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#1 Mar 19 2004 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
OK, i am still kind of new around the edges as far as knowing the in and outs of the game. I just recently started on my tradeskills, Baking(170)Pottery(168), and fishing i decided would be number three on the list of skills. I can understand the basic point of fishing in real life. But i don't understand:
you cast your line... YOU DIDN"T Catch anything!!
you cast your line... YOU DIDN"T Catch anything!!
you cast your line... You caught a shoe!!
you cast your line... YOU DIDN"T Catch anything!!
you cast your line... You caught a fish scale!!

Why does this skill have to take soo long?
Is there a faster way of improving skill, so you can catch something besides shoes?
Why aren't there NETS, to catch 2 or 3 fish instead of 1?
My skill is Fishing (96) and why don't i catch the rarer fish yet?
Why do i have to complain all the time?

Any info would be great. I have already checked out EQtraderscorner.com , their fishing guide is not very good. ( it seems that you can make 5-6 gold pieces and hour according to guide, Wo0T!)Rather funny read.
#2 Mar 19 2004 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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My fishing is at 165 but that's only because in Abysmal Sea I was making 400pp an hour catching & selling crab and tuna to merchants (before they nerfed the prices). I don't know what the overall point to fishing is besides just the roleplay aspect of sitting on the dock fishing while you wait for a boat or mana to replenish or whatever. I'm sure the fish are used in baking or something, but I'm not a baker, so... You could save all the Fish Scales and sell them in the Bazaar to players that want them for the Enduring Breath spell or whatever else. Doubt you'll make much money that way, but it's a thought.

Edited, Fri Mar 19 11:04:17 2004 by Adorabelle
#3 Mar 19 2004 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Fishing was a great way to pass the time way back when you had to take a boat to go places. I shudder to think how people would react in today's EQ if they were to arrive at the docks in Butcherblock or Freeport and see the ship disappearing in the distance, knowing they had a ~30 min wait for the next one (assuming they couldn't get a druid or wiz to port/TL them). That was the time to equip your fishing pole, toss out a line, chat with the other people waiting on the dock with you, try not to spill your beer reeling in your line, and wait patiently for the shouts of "BOAT!!".

Now people fish mostly to catch those fish that are part of subcombines for other skills, whether they use the fish themselves or sell them to other tradeskillers via bazaar. And there are a few folks left that just fish for the sake of fishing, whether to try to max the skill, hang out and shoot the breeze with a buddy, or try to use up those stacks and stacks of grubs and bookworms that their forager has been hoarding.
#4 Mar 19 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually I don't see a difference between fishing in real life and fishing in EQ:

you cast your line... YOU DIDN"T Catch anything!!
you cast your line... YOU DIDN"T Catch anything!!
You spill your beer while bringing in your line!

Both are meant to be a relaxing way to pass time. Fishing in EQ is actually easier and more fun than in real life because you never need a license, and you never get busted for bringing in fish over your catch limit, or under the size limit. And the best part is you can raise your skill from 1 to 200 by only buying bait.. easily the cheapest skill to max by far. When you consider the effort that goes into acquiring components for other tradesskills combines in the 150+ skill range, fishing is actually one of the fastest to raise. Make an effort to get your int or wis as high as you can, you will get faster skillups in fishing or any skill.

If you are looking for more 'thrilling' places to fish, let me recommend Sebilis or Lower Guk. Dungeon fishing is highly underrated.
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Gwenyevar (or is it Yantis?) wrote:
I have already checked out EQtraderscorner.com
Fer crying out loud will you quit spamming this board with adverts for Yantis masquerading as queries.Smiley: mad

I don't give a rat's *** whether people buy plat, I just resent people hijacking discussion boards for unpaid commercials.

You wanna advertise plat sale sites here? - ask Alla (and see how far you get!)

Now go practice pulling trains in PC

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#6 Mar 19 2004 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Gwenyevar (or is it Yantis?) wrote:I have already checked out EQtraderscorner.com

Fer crying out loud will you quit spamming this board with adverts for Yantis masquerading as queries.

I don't give a rat's *** whether people buy plat, I just resent people hijacking discussion boards for unpaid commercials.

You wanna advertise plat sale sites here?


You know, a mild answer sometimes does turn away wrath. I think, just think, mind you, the Smiley: confusedperson postingSmiley: confused probably meant eqtraders.com/, Niami Denmother's *wonderful* and completely non-commercial site supported by PayPal donations-- it is known as EQ Trader's Corner, and has been for a long time.

Give us all a break. Smiley: eek
#7 Mar 19 2004 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
he is right i am sure she meant eqtraders

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a) i tried eqtraderscorner and there is no such site yantis or not

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Any info would be great. I have already checked out EQtraderscorner.com , their fishing guide is not very good. ( it seems that you can make 5-6 gold pieces and hour according to guide, Wo0T!)Rather funny read.



b) on the eqtraders website home page top left corner it say eqtraders corner and eqtraders does have a guide about fishing which talks about making 5 or 6 gold

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When I had a couple hours of fishing under my belt, and about 20 ranks in fishing, I made a profit of over 6 gold in half an hour. It's still a very slow way to make money, but it's relaxing and if you're truly a broke newbie, it's a great way to earn some money. When you're a spellcaster just learning how to meditate, it can be relaxing and profitable to plant yourself next to a safe body of water, spellcast your mana down to 0, and fish while meditating.
#8 Mar 19 2004 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Depends on where you're fishing, what you're fishing for and WHY.

As a smith, I have 2 choices. Pay for sea foams and seaweed, or fish for them.

Fishing isn't lucrative for a profiteer. But for a tradeskiller, it saves you money. And you can always pass the rusty daggers down to your Necro Toon :)
#9 Mar 20 2004 at 1:10 AM Rating: Default
I think i am done posting any questions on this sight. For somereason of late i have been getting beating around the head for either:

A: Beating a Dead Horse.

B: Advertizing for fictional websites.

I do appreciate the ppl taking what i have posted or asked , just as what it is. I do appreciate ppl answering questions of mine correctly and will most assuredly help them when they are in need. BUT (long pause).

I don't appreciate ppl who will read something and knowing the answere or not knowing the answer will make fun of or rain down insults. I don't understand ppl that get angry over a simple post. Remember this sight here is to help ppl with Everquest problems and forums are open discussion formats for those problems. If you don't like the post, (beating dead horse), It's a FREE country and you don't have to read it.

So for anyone that i have inadvertently offended, i am sorry. Don't have to worry, i won't post any more questions. BUT, will help in posts when i can, and choose to read and respond.
#10 Mar 20 2004 at 3:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't take all the criticism too personally, Gwenyever. If your genuine (not promoting) then keep doing what your doing. you have as much right to ask dumb questions as the rest of us ;)!People will get over it. At the end of the day, if people wanna cheat (wich is what it is), by buying Plat. and toons and stuff, they're only cheating themselves.
Don't take offense from "mr. I've been here so long, I've forgotten that I came here for fun". If we all took offense when people were rude about us, no-one would choose to be a Ranger...


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#11 Mar 20 2004 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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My fishing skill is 200 and I've yet to catch anything "rare" as the guides seem to hint one would. The only change I see is that it will allow one to catch the largest fish in a place that has a variety of fish sizes.

Why would one do it? Speaking for myself, there are a lot of new recipes that allow for baking skill ups with the new Abysmal Sea fish. I generally try to collect my own ingredients for tradeskills rather than buy them.
#12 Mar 20 2004 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Given time I'm sure Nobby will apologise for that unwarranted outburst. He seems a decent enough chap.

EQ Traders = EQ Traders Corner. Add it to your favourites and that is how it appears.

Probably the most comprehensive tradeskill site there is and as fiercely independent as Allakhazam.

There are some nice things that need the fishing tradeskill. One of the components for the Earing of the Solstice for example. Also one path for tailoring is Arctic Wyvern hides and they require a treatment using cod oil from Cobalt Cod. Guess how you get Cobalt Cod Smiley: smile

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#13 Mar 20 2004 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Never did figure out a real use for fishing, other than during boat waiting, being bored, and general messing around.

However, check the recipies at eqtraders, there are quite a few recipies to make stuff that can skill up your fishing as well.

http://www.eqtraders.com/recipes/recipe_page.php?article=38&rsa=Fishing&sb=trivial&menustr=080050000000

Not tested by myself, so don't know if the basic skilling up is faster/slower/the same, but it's something other than hitting a button and occasionally clicking your inventory box :)
#14 Mar 21 2004 at 12:27 AM Rating: Decent
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You can make some decent plat fishing in Gunthak unless it was nerfed recently. At a skill of 150ish I could net about 50pp an hour there selling to merchants. The 4 special catches sell for nearly a plat each.

That's pretty good money for a risk free occupation.
#15 Mar 21 2004 at 1:32 AM Rating: Good
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Personally, I don't feel that fishing skill does anything to improve your chances of catching anything rare. As a young ranger, I was invited to go to Cobalt Scar and fish up some specific fish, 100pp a fish. With a fishing skill of 0, I caught more fish than the druid that ported me, his fishing skill in the hundreds. Basically, they couldn't just have you fish and not attach a skill level to it. That would violate every fiber in SOEs' collective body.


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#16 Mar 22 2004 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
As one who actually does enjoy fishing and has spent many hours doing it in every zones I can get to by myself safely, I can offer a tad bit of info.

For one, the zone you are in determines what items you will actually catch, and a list exists here:
http://www.eqtraders.com/sources/source_zbt_page.php?st=Fished

Your fishing skill level has no bearing as best I can tell on what items are caught and in what frequency/order. I have not even noticed it having a bearing on how frequently you catch anything at all, more less a rare item.

You can get by from skill level 1 to 200 all just using regular bait and a fishing pole, you don't need fancy lures or the like unless you just want to spend money on them.

If you don't want to have to keep buying fishing poles you can complete the Fisherman's Companion quest (https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=16653). This item summons a fishing pole, and even better, the fishing pole summons Ale so you can practice your Alcohol Tolerance as well. It's poles have the same chance of breaking as any of your regular poles making this even better when you are in Chardok fishing or anywhere far from a fishing merchant. You will have to keep buying bait though; I keep my tackle box full at all times for when I have no group of raid going on.

And no, you can't really make any money at fishing. Best chance is getting a filet knife and selling the fishing bones needed for the Fisherman's Companion quest, as the two fish requires are PoV and PoN catches and pre-46 levels can't get there, plus who else wants to fish anyway.
#17 Mar 22 2004 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Your fishing skill level has no bearing as best I can tell on what items are caught and in what frequency/order. I have not even noticed it having a bearing on how frequently you catch anything at all, more less a rare item.
Actually that's not true. My husband's toon came out to fish in Abysmal with me when the vendors were paying generously for fish. My skill went from around 150 to 200 out there. His went from about 40 to near 200.

The smallest fish I ever caught was 4 lbs. The largest was 15 lbs. The smallest fish he caught was 1 lb, and the largest (while his skill was low) was about 12 or 13 lbs. When his skill got over 150 (if I remember correctly) he stopped catching the 1, 2 and 3 pound fish and caught the occasional 15 pounder.

Silly me thought once my skill was maxxed I'd stop catching rusty daggers and tattered sandals. Not so.

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you don't need fancy lures or the like unless you just want to spend money on them.
Making fishing lures is the other way to get fishing skill ups.

I tried it and the only advantage I saw was that the player made lures have fishing skill modifiers (max 4% I think). While I agree it's easier to skill up just fishing, I just wanted to add that there is an actual reason for making fishing lures.
#18 Mar 22 2004 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
Right, you can use lures to increase your skill up, I was just meaning that generically you can get to 200 without doing anything else but fishing with regular bait and poles.

In my experience one zone/fish never gave me a higher rate of skill ups versus any other, but that may be me. There were many times where I could easily go up 5 points or more with under 100 fishing attempts and others were a whole 100 attempts didn't give me even 1 point, and that behavior was common to any zone I was in, as most zones I fished multiple 100 attempts worth.

But I can't say I know for sure, that was just my experience.
#19 Mar 23 2004 at 2:21 AM Rating: Decent
I believe that the fishing skill works like forage, in that you still get the same number of common versus rare items, but a higher skill means you get something more often. For example, at a foraging skill of 200, I successfully forage something every single time.
Also, a higher fishing skill makes you les likely to break your pole or lose your bait. The main reason I fish is because I'm **** and want to max all skills at my disposal, but I have found some uses for it.
As others have mentioned, alot of high-end recipes use fished components, and one of those, , has proven to be one of the in-game accomplishments I am the most proud of, as well as the only dependable way I (a ranger)can develop my throwing weapon skill.
#20 Mar 23 2004 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for that link Destryp, I am working on my Fletching also and do want to max all my stats as well, so that item will come in handy, as my Throwing is in the toilet right now.
#21 Mar 27 2004 at 4:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Cobra wrote:
Given time I'm sure Nobby will apologise for that unwarranted outburst. He seems a decent enough chap.
This was about the 4th post that day from the same person, each of which threw a link to a different back-door Yantis site. Some coincidence! Smiley: oyvey

Thanks for the 'decent chap' comment - I try to be. I've only ever felt tempted to flame a couple of times - never about peoples' opinions (we all have em) but when people are blatantly misusing the forum.

Oh - apart from when it's open season on Leiany (Still luv ya!) Smiley: wink
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#22 Mar 27 2004 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
i have to say it did seem like stupidness from ael to start with, but actually becomes clear that gwenyevar is a yantis agent, go to the site that gwen mentioned and you can see it all

Edited, Sat Mar 27 06:39:50 2004 by Dracoid
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