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#1 Mar 11 2004 at 10:13 AM Rating: Default
I came across one (possibly)very profitable legal exploit while toying with the idea of a ranger. As I am to much fun-gamer to invest time into the set up (and too greedy for spending 26 RL bucks on this)I can't try it out.

I am sure that posting a possible exploit (as legal as it may be) on this board is unwanted but HOW THE HELL will I ever know if it would have worked - or if it's been done all the time already...

/sighs, cleary dissapointed
#2 Mar 11 2004 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Exploit, by definition, is illegal. $26 setup? As in 2 months with a secondary account? This is rather useless unless you provide more info. If not, why bother bringing it up?
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#3 Mar 11 2004 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL, yeah, sorry Leiany, but if you aren't gonna actually put any info, this is really a waste of space. :P
#4 Mar 11 2004 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
OK then - as there where no warnings:

Will it work to 3-box 3 Rangers PLd to 20th lvl, have them LDoN and doing nothing than 90 min of social-macro forage for Goblin Granite and other LDoN-armor stuff (depending on Zone) in the starting chamber?

Will that yield a fair amount of plat selling the stuff later on in the Bazaar?

But maybe its already done serverwide ;-)
#5 Mar 11 2004 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I havent managed to forage more than 8 of any decent selling items per LDoN...mostly its roots, water and crap...that's with forage mastered...add that to the fact that if all you're looking to do is make gymp plat <even the good stuff on a rare day doesnt sell for that much> you'd do better to farm hill giants in rathe or gems in gunthak rather than hang around in the bazaar waiting for someone to buy your one stack of gargoyle granite.

The plat sellers wouldnt bother with lower level crap like gargoyle granite farming most likely, if you're meaning one single person to do so for personal profit...that'd be pretty pathetic to spend hours and hours on 3 rangers to forage up just enough granite to buy nothing impressive and have no fun gametime to show for it.





Edited, Thu Mar 11 20:39:17 2004 by plick
#6 Mar 11 2004 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
Leiany wrote:
As I am to much fun-gamer to invest time into the set up (and too greedy for spending 26 RL bucks on this)I can't try it out.
Glad I wrote this....

...and thx for giving me the feeling back I am NO fool to buy GG for 17p at a vendor whenever i find some as its obviously impossible to "farm" this stuff :)
#7 Mar 11 2004 at 9:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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Actually I'm not so sure it's worthless. A lot of the forageables are useful for smithing and JC skill ups. /shrug

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#8 Mar 11 2004 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
I know of a number of people who keep a ranger or druid permanently parked in certain planes to do nothing but forage specialty items.

They've been doing this for years, or at least since Xanthe's Earring quest became public knowlege.
#9 Mar 11 2004 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I still sell any forageables that I'm not using for skill-ups...50p for pushing a button is still 50p. But as far as making a handful of foragers that sit in an LDoN foraging until the timer kicks them out...I just don't see that the money would be worth the time for plat selling exploiters or people just looking for money there are faster ways to make more money that don't require hopeing someone in the bazaar buys your stuff.
#10 Mar 11 2004 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
Leiany wrote:
OK then - as there where no warnings:

Will it work to 3-box 3 Rangers PLd to 20th lvl, have them LDoN and doing nothing than 90 min of social-macro forage for Goblin Granite and other LDoN-armor stuff (depending on Zone) in the starting chamber?

Will that yield a fair amount of plat selling the stuff later on in the Bazaar?

But maybe its already done serverwide ;-)


for starters thats not an exploit, thats just playing the game, nothing wrong with that at all, but for it to be worthwhile you would waist hours upon hours were you could be leveling.
#11 Mar 12 2004 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I concur.

Legal, but rather pointless. Unless you desperately need the stuff and no one else is selling it.
#12 Mar 12 2004 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Nope not a exploit but it is a bad idea. There are alot of forgaes in EQ that sell for large amounts of plat and they don't reuire you to have 3 accounts either. Planar oak for example.
#13 Mar 12 2004 at 12:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't call it an exploit by any means, and I can't see there being a "fix" to it. If you want to do it, then by all means do it. The question is, is it worth the time and effort to YOU. For me it isn't because I make a lot more money than that a lot faster, but most people aren't me and I hear everyone complaining about being broke, so even THEY might feel it's worth it.

Heck, make it a social thing and have 3 Rangers of your own and invite friends who want to do the same thing to do it. :) This way you can talk to people for the 2 hours. hehe (90 minute mission time and the 30 minute you have after to leave)

Edited, Fri Mar 12 00:11:31 2004 by KerikDaven
#14 Mar 12 2004 at 3:16 AM Rating: Good
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As a master forager, I can tell that the number of gargole granites or worthwhile forages in LDoN are small enough to the point that it's almost a waist of time to sit there and fail LDoN's. All that time you could've been farming spiderling silks, or camping goblins in BBM for cash, both of which are much more profitable even at low levels.

Besides, if you're going to spend RL money just to get some plat, buy it from those plat farmers online. It may kill the EQ economy, but it's plain easier.
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#15 Mar 12 2004 at 4:02 AM Rating: Default
No buying something for RL on my side *lol* - I just will invest in a 100% WR bag as soon as I check a bargain in the Bazaar to be able to buy (and carry!) the foraged comps for LDoN armor everytime I came across a vendor who got some =)

I have to admit that hunting/foraging/searching/whatever for blacksmithing components is part of the fun in my opinion - I skilled up tailoring on mandrake roots in SH with another toon and it was just boring....
#16 Mar 12 2004 at 6:46 AM Rating: Decent
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May I suggest a much simpler solution. One which doesn't require the 2 other accounts.

Just get 2 other people to group with your forager. Once you have the adventure they can leave and do something else and you can forage alone for 120 mins. All it takes is maybe 5 mins of their time to group up while you get the adventure. After that as far as I am aware the system is very tolerant of people being outside or even leaving. You might need to get inside before they actually leave the adventure.

However as a way of spending a limited resource of playing time it is pretty miserable. Your foraging chances are just as good if you actually DO the adventure with a group and just forage continuously. Then when it is over you can always stay in foraging until the next adventure is given.

My experience is that more drops than can be foraged and that most groups have no idea of the bazaar value and will sell to you at whatever the vendor offers them if you ask. We made serious money (for level 30's) from Goblin bones while getting levels and having fun.
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#17 Mar 12 2004 at 7:04 AM Rating: Default
I don't have a forager....
#18 Mar 12 2004 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
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But you were asking about the foraging.

Ok so instead of buying 2 more accounts and having 3 characters of your own (very hard to 3-box on 1 PC btw), just make another character on your one account. Getting to 20 does not require PL or anything and it might just give you an idea of what you are talking about (although I appreciate this would be against your principles).
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#19 Mar 12 2004 at 7:24 AM Rating: Default
Leiany wrote:
I came across one (possibly)very profitable legal exploit while toying with the idea of a ranger. As I am too much fun-gamer to invest time into the set up (and too greedy for spending 26 RL bucks on this)I can't try it out.

read it from my virtual lips :*
#20 Mar 12 2004 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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I know what your were talking about Lei... the way it's put here, it's not an exploit, but what you had read or heard about somewhere else is something different. There's always been talk in the ranger community about "AFK foraging". You set up your game pad's "auto" or "turbo" feature to hit forage for you while you go do something else. That is not allowed according to Sony. If you go to www.eqrangers.com and do a search in their forums, you'll see this topic discussed over and over. People have done it and not gotten caught, but I personally wouldn't bother.

Edited, Fri Mar 12 17:31:33 2004 by Jiggidyjay
#21 Mar 13 2004 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I have a question about foraging and the answer might even be important to anyone thinking of starting a toon just to go forage in adventures.

Other than "just mash the forage button every time it refreshes", are there are "tricks of the trade" for getting forage to skill up? It seems to me there are some zones with items that can only be foraged with skill higher than "X". Is there a "forage value" for each zone that compares to your skill in foraging so that say a newbie zone "trivials" on foraging on you and you can never get a skill up while foraging there after a certain skill level.....whereas another zone might have a higher "forage value" and thus allow you skill up potential. Does that make any sense? Are some zones more likely to have skill up potential than others? Other than tables listing what items can be foraged where, I don't recall seeing anything that really covers this.

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#22 Mar 13 2004 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Other than "just mash the forage button every time it refreshes", are there are "tricks of the trade" for getting forage to skill up?


Make a forage macro and attach it to one of your movement keys.

I.e.

/doability 1 (where 1 is forage)
/pause 2
/autoinventory

Then in options->keyboard->macros set the macro to the same key as forward movement.

Edited, Sat Mar 13 10:32:36 2004 by Oldunson
#23 Mar 13 2004 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there a "forage value" for each zone that compares to your skill in foraging so that say a newbie zone


No.
Or possibly "Not any more"

It is perfectly possible to get skillups in foraging anywhere. It is also possible to forage "difficult" things at low skill levels. I forgot to train foraging on my ranger so when the time came to get those things for the epic I had a skill of 10 or so. I did link it to a movement key and start getting the skill up but I was picking up epic forages from the start.

I do believe that at one time it was impossible to forage these things with skill below a certain level.
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#24 Mar 14 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Good
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Cobra is right. There isn't a "minimum" forage level to get those special forages. My woodelf ranger was foraging epic pieces at lvl 10. What I have notice though, and this may just be my imagination, is that at 200 forage skill, he seems to get "special" forages much more often. The downside to this is you get less food and water, and I never shop for food and water with him because that's why I have forage! You'll notice that in more zones then not, the special forages are nothing more then a nuisance and you'll start to get angry that you're not getting your beloved food and water. Like I said though, this may just be my imagination.
#25 Mar 16 2004 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
Once upon a time there was a bug that allowed you to forage 'high end loot' if I remember SoE's wording. It might even have been Verant at the time. Anyway... off topic but just out of interest does anyone remember what those items were ?
It was long long ago and I think they even raided chars to recover the items.
Just wondering.
#26 Mar 16 2004 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
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The funniest thing in the world is to hear level 3 rangers running around GFay going "I just foraged a Ripened Heartfruit - what's this for?" I think that's about when I got my RH as well :)
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