level 45Follow

Yes, AA's start at lvl 51. Once you hit lvl 51, experience slows down a LOT! As far as AA exp is concerned, I believe AA exp is 3 times faster than regular exp at lvl 51(meaning with the effort it take to get from the start of 51 to 52, you could earn 3 AA points if you were doing AA instead.

I get a little confused myself about the planes and lvl 45. I'm PRETTY sure you need to be level 46 to get into PoT though. I think the old HATE and FEAR were 45 lvl 45 to enter. Either way, I think it's best to get a safety LEVEL before entering the planes. I didn't start hitting the planes till 51 and I'm glad I did, but that's just me. I recommend waiting till at least 47. Planes mobs are nasty and you'll get great exp, but you won't really be able to add as much to a group till you're 51+. Hard to get a group the lower level you are in the planes. That's just been my experience. If you know people, should be easier.

You can hear some horror stories about someone freshly turning 46 and wanting to check out the planes, then getting killed, losing the level and not being able to go back in to get the corpse. Not sure even a cleric rez would allow you back because you aren't level enough to enter the zone till AFTER you are rez'd..... You might be blocked, but I'm not certain about that either.

Kei and the uber buffs, same, not sure if it's 45 or 46. When I was 45 KEI was still sticking to lvl 1 newbies.

Edited, Sat Mar 20 23:32:38 2004 by KerikDaven

Nice information!
It inspired another question or two though (which is always a good sign, LoL)
Regarding the dying and being locked out of a plane... isn't there a corpse graveyard now? I remember an update on it from somewhere but I don't remember the details.
Next... Dulak, are the "a shady treasure sorter" and "a storage worker" that drop coins for my "Healing waters" spell on the easy side or the hard side?
I read that they are in Warehouses, but in regards to the Boats being easy to hard where do the warehouses fall?
Thanks again...

The general corpse graveyard is still billed as "on its way" by SOE so you will be locked out of the planes if you de-level and die, until you re-level. That said you'll be safe enough to take a walk around PoT - and don't forget to take a picnic, its got some great views.

Tarv, when they say AA exp is based on lvl 51 exp, they don't mean you gain AA exp at the same rate as you gain NORMAL exp at lvl 51. If that were the case, if you set the AA exp to 50%, you'd gain a level and an AA at the same rate at lvl 51. AA exerience at all levels is the same as if you were lvl 51. In other words, you don't need more exp to gain an AA at level 65 than you did at level 51.

The reason you generally wait till the higher levels to do AA exp is because at the higher levels you can kill tougher creatures which are worth more exp than you could have killed at low 50's. Blues in general are a lot easier to kill at lvl 60-65 than they are at low 50's(part of the reason is they also made more lower level creature blue once you hit 61).

From 40-50, you didn't actually gain any real skills to speak of because you hit your caps. Once you hit 51 your caps raise and you start learning your skills to higher levels again, and some classes get new more powerful spells. That's another reason AA exp is easier at the higher levels. You're simple more effective.

If you'd like to see exactly how fast AA exp is to regular exp, set the slider to 50% AA exp soon as you hit lvl 51. I think you'll see you'll earn about 3 AAs by the time you hit lvl 52(assuming no deaths which will make you lose regular exp). I personally don't recommend doing this as you should at least get a "safety bubble(orange)" before messing around so you don't de-ding.

Edited, Sun Mar 21 10:15:53 2004 by KerikDaven

Actually, it is. When my rogue was 51 I decided to run a little experiment and see for myself. I kept her AA at 50 for half a level. With no deaths, she was at exactly 50% AA and 50% experience.

The higher your level, the more trivial that experience is to get, but it truly is like leveling through 51 for every AA.

nope, sorry. you get access to planar zones (PoP first tier planes, tranqulity, and hate, fear, growth, mischief) at 46. A 46 will do absolutley FINE in PoJustice. Before you go in though, do make sure to get enough xp for one death, just to be on the safe side. The great thing is that Justice has very few aggros, so you will not die more than once on a cr. Waiting till 51 to go to justice would be a total waste -- that is when the experience slows down. The lowest person I have seen solo justice was a 47 mage. I have seen (heck, been in) full groups of 46 that do fine though.

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Edited, Sun Mar 21 15:04:31 2004 by mkbailey

Hmm, okay, I DO know that AA exp is the same difficulty to get no matter how high of a level you are.

As far as it being easier than normal lvl 51 exp, I can only say this....

I was TOLD it was about 3 times easier to earn than normal exp at lvl 51. My Ranger was leveling in Jaggedpine Forest to hit lvl 51. Soon as I hit lvl 51, the regular exp slowed down a LOT. I mean it was barely moving fighting the same poachers that before I was seeing reasonable movement. Just for the sake of checking it out I switched to see if AA exp moved any faster. From what I saw it was definately moving faster, but not near the rate as exp was moving at lvl 50. I didn't stick with it too long as I wanted regular exp, not AA so I didn't really get too far with it. Maybe it was just the old "Jedi mind-trick" making it seem like it was faster because I was told it was and expected it to be......

Okay, I'll assume I was wrong based on the amount of feedback, but other than that I think the rest of my post about why people wait till higher levels to AA is still valid. I haven't really done much in the way of AAing yet because of all the advice to wait. I might however AA with my Enchanter at 59 to get everything set for Dire-Charm, I really want that pretty bad. hehe

Sorry for any mis-information, it certainly not my intent, I was really under the impression it worked that way, and seemed to from my little test. Guess I'm glad to have it straight now too then.

i have to disagree, well as far as druids go, (well going to the planes at 46 is a good idea) but as far as XP after 51, it is EASY (for a druid anyhow), go to Nadox, zone over from gunthak and take out the elements, you can also succor to the shrine from there, xp was never so fast - 51 to 54 in no time at all, and the zone is good up to 63