their friends

if you really think you are being cheated dont play
#20 Mar 24 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Default
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[quote]ok math time

first off it is 12.95 a month (it still is right lol)

so ill say 12 for the sake of ease

so for 30 days a month you pay $12 thats a quarter a day so even if you only play an average of 1 hr a day you are getting an hours worth of entertainment for a quarter yet you expect it to be perfect all the time?

ok now the game was 30 or so and so is each expansion
there is 365 days in a year but well use 300 once again for sake of ease

so $30 for 300 days of play is 10 cents a day per game and expansion ( is there 7 now?) well say 10 for furure ones

so that is $1 a day for the games for 1 year every year you play the average goes down

once again an average of an hour a day ad that witth the other you get 1.25 an hour and for every hour over one the average costs go down

ok i just got off work so if any of that is screwy or mispelled i am sorry but you get the jist of what i am saying

so in conclusion (lol) ill say what i say to my mother in law who swears she i sbeing cheated at bingo and that the callers are giving the wins to their friends

if you really think you are being cheated dont play


now multiply that by 400,000 to 500,000 thousand players around the world.

SoE makes more then enough flipping money off this game in 30 days to provide hella better CS, TS, and QA.
#21 Mar 24 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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mkbailey,

You just blew my mind!
#22 Mar 24 2004 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I have 2 computers that I play my 2 EQ accounts on, my newer one (Dell bought this summer) downloaded the patch np and off I went. Loved the night sky and did not have much problem with seeing in the fog with my dwf (only was in BB, DC, and Unrest).

I loaded the older (about 1 year) one later and found it had 8x instead of 9x, but followed the link for upgrade and downloaded 9x np and went on to play fine. I did notice that the screen seemed darker overall with the elf I was playing at night, but effects seemed more realistic and I liked the sun. I did not go on any LDONs.

With regard to targeting, I did not notice any problems last night but I have had occasional problems targeting corpses in LDON (especially shadows) over the past couple of months.

Just wanted to note that this patch seems to be working fine on my computer, and no where near the disaster when POP came out when I couldnt even log in for a week without crashing to desktop.

Edit Note - Played a MM LDON in the caverns last night and while I could see fog impacting somewhat by lowering the distance you can see, I did not have any other real problems mentioned such as targeting mobs for mezs than normal. The ML also did not have any problems looting, though he did fall through a wall and end up back at entrance.

Overall, can't say that I am having the problems that others are mentioning.

Edited, Thu Mar 25 11:01:10 2004 by rickea
#23 Mar 24 2004 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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i finally have a targeting ring which for some reason i never did before
A guildmate is thrilled that hers finally work too.

Regarding the atmospheric anomolies, fog, tint, etc. just try to ignore it for now as long as it's not interfering with how the game is running. I assume it's merely an extension of the same thing that they mentioned in the update news. SOE wanted to just get the new graphics engine up and running and would correct the various graphic issues later. Hold tight, they are aware of these issues.

Those of you who are having "missing" graphics, I saw an example of this on my husband's computer last night. My sympathies. If I were more computer savvy I'd make some helpful suggestions but I usually just try to make sure I've updated my drivers, run all the file checks and patches and hope for the best.

Targetting has been buggy, from what I've been hearing. Didn't they just say in one of the most recent patches that they improved targetting? (sigh)

Edited, Wed Mar 24 10:54:23 2004 by Yanari
#24 Mar 24 2004 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
I absolutely love the patch. Much smoother.. i can walk around in bazaar with full clip and it is slow but not slide show slow. Dynamic lighting is dramatically improved, plate armor is a bit reflective, and they totally changed female froglok armor and my frog colors look much more blue. Animations overall look slower.. not sure why on that but maybe it was because everyone looked like a spaz when hasted.

One funny thing is that you have no animation at all on a horse, I was fighting on my holy steed and had no swing animation at all.

#25 Mar 24 2004 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Most of the interface worked GREAT for me. Except when I was underwater. About drowned last night trying to find the tunnel to Siren's Grotto while on a CR in ToV.

White fog and I couldn't see 5 feet in front of me. Clip plane and gamma settings don't seem to matter.
#26 Mar 24 2004 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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Guvwenea wrote:
I just bought my new computer in July 2003 so I cannot believe it is out of date.


Actually, if you didn't buy a top of the line model in July 2003, then your computer probably is outdated by now. Even if you had bought one of the best computers out there a year ago, it would be at best a middle of the pack device now.

Guvwenea wrote:
I know nothing bout computers I'm a chemist for Pete's sake.


I would suggest you head to the library, grab a book about computer basics and start reading. I'm not trying to flame you, but computers are a vital part of our lives today. If you don't know anything about them you're operating at a disadvantage.

Guvwenea wrote:
So I removed my card again and went to the website and updated it. Rebooted again and got in (this all took about 5 hours btw).


If you had been reading the patch updates when you logged in over the last several months, you would have known that you needed to update your video drivers and directx as of this patch. That alone would have saved you almost all of those 5 hours.

Guvwenea wrote:
but had I know this would happen I never would have invested in the game, in the expansions, and in the montly fee. Everything was fine until this patch, never had any trouble. I know I am not the only one either. Someone in another forum said we were warned???? I knew nothing about it, not all of us are computer geniuses some just like to play EQ. I do so hope this is fixed soon, who knows when I can afford a new card :( Some of us do work for a living and have family's to support


We were warned, several times, and you didn't need to be a computer genius to see the warning. All you had to do was read the patch information that pops up each time there's a new patch in the game. And that should be done by everyone, everytime they patch. As far as the video card goes, you could probably find one that will work fine for anywhere from 50-75 dollars, depending on what sales are going on at your local computer stores.

I'm sorry you feel so cheated, and I can only say that computers are such a new science(compared to say your choosen field, chemistry), that major advances are going to happen in a very short amount of time. Expecting these gaming companies to not take advantage of new technology just doesn't make sense(How many people still do mouth pipetting after all?), and you've got to realize that if you want to take advantage of them you're going to have to make at least some investment in updating your computer every now and then.

Again, reading a book about computer basics and educating yourself on them a bit will go a long way towards helping you understand all this. You don't have to try and become a computer genius, but a little knowledge can go a long way.Smiley: smile
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