Just my two cents as a soloing Mage. My Mage was born on Jan 31 this year. I had about 4 months experience playing EQ a couple years ago, so I was basically a noob 6 weeks ago.
In that time, I have solo'd myself to 55. I haven't tried killing reds since the teens, and I don't really see how it can be effective at high levels. I would have to think that any class that takes melee damage is out, the hits just come to fast and too hard to make it effective. Sure you might take that red down but if you end up with 1% health, 5000hp can take a while to regen :)
I was starting to struggle in my soloing about 10 days ago (around level 50) because mobs started hitting too hard and I wasn't able to keep up with my heals. I started surfing the web and learned how to "Chain Pet". Simply brilliant. In essence (and yes I know this is old hat to most of you), you summon a pet, DS it, and send it end. When it nears death, start summoning another. Rinse and repeat til mob is almost dead. If you choose wimpy mobs that walk at low hp, you can use a clicky focus to reclaim and land a small nuke for full exp.
I've used this to solo in Dulak Harbor for the last 5 levels and I don't think I've ever dropped below 80% mana with nothing but the new mage pet canni spell.
So, for my money, Mages are good to solo. Maybe not the fastest or coolest, but they are very simple to solo and enjoyable at the same time.
*shrug*
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My bet is on the Necro :)
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My bet is a Paladin. Some people think that Paladins dont do enough damage, but my paladin has a Stone Bladed Axe (13Att, 26Delay, 5ac) At level 21 and still has yet to max out in the damage catgory. He is still Doing more and more damage each level. My point is, with the right equipment, a Paladin is probably the best soloing class (especially against undead).
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My bet is a Paladin.
/Boggle
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My point is, with the right equipment, a Paladin is probably the best soloing class
/double boggle
shesh man i play a pally and we have trouble soloing Dark blues. Could be why we are not considered a solo class.
Just saying.
Singdall wrote
"i have watched a level 60 SK solo in PoN, thats something i would not even tray as a 60th necro, yet my nec can out solo that same SK in other places."
Actually PoN is one of the easiest places to solo as a necromancer. I've deen soloing there on my necromancer since level 49.
"i have watched a level 60 SK solo in PoN, thats something i would not even tray as a 60th necro, yet my nec can out solo that same SK in other places."
Actually PoN is one of the easiest places to solo as a necromancer. I've deen soloing there on my necromancer since level 49.
Some of the comments here are a bit puzzeling.
No soloer (in his/her right mind) ever plans to take on a red con with close combat. Its just plain nuts.
Some classes have no choice as close combat/melee is their only real strength.
So if the question really is "what class could solo red cons in any given situation?" The answer is without doubt a class that can effectively fight a ranged battle. And as the question includes "any given situation" then you must consider confined spaces.
If there is not enough room to stay out of melee range, then I would maintain it is a mob that cannot be soloed by anyone. If though there is a enough room or the mob can be pulled to some open space, then the classes with the most powerful DoTs and snares/roots is always going to be the winner.
A Mage or Beastie can use their pets to emulate these tactics, to a point, but must be able to fast cast replacement pets and they are taking on more risk in the same situation.
A Druid, with the best LDoN dots, plus the AA enhancements to increase the DoT and mana regen efficiency will be the winner for sure. I haven't got time to do it atm, but if you add up all the DoTs a Druid could load on the mob, and compare that to the mana regen that is possible, you will see what I mean.
If it is a mob that is immune to root and there is not enough room to kite it, then again I doubt that it is soloable.
PS.. Yes I am talking about the "top end" of the game here, because that is where it is most dificult. But at lower levels in non kiting situations a well equipped Druid can root and rot anything that a Necro, Mage or BL can take down and plenty that they cannot.
Please note... no one said anything about "most effeicient, or the fastest"!
Edited, Sun Mar 21 19:05:21 2004 by Iluien
No soloer (in his/her right mind) ever plans to take on a red con with close combat. Its just plain nuts.
Some classes have no choice as close combat/melee is their only real strength.
So if the question really is "what class could solo red cons in any given situation?" The answer is without doubt a class that can effectively fight a ranged battle. And as the question includes "any given situation" then you must consider confined spaces.
If there is not enough room to stay out of melee range, then I would maintain it is a mob that cannot be soloed by anyone. If though there is a enough room or the mob can be pulled to some open space, then the classes with the most powerful DoTs and snares/roots is always going to be the winner.
A Mage or Beastie can use their pets to emulate these tactics, to a point, but must be able to fast cast replacement pets and they are taking on more risk in the same situation.
A Druid, with the best LDoN dots, plus the AA enhancements to increase the DoT and mana regen efficiency will be the winner for sure. I haven't got time to do it atm, but if you add up all the DoTs a Druid could load on the mob, and compare that to the mana regen that is possible, you will see what I mean.
If it is a mob that is immune to root and there is not enough room to kite it, then again I doubt that it is soloable.
PS.. Yes I am talking about the "top end" of the game here, because that is where it is most dificult. But at lower levels in non kiting situations a well equipped Druid can root and rot anything that a Necro, Mage or BL can take down and plenty that they cannot.
Please note... no one said anything about "most effeicient, or the fastest"!
Edited, Sun Mar 21 19:05:21 2004 by Iluien
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Good Luck :)
Still a noob. :-P
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Why is there so little talk about Necroes? I made my necro in 2000 then took a couple years off, in the last few months i got him to 53. Against undeadies I dont think there is a better class solo, against all others..... I dont know I have seen some bards pull stuff thats just not right. hehe
I duo with a druid friend of mine and although he has quadding ability and such 1 on 1 the necro is a far superior soloer. By building up enough aggro with my DoTs i can drop my pet on something and just run around forever, the mob will never aggro the pet if you do it right.
just my 2cp
<Short Norrathians Union>
Hissah 53 Necro Bristlebane
Oreman 52 Cleric Bristlebane
I duo with a druid friend of mine and although he has quadding ability and such 1 on 1 the necro is a far superior soloer. By building up enough aggro with my DoTs i can drop my pet on something and just run around forever, the mob will never aggro the pet if you do it right.
just my 2cp
<Short Norrathians Union>
Hissah 53 Necro Bristlebane
Oreman 52 Cleric Bristlebane
sigh, not sure why im answering to this dead horse but:
necros, mages, beasts, shammies (pet classes) all solo well cause they got a tank to take the dmg while they do the killing. necros and mages rely on outright dps to kill the mob. shammies and beastlords use slow to take away the brunt of the damage.
druids can solo most mobs that dont summon and can be snared/rooted as long as said mob doesnt have high resists - my main is a druid and i enjoy soloing and am quite good at it.
chanters and bards are good at soloing becuase of thier ability to charm mobs to help em kill - chanters can solo VERY well in lots of places as long as they have the room to recharm. bards are very versatile and can solo in lots of different situations
wizards are fairly good at soloing too due to thier insane dmg output.
i suppose rangers should have a place in here too but they are more relient on gear, lvls and aa's then the classes above
no pure melee in any situation can solo as well as any of the above with silmilar gear/aa's etc becuase they have no way to avoid getting dmg of mobs that have more hp and can outdamage them.
there is NO class that is BEST at soloing in ALL situations. all of the mentioned classes are the best in SOME situations.
necros, mages, beasts, shammies (pet classes) all solo well cause they got a tank to take the dmg while they do the killing. necros and mages rely on outright dps to kill the mob. shammies and beastlords use slow to take away the brunt of the damage.
druids can solo most mobs that dont summon and can be snared/rooted as long as said mob doesnt have high resists - my main is a druid and i enjoy soloing and am quite good at it.
chanters and bards are good at soloing becuase of thier ability to charm mobs to help em kill - chanters can solo VERY well in lots of places as long as they have the room to recharm. bards are very versatile and can solo in lots of different situations
wizards are fairly good at soloing too due to thier insane dmg output.
i suppose rangers should have a place in here too but they are more relient on gear, lvls and aa's then the classes above
no pure melee in any situation can solo as well as any of the above with silmilar gear/aa's etc becuase they have no way to avoid getting dmg of mobs that have more hp and can outdamage them.
there is NO class that is BEST at soloing in ALL situations. all of the mentioned classes are the best in SOME situations.
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in response to the person higher up who said that wood elf druids get hide, halflings do too... im a 65 halfer druid and I have hide =p
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ok im going to start a flame it was said that a cleric cant solo anything but undead that is not true it is much hardser for a cleric to solo but it is not impossible i am a 59 cleric and i routinely solo in poj admittedly that is not as hard as alot of places but they for the most part arnt undead and do hit realatively hard.Simply put,put the time and effort in and most toons can solo high lvl mobs be it thru aquiring gear or technique.patience will pay off.btw i have 920 attk and 989ac so i am far from uber.
Depending on the situation many classes can solo quite well, but IMHO the best all around soloer is a Necro.
My vote goes for Bard, Shammie, then Necro in that order as the best soloers.
Bards can do some awesome things soloing by charming and kiting mobs.
Shammies are awesome at taking on high-level mobs one-on-one (can't say the same for my pally). I have a 51 shammie who is really coming into his own at soloing.
Necros are excellent soloers as well, but are not great with adds. Where my shammie can root and burn or melee a mob, a necro dies fast when a mobs starts beating on them. Fun class to play though!
Bards can do some awesome things soloing by charming and kiting mobs.
Shammies are awesome at taking on high-level mobs one-on-one (can't say the same for my pally). I have a 51 shammie who is really coming into his own at soloing.
Necros are excellent soloers as well, but are not great with adds. Where my shammie can root and burn or melee a mob, a necro dies fast when a mobs starts beating on them. Fun class to play though!
YendarBrin wrote:
I've read all the posts and debates on the "best" soloing classes. My question is which class, in any given situation, would be the best at taking on red mobs one on one? In other words if the char ended the fight with 1% health it wouldnt matter. Just who can take down the toughest mobs.
For one single mob, enchanter. Charm a mob, haste your pet, send it in against the target, tash/slow the target, throw a DoT on the target to ensure you get max exp, root the mob, sit WAAAY back and let your pet beat the snot out of the target.
Edited, Tue Mar 23 14:58:35 2004 by danreynolds
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well over looking the many possible meanings of best. I'll save this. A bard can fight indefinately, but not neccessarily effectively all the time. A shaman can kill faster, but without uber equipment or outside buffs, will have down time.
Examples:
A L50 shaman equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till he has to stop to buff with kei, but has to med without it. Takes less then a minute per kill.
A L50 bard equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till his hands cramp up and he can't push the buttons anymore no kei required. Takes 2-3 minutes per kill.
All classes can solo, and have their good points, but say a bard or necro or shaman is the best period, well thats all a matter of what best means to you.
Examples:
A L50 shaman equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till he has to stop to buff with kei, but has to med without it. Takes less then a minute per kill.
A L50 bard equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till his hands cramp up and he can't push the buttons anymore no kei required. Takes 2-3 minutes per kill.
All classes can solo, and have their good points, but say a bard or necro or shaman is the best period, well thats all a matter of what best means to you.
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well over looking the many possible meanings of best. I'll save this. A bard can fight indefinately, but not neccessarily effectively all the time. A shaman can kill faster, but without uber equipment or outside buffs, will have down time.
Examples:
A L50 shaman equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till he has to stop to buff with kei, but has to med without it. Takes less then a minute per kill.
A L50 bard equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till his hands cramp up and he can't push the buttons anymore no kei required. Takes 2-3 minutes per kill.
All classes can solo, and have their good points, but say a bard or necro or shaman is the best period, well thats all a matter of what best means to you.
Examples:
A L50 shaman equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till he has to stop to buff with kei, but has to med without it. Takes less then a minute per kill.
A L50 bard equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till his hands cramp up and he can't push the buttons anymore no kei required. Takes 2-3 minutes per kill.
All classes can solo, and have their good points, but say a bard or necro or shaman is the best period, well thats all a matter of what best means to you.
just gonna through my 2cp in on this first as was said several times
soloable chars:
bard
chanter
druid
shamman
necromancer
mage
wiz
bst
sk
pal
now each of these are limited to where and what they can solo
ie. druids spells suck indoors screwed if can't root or snare
bards need room
chanters quite versatile but can't heal
pal are good againts undead but at higher levels have lots of probs soloing
sk same as pal mostly though lifetaps and weapon proc taps help them
wiz can't do much in small rooms and indoor zones and have no way besides gate to handle adds
bsts decent dps and slow minor dots, heals, nukes but hard for them to get to named without invis
shamans = good all around solo though have trouble with adds
necromancers = good solo can heal decent nuke lifeburn killer dots decent pet fd gate undead charm mez can agro kite fear kite root dot charm kite pet kite have trouble with living mob due to no slow for them can handle summon mobs but and rampage ones solo more room the better for kiting
all in all thing to remeber is that this is a group oriented game any class can solo with right gear place and time but all have problems and the really good loot is usually raid required ie elemental time GoD LDoN and such requires a grp atleast to do
my main is of course a necro so i am partial to them but have bard shaman druid sk zerker chanter war cleric rogue bst so have decent idea of powers of other classes bards necros shammans and enchanters are about the best classes for solo farming druids mages and wiz come close but are rather limited by zones
katrraisa faerieslayer
65 necromancer
tunare
soloable chars:
bard
chanter
druid
shamman
necromancer
mage
wiz
bst
sk
pal
now each of these are limited to where and what they can solo
ie. druids spells suck indoors screwed if can't root or snare
bards need room
chanters quite versatile but can't heal
pal are good againts undead but at higher levels have lots of probs soloing
sk same as pal mostly though lifetaps and weapon proc taps help them
wiz can't do much in small rooms and indoor zones and have no way besides gate to handle adds
bsts decent dps and slow minor dots, heals, nukes but hard for them to get to named without invis
shamans = good all around solo though have trouble with adds
necromancers = good solo can heal decent nuke lifeburn killer dots decent pet fd gate undead charm mez can agro kite fear kite root dot charm kite pet kite have trouble with living mob due to no slow for them can handle summon mobs but and rampage ones solo more room the better for kiting
all in all thing to remeber is that this is a group oriented game any class can solo with right gear place and time but all have problems and the really good loot is usually raid required ie elemental time GoD LDoN and such requires a grp atleast to do
my main is of course a necro so i am partial to them but have bard shaman druid sk zerker chanter war cleric rogue bst so have decent idea of powers of other classes bards necros shammans and enchanters are about the best classes for solo farming druids mages and wiz come close but are rather limited by zones
katrraisa faerieslayer
65 necromancer
tunare
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A L50 bard equiped with 25-35k in gear can chain HG till his hands cramp up and he can't push the buttons anymore no kei required. Takes 2-3 minutes per kill.
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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wiz can't do much in small rooms and indoor zones and have no way besides gate to handle adds
Um, Root?
Use it all the time as a CC device
Biltene Flaymestryke
57 Evoker
Brell
No doubt about it .... Necro.
If people read the original question that the class must solo 1 red con mob, ther are only 4-5 classes capable of doing it.
Mage: Chain pet. time consuming but since you would never have to worry about resists by the mob. <Main reason that other classes would fail.>
Bard:kite. or charm a equal level mob if posible to fight for him. again resists would matter as it is mana free.
Necro:Chain pet with dot's if they land, with the mana regen they would stand a good chance but necro spells are mana intencive.
Shaman:This class was soloing dragons back when level restrictions where 50, withpet, JBB and haste/Slow they are a walking killing machine.
the other classes that may have a chance is beastlord and Enchanter if they can get the pet turnover working or beasty Cheals could keep up.
Notice the on going theme avoiding contact with the mob and letting pets and or dots do the work.
Resists would kill Norraths primary soloing class, sorry druid but by the time your fourth spell was resisted you wold be a bloody mess at Mr red mobs feet.
Mage: Chain pet. time consuming but since you would never have to worry about resists by the mob. <Main reason that other classes would fail.>
Bard:kite. or charm a equal level mob if posible to fight for him. again resists would matter as it is mana free.
Necro:Chain pet with dot's if they land, with the mana regen they would stand a good chance but necro spells are mana intencive.
Shaman:This class was soloing dragons back when level restrictions where 50, withpet, JBB and haste/Slow they are a walking killing machine.
the other classes that may have a chance is beastlord and Enchanter if they can get the pet turnover working or beasty Cheals could keep up.
Notice the on going theme avoiding contact with the mob and letting pets and or dots do the work.
Resists would kill Norraths primary soloing class, sorry druid but by the time your fourth spell was resisted you wold be a bloody mess at Mr red mobs feet.
In reality people at level 65 it would be very difficult to solo any mob higher then you are. Most mobs summon, have high resissts, cast nasty spells, will wipe your pet ASAP. You just don't solo reds at high levels. You get raids together to take down 66+ mobs sometimes or at least a group or two of 65s.
YendarBrin wrote:
I've read all the posts and debates on the "best" soloing classes. My question is which class, in any given situation, would be the best at taking on red mobs one on one? In other words if the char ended the fight with 1% health it wouldnt matter. Just who can take down the toughest mobs.
I know this would depend on a million factors, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I know this would depend on a million factors, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Hmmm...no mention anywhere about the character being level 65. I think most people assumed that the question was geared more towards the mid levels since obviously the chances of soloing a 68+ mob is slim and none(with slim running for it's life
). Remember, there are SIXTY FOUR other levels before you get to 65, and all of them are just as valid as the last one.
Edited, Sat Apr 24 14:34:15 2004 by danreynolds
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Bard by far is the best soloer. I've soloed some of the weaker dragons with my bard.
Beastlord by far from 1-65 and beyond.
I've solo'd some the the harder dragons with my beastlord. :P
I've solo'd some the the harder dragons with my beastlord. :P
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