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Jewelcrafting - Is it worth itFollow

#1 Mar 17 2004 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Morning everyone,

I have been hard at work mastering the trade of Jewelcrafting (skill 119 atm). I have also been trying to sell my creations in the bazaar for a few more platinum pieces then a merchant will give me. Needless to say my wares (all magical versions) just don't seem to sell. I have made a bunch of Golden Cats eye bracelets, and various other golden items with little or no interest from the general public.

I need a hint as to whether to continue this frivalous skill or maybe some direction as to what items sell better then others. My puny supply of platinum is getting quite small and I would like to see a profit on my time and effort.

what I really want is a to be able to stop farming shadeling silks!!!!!!!!

Thanks as always in advance.

Lurff
Level 33 enchanter
Bristlebane
#2 Mar 17 2004 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
well i have it a 179, and if i tried i could make a profit, but this means making up the 6-7k ive spent on getting it this high which could take a while, its kool to have, and with about a weeks work gettin money back i could prolly make all the money back, but i dont have the time
#3 Mar 17 2004 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent

People aren't typically interested in golden versions of anything anymore. The velium ones (assuming they fit the same slot) will give better stats. Your best bet is to work on something that is just a bit higher than your skill level, so you still get skill ups, yet have a good success rate. You can resell the items back to the vendor for about what they cost. Don't bother enchanting the metals, unenchanted ones sell back for the same price. Watch the total prices too. When gems become espensive, it's better (cheaper) to switch to the next metal and the easiest gem rather than continue with the current metal and an expensive gem. Be sure to get your WIS or INT as high as you possibly can, because that will help your skill up rate. Also get a geerlok, because that adds 5% to your skill when checking for succes.

You likely will not be able to make much money untl you get much closer to 200. Here's a link to a jewel crafting site that I think is pretty useful. Also check the tradeskill area here and on www.eqtraders.com
#4 Mar 17 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the info!

However - enchanted bars and gems, when successfully combined, do see back to merchants at a giher price! This has been confirmed numerous times by me in the last few days.

I will just bite the bullet and continues to farm silks and sell in the bazaar to fund my addiction!

Platinum bars run about 101 pp oer bar and then a gem of any quality runs between 12-100 plat. So I am looking at 113-200 plat per attempt for platinum jewelry(x2 for velium). My money making ability and skill level just aren't high enough for these combinations yet - but I will keep trying.

#5 Mar 17 2004 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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My perception is that people have very little interest in general stat stuff other than the best (velium or platinum). However in the area of WIS and INT low level characters are much more likely to hand over the plat for a silver ruby veil or gold WIS earring.
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#6 Mar 17 2004 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I have found the same thing as you, my daughter's main (clc) is at 127 JC and gold items just don't seem to sell. While enchanted silver items can be sold to low level characters (who are happy to get item with stats) for a profit, I have not found much of a market at the current level - I have been using the gold items as trade for LDON loot in groups that I want like research items or to give to players in return for bufs like temp. I think that the wide range of items available in the bazzar really hurts JC until you get closer to the great items around 250.

We still plug along at JC since we can use some of the items for upgrades for alts on the 2 accounts, but I think that making a profit is a long ways off - besides, I can make a lot more hunting HGs in Rathe than I could sitting in the bazzar.
#7 Mar 17 2004 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Speaking as a GM jeweler, yes it is worth it. it isn't the cheapest to level but it no where near the price that Smithing or Tailoring.

the only Gold jewelry that sells is:

Pale Nifilite<spelling> Earrings.
Polished Quartz rings
Star Ruby rings
Black sapphire Earrings

but don't dispair i make 10-15k per week if i put my mind to it from jewelry at GM level.

As for a leveling is conserned you need to keep following the gem curve with each metal untill you reach Sapphire then switch to the next metal/malacite and if your serious about leveling any tradeskill buy the appropriate Geerlok <gemsetter in this case>

I sold 99% of the things i made back to the vendor when leveling and never enchanted the metal unless i was going to sell in bazaar.
#8 Mar 17 2004 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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Where can i buy the geerlock for Jewelcrafting (bazaar?) and how much must I save up for?

Thanks again

Fordd
#9 Mar 17 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Aye geerlok Gemsetter can be bought at your nearest bazaar should be about 50-200pp or if your on druzzil Ro send me a tell <send to Allseeingeye if that toon is on> and i'll give you mine since i have the GM trophy.

Edited, Wed Mar 17 13:22:14 2004 by tarv
#10 Mar 17 2004 at 2:09 PM Rating: Default
On Morden Rask I still make a decent 10P a day profit on (enchanted) junk like Jaded Silver Rings, Silver Amber Rings, Silver Topaz Necklaces and even Silver Bloodstone Earrings :))

Edited, Wed Mar 17 14:11:01 2004 by Leiany
#11 Mar 18 2004 at 4:36 AM Rating: Default
in most cases with all trade skills the only real cash can be made at 200 - 250 level, most of the stuff below wont make ya much cash.
#12 Mar 18 2004 at 7:03 AM Rating: Default
Sorry but I have to completely disagree about that "moneymaking only after 200" as it depends on your level how much money you need and therefore how much you have to make.

I got 3 Toons who are mediocre tradeskillers:
1 Hallas smith (115) doing large banded armor and Northman Kite Shields
1 Freeport smith (115) doing regular banded armor and Seafarers Buckler Shields
1 Felwhite jeweler(64) and tailor (56) doing minor enchanted silver jewelery, leather padding, shade silk armor and Bundle of Gnoll Fur.
Alltogether their stuff yields about an easy 2000p per week which is more than enough to feed my main 23rd toon and her two 11th lvl sisters with all the nice stuff they cant craft themselves by now ;-)

Edited, Thu Mar 18 07:02:55 2004 by Leiany
#13 Mar 18 2004 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Leiany dear we are talking about normal blue servers, MR is still very young and in 12 months time you wouldn't be able to make a profit from the stuff your talking about.

On a normal older server the only real <i.e 20k + > money to be made is from Tier 3 and above drops, not all but most. I know you are going to say i don't need that sort of money but if i want to upgrade a slot thats what it is going to cost me.
#14 Mar 18 2004 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
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I spent 1900pp getting my skill to 165 and haven't had an easy time getting people to buy my wondrous creations. In all fairness to the trade though, I haven't tried too hard to find people to take jewelry orders from, so that doesn't mean a motivated individual couldn't make a bundle of money from this tradeskill.
#15 Mar 18 2004 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I usually try to make jewelry from the latest expansion. When ldon came out quartz and geode was hot, with god nihilite. But this only lasts for a month and then all the JC ers are doing it and the prices plummet. The only real use that I have found in jewelcrafting is making resist jewelry for the guild. But it is not a totally worthless skill.

You do get a 100% wr bag and a trophy which has very good stats. So even if you don't plan on mking a living on your skill it is still a beneficial goal. I have used the ability to summon bags in ldon many times as a main looter. Unless you are a enchanter you prolly don't want to pop combines. They have a relatively high failure rate which enchanters can offset via aa abilities but other classes cannot. A failed pop combine can be a nightmare financially.
#16 Mar 19 2004 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Morning everyone,

Didn't get a chance to play for long last night. But I did manage to get JC from 135 to 145.

Enchanting the gold bars and then combining a jewel with it generates more cash when you sell back to the vendor.

For example:

Regular gold bar + Malachite = 9 plat, 7 gold, 4 copper

Enchanted gold bar + Malachite = 11 plat 1 gold 8 copper

I think you may actually make a tiny profit (only @ 100% success rate).

Also Geerlok Gem setter rules and helps out a bunch. It cost me 200 plat though.

Forrd
Level 33 Enchanter
Bristlebane



Edited, Fri Mar 19 08:47:45 2004 by bubspeed
#17 Mar 19 2004 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks Tarv,

I went to bazzar after seeing your post and got the geerlok gemsetter (only 129 pp) and noticed a significant decrease in my JC failures. Got my JC upto 139 and recouped a good amount of the cost reselling to vendors, so well worth the investment.
#18 Mar 19 2004 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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If you play it right Rick all combines you do from now on with 1 exception <Plat malacite> will be effectively trivial when you use the Geerlok, you still get the Skill ups since that works on unadjusted skill but the combine takes it on the modded skill so you will only have a 5% failure rate.

Remember to switch at Sapphire though it's not worth going past there.
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